Okay You Are The Gm...who Is Overpaid On This List

[dn4192]

Player

Position

2011 Salary

2011 Salary Cap # Dwight Freeney DE $11,420,000 $16,420,000 Reggie Wayne WR $5,950,000 $8,033,333 Ryan Diem T $5,400,000 $6,257,142 Antoine Bethea S $4,745,000 $4,745,000 Dallas Clark TE $4,200,000 $6,990,000 Kerry Collins QB $4,000,000 $4,000,000 Peyton Manning QB $3,400,000 $16,000,000 Robert Mathis DE $2,410,000 $5,030,000 Jeff Saturday C $2,400,000 $4,883,333 Gary Brackett LB $2,000,000 $4,400,000 Eric Foster DT $1,200,000 $1,200,000 Anthony Gonzalez WR $1,100,000 $1,760,000 Justin Snow TE $875,000 $875,000 Donald Brown RB $635,000 $1,155,000 Philip Wheeler LB $555,000 $716,000 Jacob Tamme TE $555,000 $667,500 Justin Tryon CB $555,000 $662,250 Pierre Garcon WR $555,000 $577,750 Jamey Richard G $555,000 $566,183 Jacob Lacey CB $480,000 $813,333 Fili Moala DT $480,000 $738,000 Jerraud Powers CB $480,000 $648,750 Austin Collie WR $480,000 $589,388 Curtis Painter QB $480,000 $502,750 Pat McAfee P $480,000 $494,500 Michael Toudouze T $480,000 $480,000 Jerry Hughes DE $405,000 $2,140,000 Patrick Angerer LB $405,000 $740,000 Brody Eldridge TE $405,000 $445,750 Kavell Conner LB $405,000 $416,250 David Caldwell CB $405,000 $405,000 Chris Gronkowski RB $405,000 $405,000 Jeff Linkenbach T $405,000 $405,000 Joe Reitz T $405,000 $405,000 Jaimie Thomas T $405,000 $405,000 Blair White WR $405,000 $405,000 Kevin Thomas CB $330,000 $518,750 Total $60,250,000 $95,895,962

Edited October 28, 2011 by dn4192

[Ramblinwreck7]

It's hard to read this and are you sure the #'s are right? Ryan Diem took a paycut so I doubt he is making $5 or $6 million dollars a year.

[dn4192]

It's hard to read this and are you sure the #'s are right? Ryan Diem took a paycut so I doubt he is making $5 or $6 million dollars a year.

That is the list I got from the web. Sorry about how hard it is to read, tried to adjust and it wouldn't let me.

[dn4192]

I got the list from here..

http://www.sportscity.com/NFL/Indianapolis-Colts-Salaries

[Razgriz18]

Is the GM an option? :yay:

Off topic, but are the emoticons a symbol of our season? Why are the angry/frustrated ones first? Just curious...

[GoDeep]

I refuse to try to make sense of this jumble.

[DILLIGAFER]

Wayne, Mathis, Snow.

[JimJaime]

I am bad 11 million a yr for Freeney? He is good but not that good.

[WSO]

here ill try to sort it

copy and paste it into the original post (i bolded who I thought was over paid)

2011 Salary Cap #

Dwight Freeney DE $11,420,000 $16,420,000

Reggie Wayne WR $5,950,000 $8,033,333

Ryan Diem T $5,400,000 $6,257,142

Antoine Bethea S $4,745,000 $4,745,000

Dallas Clark TE $4,200,000 $6,990,000

Kerry Collins QB $4,000,000 $4,000,000

Peyton Manning QB $3,400,000 $16,000,000

Robert Mathis DE $2,410,000 $5,030,000

Jeff Saturday C $2,400,000 $4,883,333

Gary Brackett LB $2,000,000 $4,400,000

Eric Foster DT $1,200,000 $1,200,000

Anthony Gonzalez WR $1,100,000 $1,760,000

Justin Snow TE $875,000 $875,000

Donald Brown RB $635,000 $1,155,000

Philip Wheeler LB $555,000 $716,000

Jacob Tamme TE $555,000 $667,500

Justin Tryon CB $555,000 $662,250

Pierre Garcon WR $555,000 $577,750

Jamey Richard G $555,000 $566,183

Jacob Lacey CB $480,000 $813,333

Fili Moala DT $480,000 $738,000

Jerraud Powers CB $480,000 $648,750

Austin Collie WR $480,000 $589,388

Curtis Painter QB $480,000 $502,750

Pat McAfee P $480,000 $494,500

Michael Toudouze T $480,000 $480,000

Jerry Hughes DE $405,000 $2,140,000

Patrick Angerer LB $405,000 $740,000

Brody Eldridge TE $405,000 $445,750

Kavell Conner LB $405,000 $416,250

David Caldwell CB $405,000 $405,000

Chris Gronkowski RB $405,000 $405,000

Jeff Linkenbach T $405,000 $405,000

Joe Reitz T $405,000 $405,000

Jaimie Thomas T $405,000 $405,000

Blair White WR $405,000 $405,000

Kevin Thomas CB $330,000 $518,750

Total $60,250,000 $95,895,962

Edited October 28, 2011 by ssarow

[GoDeep]

I am bad 11 million a yr for Freeney? He is good but not that good.

He is the D's Peyton. What would our D be without two monster pass rushers?

Worse. Seems impossible, but we would be worse. 82-7 Bad.

[shaunzo]

Well if I read those numbers correctly, and pair it up with their record, I'd say everyone on the list is overpaid by a ton.

[Jason_]

I would add Freeney to the overpaid list. I thought he was overpaid back when he was given the new contract and he was an every down DE then but was a major liability against the run. Now, while he has improved somewhat against the run, he's still taken out quite a bit on known run downs so he's effectively become a situational pass rusher. The kind of money he's being paid should be given to an every down DE that is effective both against the pass and run...imo.

[Robin]

freeney, Diem wayne could atleast take a million off each

[IndyD4U]

Collins ~ Obviously

Brackett

Gonzalez

Brown

Lacey

Hughes

[Larry Horseman]

I am bad 11 million a yr for Freeney? He is good but not that good.

It's so high this year and next because the Colts back loaded the contract...typical Polian move. Freeney is Freeney...he's been one of the best in the business for us over the last decade so I have a hard time saying he's over payed, but that is a lot of coin for the amount of production we have been getting out of him so far this season.

Edited October 28, 2011 by Larry Horseman

[Blue Horseshoe]

Bill Polian and Jim Caldwell

[-JJ-]

What jumps out is Manning and Freeney at 16 mil cap.

Freeney is just too much.

Then there's quite a few in the 4+ m cap and a bunch around 600k.

Obviously lopsided which has been what folks have been saying all along.

[GoGoColts]

Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne are extremely over paid.

[MoM]

I think McAfee is underpaid.

[husker61]

diem was supposed to make 5.4 million before he was cut, i believe he is 2.3 million now. wayne is 5.9 and 6.2 million. clark is 7.7

clarks is WAY over payed, and i have said this since he signed his contract. i really like freeney, but he is making too much money. i didn't like the brackett contract ether. his contract hurts the colts the next 3 years, that's when he is really over priced. hughes is way over payed, but that's the crap shoot you take with first round picks. bad 2nd contract decisions are all on the team management. freeney is in mannings salary cap area next year, and that has to be addressed.

[sb2001]

How much had Donald Brown earned per yard...... I wonder.....

[Coltssouth]

How much had Donald Brown earned per yard...... I wonder.....

Totally off-topic. Sry. But your avatar always makes me smile. What a cutie!

[RobSam]

Before anybody starts picking off names of people making too much money............

lets first make a list of the people at your own company or job and see how much they make compared to you.......and pick that list apart first.........ah.....then its not so easy......you mean you are honestly worth what your getting paid now......or is your pay as high as it is because you've been doing a great job for many years.......????....or you signed a contract that pays you the big bucks no matter what....

Leave the poor players and their salaries alone........they work as hard if not harder than any one of us for their money.

[jwilli69]

RW is paid just about right as a starting WR with his skills. Freeney is and was overpaid and Dallas is not playing up to his contract either. Gonzo and hughes will be well overpaid as well with what they are giving us. Cant cut Freeney or Dallas though at this point. RW is going to have to understand his value on the market at his age next season and Freeney may have to redo his contract as well.

[Superman]

You don't pay Freeney for his numbers, or the downs he plays. You pay him because of his impact, which is tremendous. He sets the table for the defense.

[husker61]

You don't pay Freeney for his numbers, or the downs he plays. You pay him because of his impact, which is tremendous. He sets the table for the defense.

when freeney signed the contract he was a every down de. for whatever reason, he isn't now. can you give me a list of the part time players that are payed the top salary at their position.

[Pombi]

What Stands out to me is not how overpaid some players are, but how underpaid Jerraud Powers is.

[Jason_]

You don't pay Freeney for his numbers, or the downs he plays. You pay him because of his impact, which is tremendous. He sets the table for the defense.

that's fine to pay him more than you would a typical situational pass rusher because he is the best situational pass rusher in the league. But there's a difference in paying him for what he does + some on top of that because he's the best at it and making him the highest paid defensive player in the league (which to my recollection he was at the time he signed the new contract). Just my opinion.

[Jason_]

when freeney signed the contract he was a every down de. for whatever reason, he isn't now. can you give me a list of the part time players that are payed the top salary at their position.

He isn't an every down DE anymore because, though he has improved, he's still usually a liability against the run. Anderson and Brayton were brought in to play on running downs. That's why both Freeney and Mathis are getting less playing time than in years past.

[John Dee]

It's only week 8 kids...................

[everybodysgotone]

What jumps out is Manning and Freeney at 16 mil cap.

Freeney is just too much.

Then there's quite a few in the 4+ m cap and a bunch around 600k.

Obviously lopsided which has been what folks have been saying all along.

No team has had bigger haves/have nots salary disparity than the Colts over recent years. Part of the philosophical problems (but in no derogation to holding roster spots for non-contributors and current poor coaching, etc). Evidence is now on the field for all with no willingness or ability to see. Sanders paid more than Polamalu at the time; Freeney biggest defensive contract at the time; Manning highest paid player at the time; undeserved elite money to Hayden - are some examples of collective influence on how the current team was formed. That's reality regardless of what several prominent blowhards fans on this board would have folks believe.

The past offseason was an indication some of these old ways might become history though. Those trends have been encouraging even in the midst old mistakes being exacerbated by an 0-7 start. Looking forward to the future....

[smittywerb]

2011 Salary Cap #

Dwight Freeney DE $11,420,000 $16,420,000 - as said before, he was worth this contract in the past when he was an every down DE, but now he is a liability against the run, he needs to shave that down.

Ryan Diem T $5,400,000 $6,257,142 - production has gone down

Dallas Clark TE $4,200,000 $6,990,000 - i think this year shows Peyton inflated his talents. If he is not worth this w/o Peyton, then he shouldn't be paid like this. Another player shouldn't determine another player's salary

Kerry Collins QB $4,000,000 $4,000,000 - the obvious

Gary Brackett LB $2,000,000 $4,400,000 - injuries have made him expendable.

Eric Foster DT $1,200,000 $1,200,000 - one dimensional, production sucks

Anthony Gonzalez WR $1,100,000 $1,760,000 - injuries have made him expendable

Justin Snow TE $875,000 $875,000 - who?

Donald Brown RB $635,000 $1,155,000 - too much for a 3rd string running back

Jacob Lacey CB $480,000 $813,333 - no way he should be getting paid more than Powers, that makes him overpaid automatically!

Jerry Hughes DE $405,000 $2,140,000 - kind of high for such a low pick. That 2 million is gonna hurt us.

[BIGugly]

And this is just the salaries. Added to these $$$$$$$ are roster bonuses, signing bonuses, ??????bonuses.....

[coltfaninnewyork]

coyer,and caldwell

[luvdacolts67]

Jim Caldwell and the intire front office

[Andy]

Diem...Collins....Brackett...Hughes...Donald Brown...Foster

[Superman]

Donald Brown RB $635,000 $1,155,000 - too much for a 3rd string running back

Jerry Hughes DE $405,000 $2,140,000 - kind of high for such a low pick. That 2 million is gonna hurt us.

People really hate Donald Brown and Jerry Hughes. No question they aren't performing the way you would expect two first round picks to perform, but they aren't overpaid. A third year running back making $635k is par for the course.

And Hughes making $405k base, plus incentives, is nothing. These are minimum level contracts. I can't imagine what legitimate complaint could come from either of these two contracts.

[ruksak]

People really hate Donald Brown and Jerry Hughes. No question they aren't performing the way you would expect two first round picks to perform, but they aren't overpaid. A third year running back making $635k is par for the course.

And Hughes making $405k base, plus incentives, is nothing. These are minimum level contracts. I can't imagine what legitimate complaint could come from either of these two contracts.

Well done. Wasted picks but they were signed with cautious money.

[MCurtis32]

take out the Polian's salary and influense and the team would improve.