Should Colts tag Vinitari

[Bert Johns]

I think now that Vinitari has said he will play in 2018 the colts should tag him and give him the money he deserves after the screwing he got at the end of last season going for 50 plus yards field goals in buffalo in the snow/blizzard that took a $500,000 bonus from him. He has been the constinent pro and he should retire a colt.

[lance_m8]

give him a 2 year deal no need to waste the tag

[jbaron04]

This a business bro, I think he has some left in the tank give him another yr,  same type of deal

[DonnieDarko1023]

Definitely not

[crazycolt1]

 Adam has been kicking long field goals in snow his whole career. There are lots of players who don't earn/get their bonuses paid to them because that's just the way it goes.

 

[ricker182]

I'm sure if he wants to play a few more seasons he'll stick around at an average price.  

  

No need to waste a tag on him.

[fatboy]

I doubt any teams are going to be beating down the door of a 45 year old kicker and offering huge dollars, with is what a tag insures.  I’d think Colts want him and he’d be happy to return.  Ought to be easy.

[fatboy]

Just now, fatboy said:

I doubt any teams are going to be beating down the door of a 45 year old kicker and offering huge dollars, which is what a tag insures.  I’d think Colts want him and he’d be happy to return.  Ought to be easy.

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Resign but not FT

[Superman]

I've been thinking about this the past couple days, coincidentally. I wouldn't tag him. I'd offer him a very respectful deal and try to convince him to stay, but if he wants to leave for whatever reason, I'd let him. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

I've been thinking about this the past couple days, coincidentally. I wouldn't tag him. I'd offer him a very respectful deal and try to convince him to stay, but if he wants to leave for whatever reason, I'd let him. 

I agree. That is how I would play it as well. I would hate to lose him though. He is money.

[Smonroe]

Ballard made it pretty clear that they’re not going to overpay for free agents.  He was talking about middle of the pack guys, and Adam certainly isn’t that.  But he’s also not the best K in the league.  

 

But I think it’s safe to say he’s going to pay what a reliable FG kicker is worth.  It’s up to Adam if he’ll be satisfied with that.  

[crazycolt1]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I agree. That is how I would play it as well. I would hate to lose him though. He is money.

Does Adam break George Blanda's record of playing till he is 48 years old?

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Ballard made it pretty clear that they’re not going to overpay for free agents.  He was talking about middle of the pack guys, and Adam certainly isn’t that.  But he’s also not the best K in the league.  

 

But I think it’s safe to say he’s going to pay what a reliable FG kicker is worth.  It’s up to Adam if he’ll be satisfied with that.  

Adam was only the 10th highest paid kicker in the league last season. That's pretty cheap for a legend.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Does Adam break George Blanda's record of playing till he is 48 years old?

He very well could. He looks stronger than ever and can still kick a 50 Yard FG with ease. I would offer him a decent 2 yr deal and see if he takes it.

[RomanianColtsFan]

Who’s Vinitari? OK JK

My answer is no, just another 2 year contract with an easy out after 1 year.

[esmort]

I wouldn't use the tag and don't think we would need to. If you offer him a fair deal I think he will stay. 

[crazycolt1]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He very well could. He looks stronger than ever and can still kick a 50 Yard FG with ease. I would offer him a decent 2 yr deal and see if he takes it.

I know Ballard will be doing the contracts but it wouldn't surprise me for Irsay to give him a suggestion.

[crazycolt1]

Just now, esmort said:

I wouldn't use the tag and don't think we would need to. If you offer him a fair deal I think he will stay. 

I tend to agree.

[NewColtsFan]

9 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I tend to agree.

 

I don't think there's any reason to tag Adam.    He had demonstrated that he's not looking to be the highest paid kicker... he's not squeezed us for every last dollar he could get.

 

So...   a 2-year deal...   a dining bonus of 2 milk and yearly salaries if 2 mill per.

 

A total of 6 million.   

 

I think his last last deal was 2 years and 5 million.    I don't want to overthink this or let the guy walk out the door over chump change...   

 

[ColtJ82]

He would be thrille

5 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I tend to agree.

Agreed. He doesn't want to go anywhere. IMO, he should fall somewhere in the 2 year, 3.5 per (fully guaranteed). Gives him the 6th highest average per year. Maybe I am way off base, but I think that could be agreeable to both sides. It's not like the Colts are tight on cap. 

[crazycolt1]

27 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He very well could. He looks stronger than ever and can still kick a 50 Yard FG with ease. I would offer him a decent 2 yr deal and see if he takes it.

Here is a bit of trivia on Blanda.

He was the very first player drafted in the first know fantasy football league known to exist.

It was in 1962 and was named The Greater Oakland Professional Pigskin Prognosticators League.

[PrincetonTiger]

4 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

He is a bit of trivia on Blanda.

He was the very first player drafted in the first know fantasy football league known to exist.

It was in 1962 and was named The Greater Oakland Professional Pigskin Prognosticators League.

IMO Blanda and AV do not compare since Blanda was a QB/K

 

 

     Great info

 

  AV compares to Morten Andersen

[southwest1]

No tag required. Automatic Adam likes INDY. Closing the deal shouldn't be all that difficult. 

 

If I were him, I'd gladly end my career here. I'm not a numbers guy. That's where Ballard & AV's agent chime in. 

[Dark Superman]

Don't need to use the tag on a guy who loves the organization. Wish his best buddy McAfee was still here though. I'm sure Vinny will gladly come back on a reasonable deal.

[crazycolt1]

15 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

IMO Blanda and AV do not compare since Blanda was a QB/K

 

 

     Great info

Yeah it's hard to imagine that Blanda played his first pro game in 1949 and retired in 1975. He was picked in the 12th round. There were only 10 NFL teams in 1949 so he was picked # 119th.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Yeah it's hard to imagine that Blanda played his first pro game in 1949 and retired in 1975. He was picked in the 12th round. There were only 10 NFL teams in 1949 so he was picked # 119th.

Good UK boy

 

  was a Bear Bryant QB

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Good UK boy

 

  was a Bear Bryant QB

Yeah, Chicago and New York had two pro teams in 1949. Chicago had the Bears and Cardinals and New York had the Giants and the Bulldogs.

[southwest1]

Off Topic: 

 

I always wonder why elite place kickers don't get theme songs? You know, like close out pitchers in baseball. 

 

Carry on...

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, southwest1 said:

Off Topic: 

 

I always wonder why elite place kickers don't get theme songs? You know, like close out pitchers in baseball. 

 

Carry on...

I remember me and my best friend made up one for Juan Marichal back in the day. It had the same tune as Louie Louie did. lol. Probably had some of the so called words in it too.

[gacoop1]

Too old, need someone that will help on special team especially tackling.

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, gacoop1 said:

Too old, need someone that will help on special team especially tackling.

Yep, we seen how that worked out for Pat McAfee didn't we.

[Superman]

32 minutes ago, gacoop1 said:

Too old, need someone that will help on special team especially tackling.

 

???

 

He doesn't play on any coverage units. Will he have to go tackle a ref after a PAT?

[our_dbs_rock]

Wasn't there a rule that stated a player could only be tagged so many times and if it was exceeded then their pay would be based off of top salaries not just positional salaries?  I seem to remember something like that involving him years back because the Pats had tagged him.  Is this still in the rules?

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/colts-insider/2014/02/26/it-would-be-too-costly-to-use-franchise-tag-on-veteran-placekicker/5846639/

[GoColts8818]

I would think if the Colts want to keep Adam they won’t have much of a problem getting a new deal done.

[Smonroe]

9 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Adam was only the 10th highest paid kicker in the league last season. That's pretty cheap for a legend.

 

And we have to assume that's what he'll be offered.  He's probably not going to get anything better from other teams.

[John Waylon]

He’s said he doesn’t like losing, and at his age and place I don’t blame him. So if he thinks we’re in for another rough season or two and he wants to go somewhere he thinks he has a better chance to compete I can’t blame him. He deserves to compete. If that’s the case, thank him for his service and give him that chance. Tagging him just wouldn’t be proper IMO. 

[GoColts8818]

 Doesn’t look like they will need too.

[gnet550]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

 Doesn’t look like they will need too.

I had been wondering about this...I will be more than pleased to have him another year. He is a legend, but he still has incredible consistency and seems to be getting stronger with age.

[lollygagger8]

No need to franchise. 

 

Pay him. He hasn't showed any sign of decline.