CR91 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 it wasnt a major trade, but whos the winner of this trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 For whatever reason Hughes wasn't working out here, and we got Sheppard for him, who has been solid for us, Hughes does have 10 sacks on the year, so good for him that he worked out there. Seems like a win-win trade to me, we got a solid linebacker, they got a solid defensive end who is starting to realize his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin County Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Why, why, why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Lets put it this way, Werner has 2.5 sacks on the year. Hughes had 1 sack through his 1st 2 years with us, he wasn't working out here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjyb Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 it wasnt a major trade, but whos the winner of this tradehughes lol hes got 10 sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jerry Hughes won. He didn't fit with this defense and is making a new opportunity with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Laughable.Hughes had 4 sacks his 1st year in this D rotating behind Mathis and Freeney is rush situations.With Freeney gone 100% reason to expect 6+ sacks in year two.You and the ?? who said Sheppard has been solid should hang out. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 ive thought kelvin sheppard has played well for us this year. his playing time has been limited compared to hughes but i like him and hope he's back next year. the 3 new colts ive been most excited about since they signed have been very productive to me. (Cherilus,Walden, and Sheppard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jerry Hughes won. He didn't fit with this defense and is making a new opportunity with the Bills.It helps he is playing with a very talented front seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Laughable.Hughes had 4 sacks his 1st year in this D rotating behind Mathis and Freeney is rush situations.With Freeney gone 100% reason to expect 6+ sacks in year two.You and the ?? who said Sheppard has been solid should hang out. LOLHow about you pay more attention to their play on the field there bud, Kelvin Sheppard has been solid, especially since he has started for Angerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Bills won the trade. They got a very good pass rusher and we got a guy who's losing playing time to an UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Im not gonna say who won or lost. I will say that way before the trade I thought that Hughes should have gotten the job as starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Bills won the trade. They got a very good pass rusher and we got a guy who's losing playing time to an UDFA.lets be honest though, that UDFA looks like he could be one hell of a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 How about you pay more attention to their play on the field there bud, Kelvin Sheppard has been solid, especially since he has started for Angererwanna hang out XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Once again folks, it takes 3 years minimum to see the true value of a trade. It all about lasting success not immeadiate successbest to look at this again in 2015 then we can see who really won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 lets be honest though, that UDFA looks like he could be one hell of a playerMcnary rogers and whalen all look good. These udfa could propel us to great things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 wanna hang out XDapparently we are supposed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts8718 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The few times I have seen SHEPPARD he looked terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlue18 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Imo, the trade was a misfire by Griggs. Hughes had an upside, and I don't think Sheppard has looked good. He has moments, but any player in the NFL can have "moments". With Hughes seeing more snaps, he would have had more sacks and pressures here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouNeedIsLuck Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Bills won, but whatever. He wasn't producing here so letting him go wasn't a bad idea. If he finally performed up to his abilities, fine, but it's not the Colts fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanford Joel Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 If Hughes is instrumental in helping the Bills beat the Pats on Sunday, then maybe we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 honestly what I think was the thing with hughes was the pressure of trying to replace one perhaps two hall of famers in freeney and mathis. some players like luck can handle the pressure of replacing a HOFer some cant. in buffalo, theres no pressure so he can just focus on being himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hughes came out and said he never got comfortable here and it didn't feel like home! So really he didn't like playing in Indy! It's a win-win.. Both younger players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Who cares if we "won" in a trade. There was no room on the team. Would rather have walden and Werner. Plus we are 10-5 bout to be 11-5 again. What's the bills record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD FAN MAN Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Bills won, but whatever. He wasn't producing here so letting him go wasn't a bad idea. If he finally performed up to his abilities, fine, but it's not the Colts fault. he did not fit in our system as an outside rush lb. better as a 4-3 def end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtJ82 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Im not gonna say who won or lost. I will say that way before the trade I thought that Hughes should have gotten the job as starter.Over who, Mathis? Mathis is our rush linebacker.....I don't see Hughes playing well in Walden's position. Hughes wasn't going to be an ILB like Sheppard is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 he did not fit in our system as an outside rush lb. better as a 4-3 def end He plays 34 OLB in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 honestly what I think was the thing with hughes was the pressure of trying to replace one perhaps two hall of famers in freeney and mathis. some players like luck can handle the pressure of replacing a HOFer some cant. in buffalo, theres no pressure so he can just focus on being himself The thing with Hughes was that he was a raw, prototypical 34 OLB who needed time to develop and was drafted out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeski Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 The few times I have seen SHEPPARD he looked terriblewhy have you only seen him a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelDragon Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Good for Hughes. I don't mind that he's having success in Buffalo. For whatever reason, he wasn't going to have success here anyway. We're on the verge of 11-5, so it's all good. Now I'm just hoping that another trade worksout and TRich makes his statement in the play-offs and Cleveland ends up with the 32nd pick overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 sheppard has shown me nothing, big win for the bills. grigson's trades this year have been terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 The thing with Hughes was that he was a raw, prototypical 34 OLB who needed time to develop and was drafted out of position.He's playing as a DE in buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 He's playing as a DE in buffaloNo he's not. He's an OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 No he's not. He's an OLB.The bills play 34? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 The bills play 34?Yes. He's an OLB along with Mario Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 Yes. He's an OLB along with Mario Williams.I need to watch more football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markabrown96 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 He's a 90 rated on madden and Shepard is a 75 therefore buffalo wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Once again folks, it takes 3 years minimum to see the true value of a trade. It all about lasting success not immeadiate successbest to look at this again in 2015 then we can see who really won Ummm, no. It doesn't take three years to see the value of a trade like this. It was a veteran player for a veteran player. One has given his team excellent production at a premium position, the other has been very inconsistent and has done little to make a difference for his team. The Bills won this trade six ways to Sunday. Might take longer to see the value of a draft day trade, or a trade involving younger prospects that can't or don't contribute right away. Or if it's a vet for vet trade and both players perform well to begin with (like Champ Bailey for Clinton Portis.) But for something like this, the proof is clear right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 The thing with Hughes was that he was a raw, prototypical 34 OLB who needed time to develop and was drafted out of position.He played DE at TCU. I think you're trying to say his skill set and abilities were more suited for a 34 OLB opposed to playing DE in the NFL? To which I agree. I remember Mathis talking about Hughes last year, when Pagano was getting the players up to speed in his system, and Mathis raved about how natural and good Hughes looked playing the position. I guess you could say it was a win for Buffalo, but would he have been as good here? That we will never know. Sheppard will more than likely be gone next year or a special teamer at most. Freeman and Mcnary will be the horses inside next year, and I would keep a watchful eye on Justin Hickman, I think he might be another star in the making if he can get healthy next year and continue his transition inside because he looked very promising. The Colts could actually have 3 stud ILB's if all goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 The thing with Hughes was that he was a raw, prototypical 34 OLB who needed time to develop and was drafted out of position. And by the wrong team (in the wrong round). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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