OLD FAN MAN Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 anyone got any ideas how to win with a zero pass rush defense? offense step it up and carry us? defense new system? run the ball? passing short game? what? lets hear from members who have some scheme knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Score the basketball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Score more points than the opponent. That works 100% of the time i find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 anyone got any ideas how to win with a zero pass rush defense? offense step it up and carry us? defense new system? run the ball? passing short game? what?Instead of trying to figure out how to win without a pass rush, we would be better served in figuring out how to generate one in a hurry. Certain fundamental principles just can't be circumvented over the long term. Verner and others will need to step it up in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD FAN MAN Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Instead of trying to figure out how to win without a pass rush, we would be better served in figuring out how to generate one in a hurry. Certain fundamental principles just can't be circumvented over the long term. Verner and others will need to step it up in a big way. sounds like a plan, and a job for the coaches. maybe some forum members haves some ideas on how to sack the qb with the players we have now scheme wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well.....Not going 4 for 13 on 3rd down again is an excellent starting point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B~Town Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I really think we need to run a lot more timing plays quick hitter slants crossing comebacks and screens . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We're allowing too many home runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD FAN MAN Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 also how do we start getting tds in the red zone? ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Score more points than the opponent. That works 100% of the time i findI see my work is already done for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 also how do we start getting tds in the red zone? ideas?We fool the opponent by calling it the "Blue Zone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We fool the opponent by calling it the "Blue Zone".How are you not a special assistant in the NFL? Brilliant thinking outside the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We're not going to win at all the rest of the season so it doesn't matter! Without Robert Mathis the Colts are not even going to be able to dress themselves! Hold on to your seats everyone and start looking at who we going to pick #1 in the upcoming draft!! CHILL THE FREAK (for choice of a better word) OUT PEOPLE!!!! Nothing is more annoying than one player going down and now the season is over! That's completely rediculous!! We were going to miss him the first 4 weeks anyway! We will be OKAY!! SERIOUSLY! No doubt it's a big loss but nothing we can do about it now! We still having plenty of freaking capable players. Some people are a bunch of fair weather crybabies and don't believe in the teams they root for. One player goes down it's the end they don't think their team can win another game for the next 20 years it seems! It's embarassing really.....So I really hope more people make another 50 threads about "How to win now". The Colts go out and play da** football! That's how they win! Seriously! Why do I even bother? We are so screwed with Andrew Luck at quarterback along with a dangerous offense.Wish our defense wasn't going to finish last in the league now with players like Chapman, Art Jones, Vontae Davis, Corey Redding and Jerell Freeman! Wow we don't have any play makers! I doubt we won't get another sack this year! Season must be over!!Jeeesh now I feel better....(Insert rant over picture) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We fool the opponent by calling it the "Blue Zone".No loading in the blue zone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I suggest we adopt the Flying V formation. Saw it in a movie, seemed legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We're not going to win at all the rest of the season so it doesn't matter!Without Robert Mathis the Colts are not even going to be able to dress themselves! Hold on to your seats everyone and start looking at who we going to pick #1 in the upcoming draft!!CHILL THE FREAK (for choice of a better word) OUT PEOPLE!!!!Nothing is more annoying than one player going down and now the season is over! That's completely rediculous!! We were going to miss him the first 4 weeks anyway! We will be OKAY!! SERIOUSLY!No doubt it's a big loss but nothing we can do about it now! We still having plenty of freaking capable players. Some people are a bunch of fair weather crybabies and don't believe in the teams they root for. One player goes down it's the end they don't think their team can win another game for the next 20 years it seems! It's embarassing really.....So I really hope more people make another 50 threads about "How to win now".The Colts go out and play da** football! That's how they win! Seriously!Why do I even bother? We are so screwed with Andrew Luck at quarterback along with a dangerous offense.Wish our defense wasn't going to finish last in the league now with players like Chapman, Art Jones, Vontae Davis, Corey Redding and Jerell Freeman! Wow we don't have any play makers! I doubt we won't get another sack this year!Season must be over!!Jeeesh now I feel better....(Insert rant over picture)This rant seems out of place. Calm down. Also, pickles. Has anyone else ever even seen a pickle plant or a pickle tree? I've researched this thoroughly and there is no record whatsoever of a pickle plant or a pickle tree. The Pickle isn't even listed as a vegetable OR a fruit. I'm highly suspicious that these "pickles" aren't what the pickle industry has led us to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 No loading in the blue zone...DUH? That's where we unload. We unload on them so hard, candy will fall out their #%@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 DUH? That's where we unload. We unload on them so hard, candy will fall out their #%@Ahh the classic piñata trick play.. Starring Andrew Luck as the piñata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Ahh the classic piñata trick play.. Starring Andrew Luck as the piñata.EXACTLY! No...wait... DUDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 sounds like a plan, and a job for the coaches. maybe some forum members haves some ideas on how to sack the qb with the players we have now scheme wiseLand mines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Well, we don't need to get pressure every play, but we are going to need Werner to provide a little bit of pressure.. Walden can provide a little pressure but that won't be his primary job... Look for the rookie Jonathan Newsome to get some reps opposite of Werner to go get after the QB. We have good cover corners for as much slack as people give Greg Toler, he did have 3 PD's, when you take into account we played the best throwing offense in the NFL, with new emphasis on no downfield contact, I think Toler did fine, and Vontae Davis and Darius Butler are two of the best cover corners at their positions. So the key is not to rely on our pass rush, and not necessarily get 6 sacks a game or what not, but just provide some pressure, and make the QB throw it before he wants to, I think our D-line/OLB's can do this. Also lookout for some creative safety/MLB blitz packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD FAN MAN Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Well, we don't need to get pressure every play, but we are going to need Werner to provide a little bit of pressure.. Walden can provide a little pressure but that won't be his primary job... Look for the rookie Jonathan Newsome to get some reps opposite of Werner to go get after the QB. We have good cover corners for as much slack as people give Greg Toler, he did have 3 PD's, when you take into account we played the best throwing offense in the NFL, with new emphasis on no downfield contact, I think Toler did fine, and Vontae Davis and Darius Butler are two of the best cover corners at their positions. So the key is not to rely on our pass rush, and not necessarily get 6 sacks a game or what not, but just provide some pressure, and make the QB throw it before he wants to, I think our D-line/OLB's can do this. Also lookout for some creative safety/MLB blitz packages. good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Score the basketballI have to agree, Colts need Stephen Curry to just drain three pointers all night.. Good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMDColtsfan Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Well.....Not going 4 for 13 on 3rd down again is an excellent starting pointWasn't that a major topic for improvement way back in the offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Bradshaw needs to start over Richardson and Allen should be on the field a lot more then Fleener. Defensively, Manusky has to be more creative and call more blitzes and stunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 We're fine as a team. That's was a great second half of football. We lost though. Monday if Holmes plays then we'll get a better look at the team. Eagle have guys out but that doesn't matter. We have players out as well. Take it week by week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neug3246 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 play 60 minutes of football rather than only 30 minutes of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Stay the course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bui Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Use the Moncrief and Hilton like patterson and harvin. Start Bradshaw! DUH.Fleener needs to take advantage of his athleticism. Play good defense and don't give up big plays. (Get 4 man pressure)Good OL play (of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think we'll be fine on defense as we go along. We'll just get it done in a different manner. I'm actually more concerned about finding a better mix of run and pass on offense than I am about the defense. When we get too dependent on the pass it always spells forcedinterceptions for Luck. I want him to be able to calm down and run the offense withoutfeeling like he's got to be Superman to win the game. Gotta get that running game goingand also stay consistent with the check downs when you have to. Also I want to see us be better about getting Hakim Nicks involvedmore along with Reggie and T.Y. I like what I've seen out of him so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Nah we need bradshaw for playoffs. Start Richardson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwest1 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Well.....Not going 4 for 13 on 3rd down again is an excellent starting pointDetails; details...Nothing like getting to the heart of the problem there Gavin. How come everytime we get in the money down it feels like "insufficient funds?" Only teasing, but we can't expect Luck to bail us out all the time either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Score more points than the opponent. That works 100% of the time i findbest me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwest1 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Bradshaw needs to start over Richardson and Allen should be on the field a lot more then Fleener. Defensively, Manusky has to be more creative and call more blitzes and stunts.I'd be willing to try that little experiment just to see if our tempo changes, we become more fluid keeping drives alive, & the outcome is different than game 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Score mo... Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Call me crazy, but I'm going to wait for a slightly larger sample size before I start firing up the oven. Stupid crazy Brit, I know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwest1 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I suggest we adopt the Flying V formation. Saw it in a movie, seemed legit.V for Victory. It works on a symbolic, deeper plane of existence level. Works for me man. I'll try anything once SCC. Wouldn't the Eagles, Falcons, or Hawks have dips on the formation before INDY though? I like your creativity ingenuity though. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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