Superman Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: Question? How do you see that Ballard is already lining up coordinators? Not saying you're wrong, just wondering how you arrived at this view? Stephen Holder's latest article says Chris Ballard and Josh McDaniels have the same agent. He also represented Howie Roseman and Doug Pederson, Tom Telesco and Mike McCoy, and Mike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur. That's three GM/coaching tandems that were paired up over the last decade. I'm sure that's entirely coincidental, but maybe it's not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Superman said: Stephen Holder's latest article says Chris Ballard and Josh McDaniels have the same agent. He also represented Howie Roseman and Doug Pederson, Tom Telesco and Mike McCoy, and Mike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur. That's three GM/coaching tandems that were paired up over the last decade. I'm sure that's entirely coincidental, but maybe it's not... Interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, aaron11 said: we arent 0-16 bad, but we were 4-12 without him. the oline sucks, the running game sucks, the defense was what like 30th. that was with a schedule where we avoided the top seeds in the league its an exaggeration to call it the worst job in sports, but i can see why a coach would be skeptical if luck is not guaranteed to go We were just one year removed from a terrible GM.. Of course we aren’t gonna win a lot of games without the star QB. The giants lost more than we did. And had locker room problems. Why aren’t they mentioned as a bad place to work, like Indy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said: The giants lost more than we did. And had locker room problems. Why aren’t they mentioned as a bad place to work? Let me ask you a question. Where are you getting the information that said the Colts were a bad place to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said: Let me ask you a question. Where are you getting the information that said the Colts were a bad place to work? Same place most of these posters are..... out of the thin air and their own tinfoil covered brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, csmopar said: Same place most of these posters are..... out of the thin air and their own tinfoil covered brains I was thinking in that line but I was giving ALf the chance to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmort Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said: Let me ask you a question. Where are you getting the information that said the Colts were a bad place to work? I think people are getting it from the sports media. Most of the shows/talking heads are talking how NYG is the premier job, and Indy is usually middle to low on most of their lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said: I was thinking in that line but I was giving ALf the chance to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, esmort said: I think people are getting from it from the sports media. Most of the shows/talking heads are talking how NYG is the premier job, and Indy is usually middle to low on most of their lists. It's the same thing Indy has always fought, whether it's the NFL, NBA or NASCAR.... it's a small market compared to New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said: The giants lost more than we did. And had locker room problems. Why aren’t they mentioned as a bad place to work, like Indy? i cant really answer that, i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmort Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, csmopar said: It's the same thing Indy ha always fought, whether it's the NFL, NBA or NASCAR.... it's a small market compared to New York. Yeah usually the reasoning is the NY market, the NYG historic and solid franchise, maybe no Luck, and our roster is not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, csmopar said: It's the same thing Indy has always fought, whether it's the NFL, NBA or NASCAR.... it's a small market compared to New York. Yep, according to the NY media it's always been the Nicks vs the Hicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Watch it be Chuck Pagano. Thought the same thing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Mr.Debonair said: Will the assistant coaches pool pickings be slim by the time a decision is made? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, csmopar said: It's the same thing Indy has always fought, whether it's the NFL, NBA or NASCAR.... it's a small market compared to New York. Flyover Territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlue4Shoe86 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I was going to say also something interesting else interesting about this subject. I just read an article about Josh McDaniels in Bleacher Report. It was about him learning from his time in Denver. The most interesting part. After being fired a person he sought out... Tony Dungy. It said that he spoke with him at length on several occasions about what he needed to change. Justthiught it it was interesting. Another connection to Indy perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem-Dog Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Indy's market sure didn't hinder Peyton's endorsement opportunities. The NFL views Green Bay and Pittsburgh as two of its premiere markets, thus market-size is not a concern for the league as teams like NY and Miami don't have an advantage when it comes to signing free agents. LA's fair weather market is no count either. Although I believe market size is a myth as it pertains to the NFL, Indy is the 15th largest city in the US, and steadily growing, not shrinking. Since there are 32 teams I will accept the term medium market but not the term small market due to the stigma attached to this false narrative. As far as regional support outside of Indiana the Colts are making great headway with affiliates in Kentucky, Illinois and Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 So, if we see Josh on the sideline crouching behind a water cooler with his smart phone and a hot dog, he's probably lining up his coordinators for the Indy job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Clem-Dog said: Indy's market sure didn't hinder Peyton's endorsement opportunities. The NFL views Green Bay and Pittsburgh as two of its premiere markets, thus market-size is not a concern for the league as teams like NY and Miami don't have an advantage when it comes to signing free agents. LA's fair weather market is no count either. Although I believe market size is a myth as it pertains to the NFL, Indy is the 15th largest city in the US, and steadily growing, not shrinking. Since there are 32 teams I will accept the term medium market but not the term small market due to the stigma attached to this false narrative. As far as regional support outside of Indiana the Colts are making great headway with affiliates in Kentucky, Illinois and Missouri. I'm not saying it's true. In saying that's the national medias perception and portrayals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Ian Rapoport indicates that the Colts have cut their list down to 2 - McDaniels or Vrabel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000905745/article/where-things-stand-for-cardinals-colts-giants-lions-vacancies Quote Indianapolis Colts Indianapolis has narrowed its search to two candidates: Patriotsoffensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Texans defensive coordinator Mike Vrabel. The plan is to gather intel this weekend, meet, then proceed on Monday with either second interviews or simply by making a choice. McDaniels figures to be the front-runner, in part because if it was Vrabel the Colts would have made a move already. Based on the relationship between GM Chris Ballard and McDaniels, as well as McDaniels' prowess with the quarterback position, McDaniels has long been in the lead. The only issue is, the hire may not be made until early February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#12. Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Let's hope that's true. I wouldn't completely dismiss Vrabel, though. At the beginning of the process, everyone assumed it would be one of the KC guys, but Ballard is all about competition. I thought if someone else came in and blew him away in the interview process, he would probably hire him. Still true. Everyone assumes it will be McDaniels, but if he loves what he sees and hears from Vrabel, he'll probably hire him. It's true they could already have hired Vrabel, but they could already have ended the process in McDaniels" favor as well. Very curious that Toub was the favorite for a year, then failed to even get an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1959Colts Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, stitches said: Maybe they will add Toub? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 With Vrabel, it hits me what someone said - Ballard could judge a coach based on his ceiling, not necessarily his floor. That’s a total paraphrase. I hear folks talking up Vrabel’s potential, he’s just not there, now. now, though, is concerning since this should be 12’s prime Please let us hire JMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roger Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, stitches said: "Phew" says Colts offensive linemen. Didn't want to get punched during a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NFLfan Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 3:25 PM, NFLfan said: Does Matt Patricia seem like a Giants type coach? On 1/10/2018 at 3:41 PM, Defjamz26 said: No way. He’s be a perfect fit for the Jets, but the Giants organization and their fan base here is pretty classy. Yeah, Schefter is reporting that Patricia is expected to be named the Lions head coach. So, the Colts will compete with the Giants for McDaniels. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22094437/new-england-patriots-dc-matt-patricia-expected-next-head-coach-detroit-lions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 11 hours ago, NFLfan said: Yeah, Schefter is reporting that Patricia is expected to be named the Lions head coach. So, the Colts will compete with the Giants for McDaniels. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22094437/new-england-patriots-dc-matt-patricia-expected-next-head-coach-detroit-lions I’d take McDaniels over Vrabel and Patricia so I’m not too upset at this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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