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1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

We've had several poor starts and poor finishes.

Oh yeah, obviously... That's the point, under Pagano's tutelage the team hasn't really been able to put together too many full games of football. I was just sort of joking around that he would 'emphasize' the first 5 mins. & last 5 mins. regardless if that is the angle he is using with the team. I would make sure that the message to fans is that the team plans to prepare for ENTIRE games...

 

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6 minutes ago, Buck Showalter said:

Oh yeah, obviously... That's the point, under Pagano's tutelage the team hasn't really been able to put together too many full games of football. I was just sort of joking around that he would 'emphasize' the first 5 mins. & last 5 mins. regardless if that is the angle he is using with the team. I would make sure that the message to fans is that the team plans to prepare for ENTIRE games...

 

Not trying to do the "what if" thing, but how I look at it is like this:

 

Detroit -- bad start, bad finish, lost by one score

Denver -- bad finish, lost by two scores, had a chance at the end

Jags -- bad start, bad finish, lost by one score

Texans -- bad, bad finish, lost by one score

 

Regardless of what's happening in the middle, if you fix the first and last five minutes, the Colts probably have a much better record. 

 

Now, because of what's going on in the middle, there's not a lot of confidence that they CAN fix the first and last five minutes, but that's a horse of a different color. 

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10 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Not trying to do the "what if" thing, but how I look at it is like this:

 

Detroit -- bad start, bad finish, lost by one score

Denver -- bad finish, lost by two scores, had a chance at the end

Jags -- bad start, bad finish, lost by one score

Texans -- bad, bad finish, lost by one score

 

Regardless of what's happening in the middle, if you fix the first and last five minutes, the Colts probably have a much better record. 

 

Now, because of what's going on in the middle, there's not a lot of confidence that they CAN fix the first and last five minutes, but that's a horse of a different color. 

I get this especially the Detroit & Texans losses..

& I hope the team does address these issues. The slow starts have been a significant issue now for awhile, & as you've pointed out the inability to finish out has cost the team a couple crucial games that would have had significant implications for the season. 

I just feel the overall message is a little late with the seeming state of disarray within the franchise as a whole. If I'm Pagano, I'd be ultra-conscious of what 'messages' get related to fans, that's all I was initially getting at...

But, you are absolutely correct, if the slow starts & poor finishes do in fact get corrected, or hadn't been an issue to begin with the team would find themselves in considerably different circumstances...

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1 hour ago, lollygagger8 said:

Only focus on 10 minutes of the game, Pagano.......brilliant. 

 

Leave Allen on the bench. Stop bringing back players too early!!!! 

 

Man this staff is something else. 

 

Yeah, that's exactly what he meant.  Dear god the levels some people will go through to criticize the staff. :groan:

 

3 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:

Why would the Colts hurry Allen back?  There really hasn't been a drop off with Doyle/Swoope.

 

Just because he may be back and in uniform doesn't mean he'll see many snaps.  They could be planning on suiting him up and only playing him in case of an emergency.

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To be fair, it's silly if it really took Pagano this long to put a focus on starting/ending games better since it's been a problem for years. I'm sure he's tried to before though, but even if he has it sure hasn't worked so that's a problem in its own right.

But if he really did just start putting a focus on it, it'd be just like how for years the fans/media clamored to start or go up tempo more only for him to finally consider it this season.

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4 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:

Why would the Colts hurry Allen back?  There really hasn't been a drop off with Doyle/Swoope.

 

It's typical dumb Colt "poop." The answer is "it's good to bring him back at 80% , be a non factor , get hurt again and miss another 5 weeks. " Langford is a good example of that strategy . Instead of getting him right , he was playing at a level where the back up's would have been far more effective.

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8 hours ago, TKnight24 said:

 

For me, even worse than Mewhort and Reitz (which is beyond horrible, don't get me wrong) is Adams being out.  Our pathetic (I think that word is fair) defense lost it's closer and final line of defense.  So we have to rely on Green and his really dumb play of late and his complete lack of pass coverage at the back of our D.  We really might see the passing mark fall this week.   It could be the highest combined pass yardage for two teams in history.  Neither has a run game or a pass defense.  Yikes.  

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