What happened to the stretch run plays?

[Cribbsfaircatch]

I miss those.

[coltsXnation]

Me

[Smurphy1]

What happened was we stopped being a zone blocking team.

[buccolts]

Scheme and talent?

[jvan1973]

I miss those.

We don't run a zone scheme anymore

[BrentMc11]

I saw one stretch run play this year.....as stated....no zone scheme.

[Cribbsfaircatch]

We need to go back to a zone scheme then.

[#12]

It ended while Manning was still here.  After a few injuries, Peyton was worried he could no longer get to the spot, so he started pitching it. 

[jvan1973]

We need to go back to a zone scheme then.

that's not happening anytime soon

[jvan1973]

It ended while Manning was still here. After a few injuries, Peyton was worried he could no longer get to the spot, so he started pitching it.

the stretch play can still be a toss

[#12]

the stretch play can still be a toss

 

I suppose - no play action though, which was our trademark.

[lollygagger8]

Maybe Pep took them out because Trent couldn't get to the outside fast enough? 

[James Ducheteau]

I think we really stopped being successful with it after Tarik and Medows retired.

[crazycolt1]

Got to have the right players in place to run those types of plays. We have struggled on the o-line and it shows. Lack of blocking in the run and pass game is where we need the most work.

[jvan1973]

I think we really stopped being successful with it after Tarik and Medows retired.

after edge moved on

[aaron11]

after edge moved on

this

[grimluck72]

I hated the stretch run. Good riddance.

[Warhorse]

Edge going to Arizona and this new line inable to sell the fake?

 

 

Or maybe they just dont play like dat.

[theanarchist]

Edge going to Arizona and this new line inable to sell the fake?

 

 

Or maybe they just dont play like dat.

Edge was the last guy that we had that could really be effective at it. Maybe Dom Rhoads. Personally I don't care what kind of run plays we run as long as they are gaining positive yards!

[Gavin]

Edge going to Arizona and this new line inable to sell the fake?

 

 

Or maybe they just dont play like dat.

Its not really the line that cant sell the fake....Its actually Luck, He is horrible at ball fakes, He sticks the ball out there for everyone to see(Not leaving the ball out there for the rb to run up to really) like he is going to hand it off and doesn't put it in the Backs belly and quickly take it out.....Basically you would have to be blind not to see the ball the whole time or simply not reading where the ball is at, Luck needs to watch some Peyton tape on his play action I think

[NewColtsFan]

I hated the stretch run. Good riddance.

 

Yeah.....  who would want one of the most successful running plays in NFL history?

[NewColtsFan]

Its not really the line that cant sell the fake....Its actually Luck, He is horrible at ball fakes, He sticks the ball out there for everyone to see(Not leaving the ball out there for the rb to run up to really) like he is going to hand it off and doesn't put it in the Backs belly and quickly take it out.....Basically you would have to be blind not to see the ball the whole time or simply not reading where the ball is at, Luck needs to watch some Peyton tape on his play action I think

 

Holy Cow....

 

I guess this must be like art....    Everyone sees the same thing differently.

 

I think Luck is terrific at play action and play fakes.    He was at Stanford, and he is with Indy.

 

I think the real shame of it is we simply don't use it very often.   You can probably count the number of times in a season on two hands with several fingers left over.    It's a waste we don't use it more often.

 

I don't know what you're seeing,  but it looks totally different on my TV screen....

[OLD FAN MAN]

pep

[Gavin]

Holy Cow....

 

I guess this must be like art....    Everyone sees the same thing differently.

 

I think Luck is terrific at play action and play fakes.    He was at Stanford, and he is with Indy.

 

I think the real shame of it is we simply don't use it very often.   You can probably count the number of times in a season on two hands with several fingers left over.    It's a waste we don't use it more often.

 

I don't know what you're seeing,  but it looks totally different on my TV screen....

I just don't like the way he does it, I don't see how anyone would be fooled how he does it, He holds the ball out there like he is going to hand off but most often pulls the ball back way to early instead of putting the ball in the rb's gut and pulling it out quickly after, much of it is on the rb to accelerate quickly out of his stance and act like he is cradling the ball in his gut though , Peyton was the master at it here.....Im not trying to compare the two intentionally because I simply don't want to open that pandoras box again but I'd like if Luck would study the mechanics of how Peyton did it....extends his arm and hand straight out putting the ball in the rb's gut then immediately pulling it out as he rolled out to turn and throw, Just my 2 cents

[NewColtsFan]

I just don't like the way he does it, I don't see how anyone would be fooled how he does it, He holds the ball out there like he is going to hand off but most often pulls the ball back way to early instead of putting the ball in the rb's gut and pulling it out quickly after, much of it is on the rb to accelerate quickly out of his stance and act like he is cradling the ball in his gut though , Peyton was the master at it here.....Im not trying to compare the two intentionally because I simply don't want to open that pandoras box again but I'd like if Luck would study the mechanics of how Peyton did it....extends his arm and hand straight out putting the ball in the rb's gut then immediately pulling it out as he rolled out to turn and throw, Just my 2 cents

 

I don't know how you've come to this conclusion?    In order for this to happen, Luck has to be under center and run play-action.

 

Do we even do this on average of once a game?    I'm asking because I think that about all we do with Luck under center -- once a game.   And it doesn't always lead to play-action.    So, I think there are incredibly few examples to rely on.

 

I think we keep Luck either in the pistol or mostly shot-gun because we are paranoid afraid of putting Luck under center and the defense blitzing us in the A-gaps.       So, we basically don't do it.    That's the status of our line and our running game.

 

I can't tell you how much that annoys me.   That could be a good sized part of our offense and it's not.   A complete waste.

[John Dee]

And I miss Glenn, Diem, Scott, Saturday, and Lilja ....

 

Gotta have good line to run that stuff...  

I miss those.

[John Dee]

Yesss   ..   The interior of Indy's line has been sooooo bad they cannot even ATTEMPT play action because it is fooling no one and by the time a "good sell" of a fake is executed.. .  Luck wil turn around and get blasted.   

 

Gotta be stout up the gut to pull great play action off...     ie  RUN THE BALLL..  hehehee

 

I don't know how you've come to this conclusion?    In order for this to happen, Luck has to be under center and run play-action.

 

Do we even do this on average of once a game?    I'm asking because I think that about all we do with Luck under center -- once a game.   And it doesn't always lead to play-action.    So, I think there are incredibly few examples to rely on.

 

I think we keep Luck either in the pistol or mostly shot-gun because we are paranoid afraid of putting Luck under center and the defense blitzing us in the A-gaps.       So, we basically don't do it.    That's the status of our line and our running game.

 

I can't tell you how much that annoys me.   That could be a good sized part of our offense and it's not.   A complete waste.

[UKColt13]

No zone blocking (much to my dismay), marginal talent at RB

[Gavin]

I don't know how you've come to this conclusion?    In order for this to happen, Luck has to be under center and run play-action.

 

Do we even do this on average of once a game?    I'm asking because I think that about all we do with Luck under center -- once a game.   And it doesn't always lead to play-action.    So, I think there are incredibly few examples to rely on.

 

I think we keep Luck either in the pistol or mostly shot-gun because we are paranoid afraid of putting Luck under center and the defense blitzing us in the A-gaps.       So, we basically don't do it.    That's the status of our line and our running game.

 

I can't tell you how much that annoys me.   That could be a good sized part of our offense and it's not.   A complete waste.

We don't do it a lot overall but Im not talking about how much we do it, Im talking about how its done

[TKnight24]

Seems like once Bradshaw went down, the offense went with him. We were a completely different team once we lost him. We ran stretch plays numerous times in the Eagles game, if my 20yr old brain isn't lying to me

[JColts72]

Get D. Murray from Dallas who is going to be a free agent then you will see the stretch, play action and what a running game should be like.

[Ohio Colt]

Surprised no one said it - Trent Richardson happened. You can't run a stretch with that guy. We really don't have a back that you can run stretches with. Boom would be the best bet it just never materialized that wasn't the type of offensive team we were at that point.