List of possible 2016 HC Candidates.

[chrisfarley]

ive been thinking about Roman for sure.  He knows a lot of coaches and is very, very good.  he also knows a lot about both sides of the ball.

[12dalegend]

So, you're ruling out Chudzinski for a draft decision he did not make?  Nice.

sorry thought was him but would rather have Gruden or Cowher 1st

[crazycolt1]

I like the idea of McDaniels. I have a hunch he'll be fielding calls from a lot of teams though, and he doesn't seem like the type that would be OK with having to answer to Grigson.

Excuse me? Grigson is the GM. Name me more than one coach who don't have to deal with a GM?

[12dalegend]

Not Shurmur+Holmgren?

thanks..forgot Chudz was a 1yr gig but would rather have Gruden or Cowher

[Jason_]

Excuse me? Grigson is the GM. Name me more than one coach who don't have to deal with a GM?

 

Not every GM is the type of control freak that Grigson is currently being portrayed as. 

[jvan1973]

Excuse me? Grigson is the GM. Name me more than one coach who don't have to deal with a GM?

The hoodie

Chip kelly

[crazycolt1]

I think John Gruden could be an option. He's said that he misses coaching in the pass. Plus he's a QB specialist and would love to work with Andrew Luck.

The only thing is that I've heard he's a control guy who needs to have freedom to make his own roster calls. That would mean Grigson giving up some power, especially since Gruden is known to have a fiery temperament.

He'd be my top option though. Pair him with a good DC

Gruden is so far an over rated coach it isn't funny. He took a Dungy team to the super bowl and then what? The Bucs went down fast. The general opinion of Gruder by those players who played for him is not very good. IMO, I don't want a coach who is more interested in lighting up like a x-mas tree every time a camera is looking at him.

[crazycolt1]

The hoodie

Chip kelly

2 out of 32? Irsay is not going to let a coach work as both a coach and GM. I think this subject is way blown out of reality.

[jvan1973]

2 out of 32? Irsay is not going to let a coach work as both a coach and GM. I think this subject is way blown out of reality.

You asked for more than one

[K-148]

Gruden is so far an over rated coach it isn't funny. He took a Dungy team to the super bowl and then what? The Bucs went down fast. The general opinion of Gruder by those players who played for him is not very good. IMO, I don't want a coach who is more interested in lighting up like a x-mas tree every time a camera is looking at him.

Caldwell took Dungy team to the Super Bowl also. I wish Saints were Raiders...

[crazycolt1]

Not every GM is the type of control freak that Grigson is currently being portrayed as. 

You worded that exactly. Portrayed as. IMO, this story has no merit beyond the media. Just because Pagano didn't sign a one year deal does not mean he is gone. Irsay said he would address that at a later time and now the media is putting their own spin to it.

[SDakColts]

Agree...Pagano is a nice guy...sometimes a little too nice...but Grigs is no coach but tries to act like one...but like both of your selections...now weʻll see how this plays out but think theyʻll regroup after this loss...but our division is definitely getting better...now we have to worry about our own now

I agree.

[Buck Showalter]

Gruden is so far an over rated coach it isn't funny. He took a Dungy team to the super bowl and then what? The Bucs went down fast. The general opinion of Gruder by those players who played for him is not very good. IMO, I don't want a coach who is more interested in lighting up like a x-mas tree every time a camera is looking at him.

Pretty much...

 

But man oh man, them pressers sure would be entertaining...

[crazycolt1]

You asked for more than one

The hoodie has Nick Caserio who is the director of player personnel. So he is not in total control. Like I said, this story has drew more life than is reality. The Colts lose a tough game to a very good team and now some are having knee jerk reactions.

[jvan1973]

The hoodie has Nick Caserio who is the director of player personnel. So he is not in total control. Like I said, this story has drew more life than is reality. The Colts lose a tough game to a very good team and now some are having knee jerk reactions.

I totally agree. It's like that around here after every loss. Let's just wait and see what the season brings

[Jason_]

You worded that exactly. Portrayed as.

Deliberately. ;)  I don't know how much of what we're hearing now is true...none of us do. But if there is any truth to it, then Steamboat_Shaun's post is valid.  Not every coach is willing to work for a controlling GM.

[Dustin]

The hoodie has Nick Caserio who is the director of player personnel. So he is not in total control. Like I said, this story has drew more life than is reality. The Colts lose a tough game to a very good team and now some are having knee jerk reactions.

 

Belichick has total control over the roster.

[crazycolt1]

Belichick has total control over the roster.

So you are saying that Caserio has no say so? Wrong.

[Dustin]

So you are saying that Caserio has no say so? Wrong.

 

No say in what? I'm sure he has a say, but any roster decision starts and ends with Bill Belichick. He is literally the GM. He drafts and signs the players.

 

If you have any proof that Caserio makes the final decision on roster moves, I'd love to see it.

[crazycolt1]

All this talk of who controls teams is mute. It is a collective agreement on who is drafted and signed. The coach who made the words ' if you want me to coach I need to shop for the groceries' was Parcells. At what did he do when he left the Giants? Not a lot to write home about.

[Dustin]

The hoodie

Chip kelly

 

Marvin Lewis

Pete Carroll

[crazycolt1]

No say in what? I'm sure he has a say, but any roster decision starts and ends with Bill Belichick. He is literally the GM. He drafts and signs the players.

 

If you have any proof that Caserio makes the final decision on roster moves, I'd love to see it.

Hoodie is not the GM. Since when does one person control every move a team makes? The owner, GM and coaches collectively make the choices. None of this would be possible without scouting.

[John Waylon]

It's gonna be Pep, folks. Get used to it. 

 

 

 

 

 

I would love to bring Jim Harbaugh in. Reunite he and Luck. Look at what he did in SF with Krapneck at QB. 

 

But it seems pretty clear that Grigson wants a yes man who is going to do his bidding the way he wants it done, with no questions asked or concerns raised. 

 

He also loves keeping Luck connected to his Stanford acquaintances, and Pep fits the bill on every level there.  

[Dustin]

Hoodie is not the GM.

 

ERRRR, try again.

 

http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/4/13/8406443/rotoworld-bill-belichick-is-the-nfls-best-general-manager

[John Waylon]

Hoodie is not the GM. Since when does one person control every move a team makes? The owner, GM and coaches collectively make the choices. None of this would be possible without scouting.

 

Sure, he doesn't make 100% of the decisions, but you better believe if he says "no" to a player that the discussion is over. It's less about who has all the control and more about who has the ultimate veto power. 

 

Would the Patriots, in our situation, have drafted Dorsett?

 

Not a chance. Not even remotely a chance. 

[crazycolt1]

Sure, he doesn't make 100% of the decisions, but you better believe if he says "no" to a player that the discussion is over. It's less about who has all the control and more about who has the ultimate veto power. 

 

Would the Patriots, in our situation, have drafted Dorsett?

 

Not a chance. Not even remotely a chance.

You don't know that. Just your opinion. As far as veto power there is only one person per team that has that power and that is the owner. Yes I agree that some coaches have more power than others but this whole story is bent out of shape because of the media stirring the pot. The knee jerk reaction fans are fueling the fire because of the loss to a very good team.

[crazycolt1]

ERRRR, try again.

 

http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/4/13/8406443/rotoworld-bill-belichick-is-the-nfls-best-general-manager

So why isn't Belichick listed as the GM of the patriots on their official website?

[Jason_]

You don't know that. Just your opinion. As far as veto power there is only one person per team that has that power and that is the owner. Yes I agree that some coaches have more power than others but this whole story is bent out of shape because of the media stirring the pot. The knee jerk reaction fans are fueling the fire because of the loss to a very good team.

 

Unless the owner hands over that veto power to one of his employees.

[Jason_]

So why isn't Belichick listed as the GM of the patriots on their official website?

 

Who is listed as GM on the Patriots' official website?

[Dustin]

So why isn't Belichick listed as the GM of the patriots on their official website?

 

I don't know, I don't run the Patriots official website. 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

Excuse me? Grigson is the GM. Name me more than one coach who don't have to deal with a GM?

 

He's the kind of guy that will control his own destiny when teams come calling. And after working in New England all these years and seeing what works and what doesn't, he's not going to sign up to coach a team he has no control over. So like, maybe you should chill out.

[JColts72]

Not another so called defensive genius please. A tough takmaster who can light up some passion and wear his emotions on his sleeves.

[superrep1967]

All but a foregone conclusion that this is Pagano's last year in Indy.

Here are some HC Candidates I've put into tiers ranking from most-likely to least-likely. Bolded names make my wish-list.

Most Likely Candidates:

Pat Shurmur, OC, Philadelphia

Pep Hamilton, OC, Indianapolis

Adam Gase, OC, Chicago

Greg Roman, OC, Buffalo

Teryl Austin, DC, Detroit

Moderate Chance:

Mike Smith, FA

Kyle Shanahan, OC, Atlanta

Doug Marrone, OL, Jacksonville

Hue Jackson, OC, Cincinnati

Not Very Likely:

David Shaw, HC, Stanford

Josh McDaniels, OC, New England

Bill Lazor, OC, Miami

Jon Gruden, FA

LOL No (aka no chance):

Nick Saban, HC, Alabama

Urban Meyer, HC, Ohio State

Bill Cowher

[superrep1967]

This whole talk of Grigson wanting total/as much control of the team as possible has me really worried. Cause see my NHL team Washington decided to run like that (have the gm make most if not all decisions) and our team went from one of the best in the league to one of the worst. Now granted this is football but the results i doubt, will differ too much. Hopefully this is all just nonsense and we can get back to worrying about football.

Grigson is a jerk that's the whole problem. It's pretty obvious when he speaks in case anbody noticed.

[sfergson727]

If Pep Hamilton is retained and made a head coach, I am done with the Colts.

[Knuckles79]

What that guy said ^^^^

[Gavin]

So why isn't Belichick listed as the GM of the patriots on their official website?

Nobody is

[esmort]

I would love that, but I don't think he'd be able to work under Grigson. 

 

 

Grigson is the kink in the chain to keep us from getting any good coaching candidate.

 

If the rumors are true and Grigson is the root of a lot of these problems we just need to clean house and start over ... a coach that will be Grigson's "Yes Man" is definitely not the answer.

[Indyfan4life]

I just want some damn intensity and diversity in play calling. I love Luck and everything he does, but come on. You cannot have our talent on offense and sling it 49 times on opening day.

We need some fire and passion.

[Rally5]

How about we as fans not feed into this nightmare scenario for 2015?  Don't we want a shot at a good season or are we looking to sabotage ourselves?  We still have a great season ahead of us and where I get frustrated with these coaches and this GM, now is NOT the time for this crap.  Plus to be honest, some of these are the dumbest, most ill-advised suggestions I've ever read.  I lost 15 minutes here I'll never get back....