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6 minutes ago, krunk said:

We were kind of stuck because Pittman was hemmed up and Pierce was non productive.  The only thing we really had was a few tight end throws and running Taylor.  We can't repeat this again!  Receiving corps has to be addressed  bc Pierce isn't the answer.

We need something more dynamic to go along with Pittman and Downs.

I don't know how to feel about Pierce since Minshew hardly looked his way when he was wide open, but I agree that he's limited in what he offers at this point. I wouldn't cut him by any means, but I also wouldn't pass up the opportunity to draft his replacement either.

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What was wrong with the call?  He was open. Minshew rushed the throw. 

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The fourth down isn't even what made me mad. That bull crap drive the Texans had on their last TD drive was worse. 2nd and 20 converted. 1st and 20 converted on a throwaway. A dime to Collins while ge

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Bottom line is: Minshew is a back up.   4 & 1 with AR, do you think we will need to pass? I like the future, we will be the team to beat in this division

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The colts do have a good amount of talent on the team. How else would they have the record they do with a very limited backup qb all year. Where would any of the top teams be without their starting qb? Probably with about the same record as the colts. I do not want the colts to sign gm. I would rather draft a qb to be the backup and play if Richardson gets hurt again and might be a possible replacement if he can’t keep from getting hurt. I also wouldn’t give Pittman a #1 receiver money because he isn’t. I would draft 2 lb’s as high as needed. I like speed, but I don’t like Franklin at all and need two. I know this won’t be popular, but I would trade Taylor to get rid of the contract. I just don’t think he looks like the same player. I think moss hits the hole faster, like Taylor used to. Moss was getting big runs tonight on very limited chances and has shown it all year. 
 

disappointing in the end, but a good year and looking forward to next year. Hoping Richardson is as good as people think he will be.

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8 minutes ago, KB said:

I will say, I've been a Ballard supporter, but this is his final shot at an offseason. We need a significant amount of success next year. I'm not saying super bowl or bust,  but I'm expecting to get to the divisional round of the playoffs. If not, then it's time to move on.

i think QB play is the difference  between this team being 9-8 or being 11-5 or better .   we saw it when manning went down where the same roster that played in the super bowl went 2-14 with a back up QB .  if we can get another weapon for richardson and he can get to the point where he can get close to 30 touchdowns a year we would be a good team .

 

the defense would look so much better if they werent on the field so much from minshew going 3 and out and being horrible on third down . 

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15 minutes ago, Two_pound said:

As the timeout unfolded on that 4th and 1 I said, "it will either be a run stuffed in the backfield or a dropped pass". I saw Goodson wide open heading out to the left, the pass should have been caught but it was a bad throw. What is also pathetic that I haven't seen anyone mention yet is Taylor went out of bounds TWICE so Houston could save their timeouts. Even if we had punched it in there there would have been lot's of time left on the clock for Houston to kick a field goal as time expired. Then this forum would really be exploding about Bradley's SOFT and CUSHY defense!!

I called out Taylor in the game thread after both of those runs. He should have turned it inside both times instead of going outside…not because of the time but because he easily could have had first down yardage especially on the 2nd of those runs had he just turned back inside instead of outside. 

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The colts do have a good amount of talent on the team. How else would they have the record they do with a very limited backup qb all year. Where would any of the top teams be without their starting qb? Probably with about the same record as the colts. I do not want the colts to sign gm. I would rather draft a qb to be the backup and play if Richardson gets hurt again and might be a possible replacement if he can’t keep from getting hurt. I also wouldn’t give Pittman a #1 receiver money because he isn’t. I would draft 2 lb’s as high as needed. I like speed, but I don’t like Franklin at all and need two. I know this won’t be popular, but I would trade Taylor to get rid of the contract. I just don’t think he looks like the same player. I think moss hits the hole faster, like Taylor used to. Moss was getting big runs tonight on very limited chances and has shown it all year. 
 

disappointing in the end, but a good year and looking forward to next year. Hoping Richardson is as good as people think he will be.

 

Because there are a lot more bad teams, than good teams this season. 

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That long FG would've been great to have. Gay hit the cross bar a few times this year.

 

That Mo drop was tough on one drive and Minshew missed that Mo TD pass that landed a couple yards in from of him.

 

Sucks because we had some opportunities that didn't go our way.

 

And the 75 yard opening TD was a one in a million breakdown that of course happens to us... Sucks ..

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We got to add some real dynamic talent at WR next year for sure.   If you expect Houston to trot out the same WR corps again you aren't living in reality.  Once you line Stroud up with some real WR and a real RB we got problems for a good while.  We need to get our artillery right because it's not getting any easier.

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We got to add some real dynamic talent at WR next year for sure.   If you expect Houston to trot out the same WR corps again you aren't living in reality.  Once you line Stroud up with some real WR and a real RB we got problems for a good while.  We need to get our artillery right because it's not getting any easier.

Adding more play makers is wlwsys a good thing. But just having Richardson back will make a huge difference and all these guys will be better.

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23 minutes ago, Two_pound said:

As the timeout unfolded on that 4th and 1 I said, "it will either be a run stuffed in the backfield or a dropped pass". I saw Goodson wide open heading out to the left, the pass should have been caught but it was a bad throw. What is also pathetic that I haven't seen anyone mention yet is Taylor went out of bounds TWICE so Houston could save their timeouts. Even if we had punched it in there there would have been lot's of time left on the clock for Houston to kick a field goal as time expired. Then this forum would really be exploding about Bradley's SOFT and CUSHY defense!!

it was dumb he did it twice! I concur

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3 minutes ago, Happy2BeHere said:

I called out Taylor in the game thread after both of those runs. He should have turned it inside both times instead of going outside…not because of the time but because he easily could have had first down yardage especially on the 2nd of those runs had he just turned back inside instead of outside. 

I’m with you 100 percent. I just don’t understand either of those runs. Especially on the second one — as I’m watching it I know it’s going to be a first down and then he just trots out of bounds way short. Mind boggling. 

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10 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

No we need a new DC and a overhaul of the secondary.

i think the safeties are bad but the rookie corners showed some promise .  look up jones grades in coverage he was really good and brents showed flashes .  those two will improve  its the safeties that played bad all year except blackmon

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I don’t want Texans winning the division. I want to see them going to Buffalo or KC and get cooked.

the texans would face the browns if they win the division . flacco will shred that defense and the browns have the number 1 defense

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3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I don’t want Texans winning the division. I want to see them going to Buffalo or KC and get cooked.

 

Why? I like the Texans and Stroud better than those Duuuvvvall guys. Stroud doesn't make many mistakes and he is years ahead of TLaw as a rookie. I like watching Stroud play better than watching TLaw play. Stroud makes guys like Nico Collins, who would be a journeyman with other QBs. TLaw has far more pass catching talent than Stroud too, thanks to Khan opening up his wallet. You must have a bias there.

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Why? I like the Texans and Stroud better than those Duuuvvvall guys. Stroud doesn't make many mistakes and he is years ahead of TLaw as a rookie. I like watching Stroud play better than watching TLaw play. Stroud makes guys like Nico Collins, who would be a journeyman with other QBs. TLaw has far more pass catching talent than Stroud too, thanks to Khan opening up his wallet. You must have a bias there.

What is it with liking division rivals. These are guys we are going to have to crush in the future.

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18 minutes ago, krunk said:

We were kind of stuck because Pittman was hemmed up and Pierce was non productive.  The only thing we really had was a few tight end throws and running Taylor.  We can't repeat this again!  Receiving corps has to be addressed  bc Pierce isn't the answer.

We need something more dynamic to go along with Pittman and Downs.


pierce was wide open for a td at the beginning of the game and Troy aikman pointed out another time he had single coverage deep and that’s a pass that qb’s usually take a shot with. He also said gm needs to take some shots with him beep against a secondary that gives up a lot of long plays. Gm just doesn’t do it, that’s not pierce’s fault!

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And it's true...

 

All those years, we admired how Brady hit Welker in stride, Edelman in stride, James White in stride at the right height etc. and when you watch the lesser QBs, you can tell the differences easily. 

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Have they corrected JuJu Brents’ injury report yet? It wasn’t a hamstring — dude came down with a bad case of Nico Collins-itis after Nico had torched him for 100 yards on two targets. JuJu decided to show himself out. 

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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

What is it with liking division rivals. These are guys we are going to have to crush in the future.

 

I am a fan of football too. What is it with you liking the Jaguars over the Texans? That is what I would like to know. That is not liking division rivals?? Haha!!! Listen to yourself.

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I think Steichen was as disappointed with Minshew this season as I’ve been. He was just so limited, and he played like 2021 Carson Wentz against the raiders with the playoffs on the line. Overthrowing or flat out missing open receivers. Not making “gimmes” as Ballard put it back then. 1-11 on third down is not a team problem. It’s a qb problem. 

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That’s the second quarter not the failed play.

Yeah I was gonna say no way would your coach say that after losing the game that blatant on TV.

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16 minutes ago, husker61 said:

The colts do have a good amount of talent on the team. How else would they have the record they do with a very limited backup qb all year. Where would any of the top teams be without their starting qb? Probably with about the same record as the colts. I do not want the colts to sign gm. I would rather draft a qb to be the backup and play if Richardson gets hurt again and might be a possible replacement if he can’t keep from getting hurt. I also wouldn’t give Pittman a #1 receiver money because he isn’t. I would draft 2 lb’s as high as needed. I like speed, but I don’t like Franklin at all and need two. I know this won’t be popular, but I would trade Taylor to get rid of the contract. I just don’t think he looks like the same player. I think moss hits the hole faster, like Taylor used to. Moss was getting big runs tonight on very limited chances and has shown it all year. 
 

disappointing in the end, but a good year and looking forward to next year. Hoping Richardson is as good as people think he will be.

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8 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I don’t want Texans winning the division. I want to see them going to Buffalo or KC and get cooked.

Well Im out here in Houston so if Colts are eliminated then I automatically have to switch and route for the home team. LOL!

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1 minute ago, ColtStrong2013 said:


I think Steichen was as disappointed with Minshew this season as I’ve been. He was just so limited, and he played like 2021 Carson Wentz against the raiders with the playoffs on the line. Overthrowing or flat out missing open receivers. Not making “gimmes” as Ballard put it back then. 1-11 on third down is not a team problem. It’s a qb problem. 

 

Yeah, that is why people need to maintain perspective. Minshew's backup QB tendencies showed up on and off, and unfortunately this time at an inopportune moment, IMO. So he exceeds the bar of expectations sometimes but also lowers the bar, something you have to live with as a backup QB but an outstanding one for us.

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The colts do have a good amount of talent on the team. How else would they have the record they do with a very limited backup qb all year. Where would any of the top teams be without their starting qb? Probably with about the same record as the colts. I do not want the colts to sign gm. I would rather draft a qb to be the backup and play if Richardson gets hurt again and might be a possible replacement if he can’t keep from getting hurt. I also wouldn’t give Pittman a #1 receiver money because he isn’t. I would draft 2 lb’s as high as needed. I like speed, but I don’t like Franklin at all and need two. I know this won’t be popular, but I would trade Taylor to get rid of the contract. I just don’t think he looks like the same player. I think moss hits the hole faster, like Taylor used to. Moss was getting big runs tonight on very limited chances and has shown it all year. 
 

disappointing in the end, but a good year and looking forward to next year. Hoping Richardson is as good as people think he will be.

Dude, we’re not getting rid of 28. We’re also not drafting 2 ILB with our top picks. We need still need WR depth. 

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Only four teams are giving up more points a game than the Colts. 

 

This is ONE of the MAIN problems!!! Quit SETTLING on these old retread coaches that's been fired at multiple stops. It's too easy to attack this basic soft zone defense! The team sack record means nothing because most came against some awfully BAD offenses this season. They can't make stops when it matters. I've seen them on a NUMEROUS of occasions get a sack then turnaround on the very NEXT play and give up a 20 yd or more play.

 

Coming into this game with Dell and Brown out the only receiving option for Stroud was Nico Collins who MOST dcs would've doubled but NO he hit the Colts for nearly 200 yds!!! Are you kinding me? How about that WIDE OPEN td pass to the little used Beck for the Texans? I hope this is the END of the Gus era as dc. I saw ENOUGH last season with some HISTORIC collapses and that was WITH Gilmore and Rodgers at corner. 

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Davis (Illinois) - The New Mexico Lobos ran a zone-scheme concept 318 times in 2023 and Davis was on the field for 316 of those snaps where he helped the team earn a 91.5 rushing grade with 58 explosive runs.  Davis is well-rounded earning a 78.6 inside-zone run grade and a 78.4 outside-zone run grade.  See how well Davis does after transferring the Big 10 this season.  Overall, 82.4 run-blocking grade in 2023.  Comparison Illinois Isaiah Adams was drafted #71 by Arizona and was ranked 8th best zone OL in 2023 and Davis was 5th best.  In 2022 Davis earned a 66.8 overall PFF grade and in 2023 had an 87.1 pass-blocking grade.  If the Colts do trade/cap release Braden Smith than Davis is a high target to hopefully take early to replace him.   Round 4 TE Jalin Conyers (Texas Tech) - In 2022 Conyers forced 21 missed tackles which led all TEs in the country.  Plus, ranked 4th in receiving yards after contact (170).  As a redshirt freshman in 2021 had a 73.5 pass-blocking grade while playing at Arizona State.  Conyers can be elusive with the ball in his hands.  In his first season was used heavily as a run-blocker (2021) and excelled as a blocker ranking him 4th in the Pac-12.  Back in August 2023 Rick Spielman said he may be the best run-blocking TE in the class behind Cade Stover.  Considered a true Y TE efficient at run-blocking and can catch with run-after ability.  Spielman said last year would have had a Late Day 2 grade, while Ryan Wilson says Rounds 3-4.  Potential to be a red zone monster in the NFL if he continues to grow his game.  Last year Round 4 was where tight ends were drafted and expect the same again in 2025.  Replaces Mo Alie-Cox.   Round 5 Edge/RDE Anton Juncaj (Arkansas) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team while at Albany.  2022 PFF grade of 75.1.  2023 final defense grade of 91.3, run defense 87.4, pass rush 90.6 and 68.5 coverage grade and racked up 55 tackles (34 solo), 21.5 TFL, 15 sacks, 3 PD and forced 5 fumbles.  Key matchups against RB Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma St) the Reigning Doak Walker Award Winner from 2023 and projected first rounder LT Kelvin Banks Jr (Texas).   Round 6 Rover/SLB-SAF Justin Barron (Syracuse) - 2023 College Football All-ACC Team.  Defensive Captain. 6’4” 231 pounds had 0.5 sacks, 3 *, 1 FR, 1 INT, and 8 PDs in 2023 (81.4 PFF grade).  In 2022 had 64 tackles and 5 TFLs.  Reminds me of Jaylon Carlies whom the Colts just drafted in Round 5P151.  Key matchup versus Cal and RB Jayden Ott.  WR Eric Singleton Jr (Georgia Tech), WR Kevin Concepcion (NC State), WR-X Ricky White (UNLV), RB Desmond Reid, TE Justin Joly (UConn).  Solid in zone coverage.   Round 7 SS Mishael Powell Miami (FL) – Powell transferred from Washington.  In Week 8 he clocked 21.0 mph.  In 876 snaps in 2023 Powell played 477 in the slot, 165 in the box, and 122 at FS finishing with a strong 73.9 coverage and 69 defensive grades.   Potential UDFAs ·         QB KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) - 2023 PFF TOW 2 honors ·         R3-UDFA RT Jalen Travis (Iowa State) 6’7” 310 pounds - While at Princeton finished with an overall 80.7 PFF Grade and 9th best OT in D1 (89% pass blocking and 75% run blocking grades). – Much like OT Tyler McLellan (Campbell) signed with Chargers, project to UDFA in 2025.  See how he does at Iowa State against better competition as he graded slightly behind Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) who was drafted in Round 3 P11 by the Bears in 2024 NFL draft.  Listed as backup behind Tyler Miller. ·         LT Adam Karas (Air Force) - After 9 weeks Karas has an 83.9 run-blocking grade and an overall PFF grade of 87.4.  Overall, 86.3 PFF grade with just one penalty and 1 QB hurry on 296 total snaps.  Decent height 6’4” ·         RT Josh Fryar (OSU) - 2023 earned college football midseason all-America Honorable Mention.  Fryar finished 2023 with a 70.8 overall PFF grade.  Great height 6’6”.  Finished with a 70.8 PFF grade.  Gave up a team high 5 sacks but did earn a 77.2 run blocking grade and a 71.2 pass blocking grade. ·         LG Rush Reimer (Cal) – In 2023 Reimer earned first-team All-Big Sky Conference at LG with an overall 75.8 PFF Grade (D1-T8) at Montana State.  See how he does against better CFB competition.  Project goes UDFA much like Jake Kubas (7) (NY Giants), Ross Palmer (3), and (2) Donny Ventrelli (Bears).  Could be the next Mason McCormick (6) drafted by the Steelers P119 in the 2024 NFL draft.  Montana State used a lot of Inside Zone runs.  Cal has Reimer listed as backup LT for 2024. ·         RT/OG Grey Zabel (North Dakota State) 6’6” 296 pounds.  Zabel finished 2023 with an overall 79.3 PFF Grade as an OG.  Finished 10th among other listed tackles last season.  As a guard would have been 4th best D1.  Zabel started all 15 games in 2023 with 3 at guard and 12 at RT. ·         RB Harrison Waylee (Wyoming) – In 2023 clocked 21.8 mph in Week 4 T18 fastest player. ·         RB/KR Lan Larison (UC Davis) finished 2023 tied 7th overall FCS RB with an overall 89.2 PFF Grade (R5) in D1.  On 178 carries rushed for 1101 yards scoring 13 TDS while adding two more through the air on 21 REC for 198 yards.  Larison was the 2023 Big Sky Offensive Player of the Year.  In 2021 averaged 29.91 yards as a kick returner and 21.9 yards in 2022. ·         SWR/RB/KR/PR Chris Tyree (ND) 4.29s-forty speed excellent 3.95s shuttle (HS) and 38” vertical (HS).  In 2023 Week 9 clocked 21.0 mph. ·         WRX/Z Bo Belquist (North Dakota) 2023 overall 88.6 PFF Grade.  For D1 graded out as one of the top 10 WRs behind Hayden Hatten 86.1 whom the Seahawks added as an UDFA. ·         SWR Jacob De Jesus (UNLV) – best PR/KR #3 in PR and #13 in KR.  De Jesus was a top nomination to win the Jet Award in 2023 who was given to Zachariah Branch (USC). ·         WR-X Dymere Miller (Rutgers) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team with Monmouth.  Miller finished as the best receiver (D1) in 2023 with a 92.3 PFF grade (only behind Nabers).  Monmouth ran an inside zone with three different concepts in its base A gap zone.  Also pinched in as a kickoff returner with success (13.67 and 12.5 avgs). ·         WR Isaac TeSlaa (Arkansas) – Great Midwest American Conference Offensive Player of the Year in 2022 and received Honorable Mention All-American.  Strengths are ball tracking, hands, athleticism, 50/50 extraordinaire. ·         LEdge Aaron Lewis (Rutgers) - 2022 PFF Weeks 6 and 12 honors.  A disappointing 2023 season compared to 2022 grading 10 points lower.  (75.9 in 2023 compared to 85.5 in 2022).  Poor run-defense grade of 59.8 but was still an elite pass rusher.  His 91.5 pass-rushing grade since 2022 ranks 10th among all FBS edge defenders and his 18.7% pass-rush win rate places 11th in Power Five.  Needs to improve his run game. ·         Jack OLB/RDE Steve Linton (Baylor) – Linton transferred to Baylor from Texas Tech.  Injury prone, in 2023 suffered a broken thumb in August, sprained ankle in Big 12 opener vs West Virginia, aggravated it the following week then missed the last four games of regular season with back problems.  72% tackling, 88% pass rush, 61% run defense, 72% coverage.  Decent 4.62s-forty speed and 6’5” 235 pounds. ·         NCB Yam Banks (Ole’ Miss) - Made 2022 PFF College All-America Second Team while playing at South Alabama.  For 2024 listed as backup.  In 2022 Banks was a first-team All-Sun Belt pick and third team in 2023.  In 45 games, Banks racked up 147 TOT, 7 INT (6 in 2022 T3 in nation). ·         LCB Tommi Hill (Nebraska) – 4.55s forty speed.  In 2023 had an outstanding QB rating when targeted of 38.6.  With another solid year Hill could move up.  ·         FS Saiku White (Lafayette) - In 2023 White moved from SS to FS and had a career year with a final 2023 defense grade 91.4 best for 2nd, pass rush grade 74.4, a 90.7 coverage grade 4th best, and an 80.7 run defense grade 98th.   Team Captain. Achieved a 3.75 GPA in 2023. ·         LS Byron Floyd (PITT) – Floyds 81.7 grade this season leads all FBS LS.  Of his 41 LS on both punts/kicks only one has been charted as off-target.  Does have ties to Colts new DL coach.  Luke Rhodes, age 32, signed a 4-year contract extension on 09/23.  ·         LS Nick Barcelos (Nevada) - 2023 college football midseason all-America Second Team as a long snapper – Luke Rhodes signed a 4-year extension with the Colts September 8th, 2023.

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