Cribbsfaircatch Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 How does this work? Can they somehow be rid of? Never liked either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12isthenew18 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 we can cut or trade walden easily but can't touch gosder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 How does this work? Can they somehow be rid of? Never liked either I can understand the want to trade Cherilus but why Walden? he has played well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cribbsfaircatch Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 we can cut or trade walden easily but can't touch gosderDang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Why would we trade Walden? Him & Newsome were the only reasons we had a pass rush last year with Mathis out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 we can cut or trade walden easily but can't touch gosderHe can be a designated cut for June 1st. I don't know why you think Gosder can't be touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cribbsfaircatch Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 I can understand the want to trade Cherilus but why Walden? he has played well!Well compared to what? I don't even think he's substantially better than Werner. With Mathis and Newsome, and a possible rookie, he needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Walden isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12isthenew18 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 How does this work? Can they somehow be rid of? Never liked eitheryour profile pic brings bad memories of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 we can cut or trade walden easily but can't touch gosdercan't be touched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12isthenew18 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 He can be a designated cut for June 1st. I don't know why you think Gosder can't be touched.touched in as cut right now and can't trade really either june 1st still hurts us too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 your profile pic brings bad memories of the season LOL, yeah seriously. Its been bothering me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Well compared to what? I don't even think he's substantially better than Werner. With Mathis and Newsome, and a possible rookie, he needs to go. Neither Newsome nor Mathis can provide what Walden does in the run game. He does NOT need to go at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 touched in as cut right now and can't trade really either june 1st still hurts us toAh I see what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Well compared to what? I don't even think he's substantially better than Werner. With Mathis and Newsome, and a possible rookie, he needs to go.So you'd take a 30+ yr old OLB who's coming off a season ending injury over Walden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cribbsfaircatch Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Neither Newsome nor Mathis can provide what Walden does in the run game. He does NOT need to go at this point in time.His play vs the run is so overrated. He can easily be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 We do not need to get rid of Walden. We just need to bring in a pure edge rusher to pair with him, Mathis, Newsome, and Werner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Well compared to what? I don't even think he's substantially better than Werner. With Mathis and Newsome, and a possible rookie, he needs to go. We clearly aren't watching the same Walden, He sets the edge nicely, and provides more than adequate QB pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cribbsfaircatch Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 So you'd take a 30+ yr old OLB who's coming off a season ending injury over Walden?I'll take Newsome, Werner, and a potential rookie over him. I have no real expectations of Mathis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 i don't get it Erik Walden played really well last year not sure why you want a inexperienced rookie over an actual proven player who's produced for us and provided a pass rush that's just dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 His play vs the run is so overrated. He can easily be replaced. Ok then replace him. But you're not going to replace him with Newsome or Mathis. Find someone better that can set the edge and provide a pass rush and I'm all for it. Until then, we can't rely on Werner to be the only OLB that can play the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'll take Newsome, Werner, and a potential rookie over him. I have no real expectations of Mathis.You have no real expectations of Mathis yet he was the first reason you listed as to why Walden should leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 You have no real expectations of Mathis yet he was the first reason you listed as to why Walden should leave? You've stumbled into a Brad Wells argument I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnynitas33 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I never understood my we made Cherilus the highest paid RT in nfl,, and now im not surprised they wanna get rid of him,, Walden in ok but if we can get something for him id be good, that would just make more room for Brooks Reed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Walden should and will be here in my opinion. I am in the group that believed he stepped it up last year maybe the most improved player on D. He made timely plays as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 You've stumbled into a Brad Wells argument I believe.Not familiar with who Brad Wells is aside from when this forum is slandering him lolSo didn't really get the reference you just made lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Not familiar with who Brad Wells is aside from when this forum is slandering him lolSo didn't really get the reference you just made lolWhat you pointed out was essentially something that Brad Wells would do. Contradict himself in an attempt to make an argument. You weren't the Brad Wells in the conversation. Not knowing of him makes you a better person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 What you pointed out was essentially something that Brad Wells would do. Contradict himself in an attempt to make an argument. You weren't the Brad Wells in the conversation. Not knowing of him makes you a better person.Thanks. I had to go check twitter. I followed a Mike Wells earlier today so when FA kicks off I get scoops from him and Kevin & Stephen Holder. Is Mike related to Brad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Anyone can be traded, technically, unless they have a no trade clause in their contract (which is rare). I don't think either player has any real trade market. If we traded Walden, we'd have a cap penalty in 2015 of $500K, and would save $3.75m against the 2015 cap. If we traded Cherilus prior to June 1, we'd have a cap penalty in 2015 of $8.7m, and would lose $1.8m against the 2015 cap. If we traded him after June 1, we'd have a cap penalty in 2015 of $2.9m, and a cap penalty in 2016 of $5.8m, and would save $4m against the 2015 cap and $4.1m against the 2016 cap. (Same numbers as if we released him. Except we can release him now with a post-June 1 designation.) Long story short, I don't think either of those players gets traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Anyone can be traded, technically, unless they have a no trade clause in their contract (which is rare). I don't think either player has any real trade market. If we traded Walden, we'd have a cap penalty in 2015 of $500K, and would save $3.75m against the 2015 cap. If we traded Cherilus prior to June 1, we'd have a cap penalty in 2015 of $8.7m, and would lose $1.8m against the 2015 cap. If we traded him after June 1, we'd have a cap penalty in 2015 of $2.9m, and a cap penalty in 2016 of $5.8m, and would save $4m against the 2015 cap and $4.1m against the 2016 cap. (Same numbers as if we released him. Except we can release him now with a post-June 1 designation.) Long story short, I don't think either of those players gets traded.Way to go...ruin the opportunity for a meaningless argument over something that is not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Way to go...ruin the opportunity for a meaningless argument over something that is not going to happen. No, feel free to carry on. Just answering the question. Nothing to see here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Thanks. I had to go check twitter. I followed a Mike Wells earlier today so when FA kicks off I get scoops from him and Kevin & Stephen Holder. Is Mike related to Brad?No relation. Mike is the Colts reporter for ESPN, I think he does a good job of reporting trades and signings. I like Stephen Holder and George Bremer. Those are good follows especially since you aren't in Indiana like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I never understood my we made Cherilus the highest paid RT in nfl,, and now im not surprised they wanna get rid of him,, Walden in ok but if we can get something for him id be good, that would just make more room for Brooks Reed!! I don't believe it's been accepted as fact that the Colts want to get rid of Cherilous. The might. Maybe. But is there any proof that they do? Has their been a story suggesting this? If so, please link, I'd like to see it. The only fact is that many Colts fans want to cut him. Not a big surprise, as fans are typically neither informed nor patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Can they be? Sure any player under contract can be traded. Will they be? More than likely no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bap1331 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 ! Who would want them? ........nvm maybe we can convince the raiders to give us their #3 overall pick and they will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck_Is_Skilled Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I was never really down on Walden but my support for him went way up when I watched him routinely bull rush Joe Thomas. His weakness are in man coverage and against the zone read but he really does his job in our scheme as an edge setter and he does push the pocket from time to time. His contract doesnt put us in any binds either. As for Gosdar, im wary of his health but i'm in no hurry to give him the axe unless there is a significant upgrade to be had. There doesnt seem to be many available at the moment so I dont think management is looking to make a move. His replacement will need to be found soon though. I may be in the minority but I dont think the O-line is priority #1 for Grigs right now. He has a good chunk of money and draft picks invested in the line. Quality depth may be the bigger concern as opposed to replacing what we have. Health and natural progression will go a long way for the group. Im optimistic about Thornton, more than others it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 can't be touched? Perhaps he's one of the Untouchables??????????????? Just an educated guess.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGW4Micheal Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Why would we keep cutting players? We already have to fill enough spots through FA and the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 How does this work? Can they somehow be rid of? Never liked eitherWhy don't you like Walden? He had like 7 or 8 sacks this year from the strong side and played the run well. He had a great season and his contract is comparatively low. Gosder is a health risk, I can kind of understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He had 6 sacks, 5 against Bum teams. I`m sure you can attribute several to our tight coverage and lame QB's. He was ok against the run. Gives us very little in space. 37 tackles for a season is not very good. The guy places very hard. Gotta love that. He is more of a decent, rotational, depth guy. Hopefully Cam Johnson comes back healthy. He was set for a solid season. Why don't you like Walden? He had like 7 or 8 sacks this year from the strong side and played the run well. He had a great season and his contract is comparatively low. Gosder is a health risk, I can kind of understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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