ALL BLUE Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Why was Varga put on IR for a Concussion? Just a way of protecting him for next year without using a roster spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Who knows. I liked him, but I doubt he'll even be on the roster next year. I think we'll draft a RB pretty early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMeDy Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I think it was to protect the other teams. Grigson was concerned he would kill someone on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Loved this kid way more than Robinson. Shame he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALL BLUE Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 He showed potential hope he gets a chance next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, COLTS449 said: Who knows. I liked him, but I doubt he'll even be on the roster next year. I think we'll draft a RB pretty early. I liked him better than Robinson, by far. It's not a popular opinion but I'd be very happy if we took Zeke Elliott. He would be Luck's Edge for the next ten years. He has all the tools to be a three down RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I hope we draft Perkins or Booker in the 3rd or 4th round. And have a RB stable of..... Gore Perkins/Booker Varga Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALL BLUE Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Smonroe said: I liked him better than Robinson, by far. It's not a popular opinion but I'd be very happy if we took Zeke Elliott. He would be Luck's Edge for the next ten years. He has all the tools to be a three down RB. I agree it would be great,but need so much more just don't no about the priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAFHoosier Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think Varga could be very valuable in the future. Showed good hands, can make people miss in the open field, and ran very hard up the middle. Plus he can play fullback. The potential is their but all NFL backs have potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS Coltsfan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 15 minutes ago, Smonroe said: I liked him better than Robinson, by far. It's not a popular opinion but I'd be very happy if we took Zeke Elliott. He would be Luck's Edge for the next ten years. He has all the tools to be a three down RB. I like Zeke, but IMO if we do not get a center or RG in FA.... can't go RB in the 1st our needs are too much... as we stand now I say we go Pass pusher in 1st and Center in 2nd....wouldn't mind trading back to the top of the second and grabbing more picks and getting a PR and C.. in the 2nd... the new DC/:LB coaches may have deifferent views once there in and look at what we have... I have several mock drafts giving Zeke to us, but all that talent won't be seen in the line we have now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You guys are probably right, we have roo many needs to go RB at one. And, cards on the table, I'm looking at it through Scarlett and Grey glasses. I really think he's special, as in Edge special, and I'd hate to see him elsewhere. To make matters worse, some mocks have him going to the Texans who just releases Foster. Im not sure that there's a OLB at our pick that's a real playmaker. Certainly no Olineman is worth it there. Maybe a CB. Anyway, just MHO (that I'll be tweeting to Irsay a couple hundred times in a few months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 There are several OL worth it IMO.... look no further than your Buckeyes OT..... As for Defense, again.... look to your Buck Nuts..... or Jaylon Smith..... Hell, I'd almost take OL Jason Spriggs out of IU at 18, especially if we are going to a Zone Blocking Scheme.... he's athletic as hell for a RT.... ideally you could trade back a bit and get him, but if he's your man, I'd take him at 18 no problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, CS Coltsfan said: I like Zeke, but IMO if we do not get a center or RG in FA.... can't go RB in the 1st our needs are too much... as we stand now I say we go Pass pusher in 1st and Center in 2nd....wouldn't mind trading back to the top of the second and grabbing more picks and getting a PR and C.. in the 2nd... the new DC/:LB coaches may have deifferent views once there in and look at what we have... I have several mock drafts giving Zeke to us, but all that talent won't be seen in the line we have now... Last year there were a crap ton of mocks mocking Melvin Gordon to us. Some even Gurley. With that said I think Elliott will be better than Gordon. I still don't want us to draft him in the 1st, though. IMO we have to go Defense in the 1st round, and if we sign a Center and Guard in free agency we need to go Defense in the 2nd too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 32 minutes ago, Shafty138 said: There are several OL worth it IMO.... look no further than your Buckeyes OT..... As for Defense, again.... look to your Buck Nuts..... or Jaylon Smith..... Hell, I'd almost take OL Jason Spriggs out of IU at 18, especially if we are going to a Zone Blocking Scheme.... he's athletic as hell for a RT.... ideally you could trade back a bit and get him, but if he's your man, I'd take him at 18 no problem.... But wouldnt you want to get that flashy new car instead? Again, it's just my opinion but my logic is that there's going to be a guy available in the second round that isn't that far off from the first round at every position of need except RB. And RB IS a position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 There is a pretty large dropoff after Elliott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 As for Flashy New Cars....to take the analogy a bit further, Fans don't like the payments.... we just got a little sports car from a Miami Dealership, and everyone hates it, it's been hard to keep running at top performance, and they really wanted the Chevy Pickup to do the heavy lifting with back in April, hindsight being 20/20..... Except me, personally I'm willing to put in the time and effort to get enjoyment out of the new high-performance Dorsett coupe we already have at WR, I mean, it's only a 2015 model...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harden Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Varga is our dude! Need to give him a chance to shine. The guy is only 22 and can ball. There should be no reason to go after a RB until the 6th round unless we are replacing Gore or Robinson. I believe our RB trio should be Gore,Varga, and Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, Shafty138 said: As for Flashy New Cars....to take the analogy a bit further, Fans don't like the payments.... we just got a little sports car from a Miami Dealership, and everyone hates it, it's been hard to keep running at top performance, and they really wanted the Chevy Pickup to do the heavy lifting with back in April, hindsight being 20/20..... Except me, personally I'm willing to put in the time and effort to get enjoyment out of the new high-performance Dorsett coupe we already have at WR, I mean, it's only a 2015 model...... My analogy was we were the guy with a three year old Vette but kept it in a garage with a huge hole in the roof. But instead of fixing the roof, we bought a brand new Vette to park next to the other one. Can't drive either one if the roof caves in on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 3 hours ago, ALL BLUE said: Why was Varga put on IR for a Concussion? Just a way of protecting him for next year without using a roster spot? i dont understand this nore do i think it is what we will do, we a couple secondary players a few oline and pass rush before we need a RB, i would be choked if we drafted one early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 25 minutes ago, Shafty138 said: There is a pretty large dropoff after Elliott However, there is a pretty high ceiling at RB next year compared to Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 3 hours ago, COLTS449 said: Who knows. I liked him, but I doubt he'll even be on the roster next year. I think we'll draft a RB pretty early. I'm not sure it's clear that we'll draft a running back at all.... And if we do, I'm not sure it will be early..... There's always free agency.... late picks.... or un-drafted free agents.... If we're going to use a high pick on a running back, then 2017 is the year to do it, not 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 30 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: I'm not sure it's clear that we'll draft a running back at all.... And if we do, I'm not sure it will be early..... There's always free agency.... late picks.... or un-drafted free agents.... If we're going to use a high pick on a running back, then 2017 is the year to do it, not 2016. You could be right and its too early to know yet really. But my thought was Gore's getting older and has a greater chance of getting injured because of it. I think Grigs will want to bring in the back of the future to pair with Gore and as an insurance policy so to speak. I'd hate to have Robinson and Varga as our main backs if Gore were to go down early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think I'd be fine with Varga, then Robinson if our Line was fixed, and Andrew was healthy for a few games if Frank was hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peytonator Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 6 hours ago, Smonroe said: I liked him better than Robinson, by far. It's not a popular opinion but I'd be very happy if we took Zeke Elliott. He would be Luck's Edge for the next ten years. He has all the tools to be a three down RB. Your OSU homerism is showing. ;) He'll have a great career but I wouldn't draft him at our spot, based solely on the position he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmort Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If Grigson drafts ANY rb in the 1st he should be fired on the spot. I can't believe anyone who has watched the Colts and knows the roster would support such a horrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 6 hours ago, COLTS449 said: I hope we draft Perkins or Booker in the 3rd or 4th round. And have a RB stable of..... Gore Perkins/Booker Varga Williams Who's Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, The Peytonator said: Your OSU homerism is showing. ;) He'll have a great career but I wouldn't draft him at our spot, based solely on the position he plays. I would love the pick and I'm not even an OSU fan. Zeke will be a stud in the NFL almost for certain. He's one of the few rbs that should be taken in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samu-Rye Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm usually one of the guys mad about picks like Elliot, in the first. But I have to admit that i would like the pick,it's been a long time,since we have been stable at RB. Btw,Michigan homer,and still like the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I still stand by it would have to be an exceptionally talented player to make me happy about drafting a RB that high. Last year provided a good example of the contrasting outcomes.. Gurley looks like everything he was touted to be, Gordon like a guy you could have got in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosiernsavga Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I pray we dont take a rb in the first 5 rds of the draft myself. RB's are a dime a dozen compared to the other roster spots this Colts team needs to address ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 6 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher said: Who's Williams? Trey Williams is the little scat back rookie from Texas A&M. He had one carry for a good gain, but he's more of a flanker than a RB. I'm not sure what role he could play, we already have small, fast receivers. If you put him in the backfield on passing downs, it's a green light for blitzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Hoosiernsavga said: I pray we dont take a rb in the first 5 rds of the draft myself. RB's are a dime a dozen compared to the other roster spots this Colts team needs to address ASAP! Average RBs are a dime a dozen. So we want to keep going for the average? After Elliott, I wouldn't draft anyone until late either. Henry isn't a complete RB IMO. So, I guess the Colts are going to have to decide if they want to count on Gore another year and live with the mediocrity behind him, or go for a guy who could be a starter for the next 8-10 years. Sure, we have many other needs. But I'll keep saying it - the drop off from round 1 to 2 on all those needed positions isn't nearly as great as it is for RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquire59 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 He reminds me of Christian McCaffery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, Esquire59 said: He reminds me of Christian McCaffery. He reminds me of Wes Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockywoj Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I liked Varga and think he is very workman-like and could be serviceable in spot duty at the RB position. Plus, I think he would really shine on special teams. I like the idea of him making the team next year as a 4th RB / special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet1968 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I would be very disappointed if the Colts dont address the offensive lineman before running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtRider Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 13 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: I'm not sure it's clear that we'll draft a running back at all.... And if we do, I'm not sure it will be early..... There's always free agency.... late picks.... or un-drafted free agents.... If we're going to use a high pick on a running back, then 2017 is the year to do it, not 2016. Throw the house @ Leonard Fournette in '17 if he's healthy & willing/able. A lot can happen in a season or two. Let's see. Wouldn't mind a bit to acquire him some way if not the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet1968 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 13 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: I'm not sure it's clear that we'll draft a running back at all.... And if we do, I'm not sure it will be early..... There's always free agency.... late picks.... or un-drafted free agents.... If we're going to use a high pick on a running back, then 2017 is the year to do it, not 2016. Hopefully in 2017 the Colts won't have as high of a draft pick. Let's just say pick#32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALL BLUE Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Smonroe said: Trey Williams is the little scat back rookie from Texas A&M. He had one carry for a good gain, but he's more of a flanker than a RB. I'm not sure what role he could play, we already have small, fast receivers. If you put him in the backfield on passing downs, it's a green light for blitzing. Not sure how he should be used either but hes got some quick.Been awhile since anyone with a horse shoe has gone around the corner that fast. (Tennessee game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harden Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Smonroe said: Average RBs are a dime a dozen. So we want to keep going for the average? After Elliott, I wouldn't draft anyone until late either. Henry isn't a complete RB IMO. So, I guess the Colts are going to have to decide if they want to count on Gore another year and live with the mediocrity behind him, or go for a guy who could be a starter for the next 8-10 years. Sure, we have many other needs. But I'll keep saying it - the drop off from round 1 to 2 on all those needed positions isn't nearly as great as it is for RBs. Varga is not mediocrity. He would have been a STUD for us this season if not for his concussion. Hard Work beat Talent when Talent don't Work Hard. I will not be surprise when Varga beat out Gore and becomes the work horse back. RBs should be the least of our worries. Right now we should worry about Defense and Offensive Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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