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By Jared Cisneros · Posted
You are probably right, but I'll give a counter-argument for the other side. 1.) Even though you could point to evidence that Irsay has been patient with Coaches and GMs in the past, it's a little different today. In 2015-2017 (the point you could start arguing that Grigson and Pagano weren't working out) we were still less than 10 years removed from a SB win, 6-8 years from a SB appearance, and we had Andrew Luck to piggyback off of where there was still a lot of hope at that time. 2.) Ballard and Reich have applied band-aid QBs since 2019 after Luck retired. No effort has been made yet to draft a franchise QB. The only effort at a long-term QB was Wentz. We have had a few opportunities to try and move up for a QB. Could of done it for Tua and Herbert in 2020. Could of also done it for Fields or Mac Jones in 2021 if we would of beat the Bears trade offer. 3.) This is something that isn't added to this discussion a lot, but Irsay is now 63 years old. He hasn't won a SB since he was 47. He hasn't made one since he was 50. Patience eventually runs out. Patience turns to impatience as you get older and more desperate. Although we have a good team right now, our future is uncertain once Matt Ryan leaves in 2 years. The best we can say right now is we have a decent shot with a 37 year old Matt Ryan. After that, we are in QB purgatory again unless we fill it with another band-aid, or draft one in the first round (most likely). 4.) Ballard and Reich haven't done a whole lot to contend over the last 4-5 years. Ballard has built a strong team besides the QB, but Reich has really hurt this team, both in coaching and non-coaching ways. He's likely to be the fall guy if we miss the playoffs. 5.) Finally, look at the beginning of the schedule. Texans, Jaguars (in Jax), Chiefs, Titans. If we start out 1-3 or worse and one of those losses is in Jax again, that could be the boiling point for Irsay. You saw how it affected him when we lost in Jax last year at the end of the year. He is aware we haven't beat them in Jax since 2014. Irsay is aware of the slow starts we've had. If we do it again, there's an outside chance Reich could get fired at the quarter point or the midway point of the season. If we miss the playoffs, I'd bet money Reich is gone at the end of the season. -
I hope DB is right and we’ll see them in the backfield more. Any defense is only as good as the D-line let’s it be. -
I have a feeling if Bradley can't make his scheme work in Indy it's just passé - the NFL moved on and know how to beat it. I, of course, hope that isn't the case and we'll get the next Legion of Boom or something close to it, but Bradley has something to prove in my opinion. -
By RollerColt · Posted
Yeah, the Browns ahead of us is laughable. But again a lot of people seem to see them getting Watson as a genius move. I’m not convinced. -
By 2006Coltsbestever · Posted
Les Snead should be #1. The way he and his team manipulates the cap. I have never seen anything like it since watching football + it got them a SB. I have us at #10 = top 10. Ballard along with Irsay belong in the top 10, it should not even be a debate. I like our Front office better than the Browns. Browns are a mess right now. Watson is about to be suspended for the year and they did Baker dirty. How they are ranked above us is puzzling. I would have the 49ers and Lynch higher than them.
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