BProland's Updated Colts Mock

[BProland85]

With nothing going on in sports right now, I figured I'd make an updated Colts mock before Free Agency begins.

 

Trade - Indy trades 13th overall pick to Dallas for their 1st, 2nd, 4th round picks. 

 

Round 1 Pick 17 (DAL): Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
Round 2 Pick 2: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
Round 2 Pick 12: Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
Round 3 Pick 11: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma 
Round 4 Pick 16: Alton Robinson, DE, Syracuse 
Round 4 Pick 17 (DAL): Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
Round 5 Pick 14: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida 
Round 6 Pick 14: Shaadiq Charles, OG/T, LSU 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I actually like that. I might take Gordon instead of Hurts though.

[indyagent17]

6 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

With nothing going on in sports right now, I figured I'd make an updated Colts mock before Free Agency begins.

 

Trade - Indy trades 13th overall pick to Dallas for their 1st, 2nd, 4th round picks. 

 

Round 1 Pick 17 (DAL): Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
Round 2 Pick 2: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
Round 2 Pick 12: Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
Round 3 Pick 11: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma 
Round 4 Pick 16: Alton Robinson, DE, Syracuse 
Round 4 Pick 17 (DAL): Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
Round 5 Pick 14: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida 
Round 6 Pick 14: Shaadiq Charles, OG/T, LSU 

Do the trade numbers work for that trade? it seems like the trade value is not enough for a 4 place trade down and their 2nd and 4th 

[Hark]

If the numbers work on the trade, this would be a fantastic haul

[richard pallo]

5 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

Do the trade numbers work for that trade? it seems like the trade value is not enough for a 4 place trade down and their 2nd and 4th 

It actually works easily without their 4th. 

[pacolts56]

Nice job.... you intersected value and need very well.

 

And I’m good with either Hurts or Gordon in the 3rd.

[Fluke_33]

I’d be very happy with this.  Would the Indy paper headline say “Love Hurts”?

[Mr.NotSoCreative]

Lick, stamp, mail it in.

[Dark Superman]

Good mock.

[FalseStart]

1 hour ago, Fluke_33 said:

I’d be very happy with this.  Would the Indy paper headline say “Love Hurts

1 hour ago, Fluke_33 said:

I’d be very happy with this.  Would the Indy paper headline say “Love Hurts”?

Tua for the price of Gordon...It Hurts me to say it...

[Gigc]

who's Dallas trading up for? and are any of Love or Herbert still there at 13?

is Eason there at 34?

[aaron11]

That's extremely optimistic to think one of jacoby, hurts or Kelly are the answer.

[NewColtsFan]

For trading down...   we won’t get a 1, 2, and 4 from Dallas.   Way too much.

 

The trade value chart says a 1, 3, and 5.

 

Are you still interested?   

[coltsfanej]

I like it a lot. I'm not sold on Hurts, but if he ended up being good this would be a killer draft

[MikeCurtis]

I like Kinlaw and Cleveland picks

 

I love Kinlaw, if he is still on the board. Cleveland appears to just need some development time and he could be our LT for the next few years

 

I also like Gordon 10x times better than Hurts.....

 

But..... the premise of the trade from THE CHART 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_trade_value.htm

Says that the Cowboy person that did this trade made a huge mistake

 

The Colts pick is worth 1150

The Cowboys pick is worth 950

The Cowboys 2nd is worth 390

The Cowboys 3rd is worth 180

The Cowboys 4th is worth 123

 

I don’t see the Cowboys giving up 1643 to get 1150

 

I HOPE they do...... but don’t see it

 

Per the math we could get the 3rd round pick

 

OR..... a 2nd next year and a 4th this year

(That sounds like CB)

[EastStreet]

I think it's a little bit unrealistic, but I'd love it if it were paired with Carr or Rivers.

 

The more realistic trade would be 13 for 17 + 82 (3rd) + 123 (4th). The value for 13 is 1150, while the 17/82/123 is 1179 (-29pts or -2.46%). That said, teams give up more than they need to all the time, and it has to be "worth" it for the team approached to give up whatever might be there at 13. 

[funktacious2]

19 hours ago, BProland85 said:

With nothing going on in sports right now, I figured I'd make an updated Colts mock before Free Agency begins.

 

Trade - Indy trades 13th overall pick to Dallas for their 1st, 2nd, 4th round picks. 

 

Round 1 Pick 17 (DAL): Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
Round 2 Pick 2: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
Round 2 Pick 12: Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State
Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
Round 3 Pick 11: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma 
Round 4 Pick 16: Alton Robinson, DE, Syracuse 
Round 4 Pick 17 (DAL): Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
Round 5 Pick 14: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida 
Round 6 Pick 14: Shaadiq Charles, OG/T, LSU 

My favorite mock all offseason. This would be fire. Hurts at 3 is a moderate risk, high reward. But the rest of the talent we get would be amazing. DT solved. WR solved, OT of the future solved. Receiving TE solved. Developmental QB solved. Excellent job. My biggest nitpick though is that I think Jefferson will be a 1st rounder. I think Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs, Shenault, Jefferson all go, with Mims as a 60ish percent chance of going as well, IMO. Either way we could still possibly walk away with Mims or Claypool with Jefferson gone, so not much has to change.

[funktacious2]

16 hours ago, aaron11 said:

That's extremely optimistic to think one of jacoby, hurts or Kelly are the answer.

For the price of a 3rd rounder that's not a big deal. Look at how much the rest of the roster will improve even if none of those QBs work out. Yes, we may be back here in 1-3 years needing a QB but our roster will probably still be in a good if not better spot.

[aaron11]

6 minutes ago, funktacious2 said:

For the price of a 3rd rounder that's not a big deal. Look at how much the rest of the roster will improve even if none of those QBs work out. Yes, we may be back here in 1-3 years needing a QB but our roster will probably still be in a good if not better spot.

i think we would win more games with a better qb than d line.  dont see hurts being any better than kelly either 

[funktacious2]

52 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

i think we would win more games with a better qb than d line.  dont see hurts being any better than kelly either 

If that QB is above average and available at 13 I agree. But neither may be the case at 13. I'm on record on being happy with a number of outcomes, some which include taking a chance on Herbert or Love. But this route is safe and practical if other teams take Herbert and Love and we don't think they're worth trading up for. 

[LockeDown]

Who is Dallas moving up for?

[coltsfanmurf]

On 3/14/2020 at 5:30 PM, MikeCurtis said:

I like Kinlaw and Cleveland picks

 

I love Kinlaw, if he is still on the board. Cleveland appears to just need some development time and he could be our LT for the next few years

 

I also like Gordon 10x times better than Hurts.....

 

But..... the premise of the trade from THE CHART 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_trade_value.htm

Says that the Cowboy person that did this trade made a huge mistake

 

The Colts pick is worth 1150

The Cowboys pick is worth 950

The Cowboys 2nd is worth 390

The Cowboys 3rd is worth 180

The Cowboys 4th is worth 123

 

I don’t see the Cowboys giving up 1643 to get 1150

 

I HOPE they do...... but don’t see it

 

Per the math we could get the 3rd round pick

 

OR..... a 2nd next year and a 4th this year

(That sounds like CB)

 

In the OP trade proposal, we wouldn't be getting the 3rd.  It said 1st, 2nd & 4th so it would only be 1463.  I am thinking Dallas would offer 1st, 3rd & 4th at best.  That would be Colts 1150 to Dallas 1253.

[MikeCurtis]

23 hours ago, LockeDown said:

Who is Dallas moving up for?

THIS......

 

I like Kinlaw, I like the out of the box thinking...... but....

 

To get the trade..... Dallas would REALLY have to like someone...

 

If they lose Cooper, I could see them moving up for Lamb....

[MikeCurtis]

9 hours ago, coltsfanmurf said:

 

In the OP trade proposal, we wouldn't be getting the 3rd.  It said 1st, 2nd & 4th so it would only be 1463.  I am thinking Dallas would offer 1st, 3rd & 4th at best.  That would be Colts 1150 to Dallas 1253.

Oops....

 

Sorry OP....

 

This math makes it closer......