Report: Colts in talks for Alex Mack (mega-merge)

[bavanlan]

please tell me your a preschool teacher, just to make the visual more humorous.

 

I hope not.

 

Anyone that drinks that swill should never be around children.

[bababooey]

Cleveland has the ability to match any contract we offer, and they have more cap room than us

 

What about their needs? Surely they won't outbid us to keep their Center if it means breaking their bank and precludes them from signing other FA's.

[csmopar]

AHHHHHHHH I keep looking for an update and the suspense is killing me! Go get get him Grigs, offer 10-12 million and work some back room deal with the Browns to keep them from offering.

[Jonathan24]

It really doesn't matter, we all knew there was mutual interest but the question is will the browns match what we offer.  With our cap space im sure they will.  You never know maybe they wont match since we took richardson off their hands.

[BlueCollarColts]

What draft picks would you be willin to give up to stop Cleveland from matching?

[Balzer40]

And if he doesn't sign? I'm just curious

 

Entirely?

 

 

 

If he don't sign with Cleveland if they would match our offer, then he's considered a hold out and he just won't play at all. That won't happen because Mack don't hate Cleveland, he just wants to keep his options open.

[Insert Colts Pun Here]

Maaannn this is brutal! I really hope Grigson can make this happen!

[lollygagger8]

Costa should be Plan F, behind Mack, EDS, BDLP and Goodwin and McGlynn.

 

Fixed

[PeterBowman]

So we have went from a 0% chance of this happening...to now a 0.001% chance.

so you're saying there's a chance?

[lollygagger8]

What draft picks would you be willin to give up to stop Cleveland from matching?

 

ZERO. 

 

 

Browns get no more picks from us! 

[BlueCollarColts]

ZERO.

Browns get no more picks from us!

Tbh I'd give them our 2nd rounder

[Balzer40]

What about their needs? Surely they won't outbid us to keep their Center if it means breaking their bank and precludes them from signing other FA's.

 

Cleveland don't have as many needs as we do. They pretty much only lack a QB but they'll draft one and he'll be cheap. Cleveland has at least twice as much cap space as we do. So any offer we gave Mack, they could easily match and wouldn't really hurt them.

[Derakynn]

Meh. I wouldn't want to ever spend much more than 7m APY for a center. To get him out of the tag it would have to be similar to a poison pill anyways, so if anything it should be a monstrous first year hit that allows the rest of the year's hits to be less than 8m. 

[Balzer40]

so you're saying there's a chance?

 

 

If you want to be hopelessly optimistic. In reality, I still don't think there's a chance! 

 

(and I got the dumb and dumber reference)

[BlueCollarColts]

If you want to be hopelessly optimistic. In reality, I still don't think there's a chance! 

 

(and I got the dumb and dumber reference)

There is a chance, its just going to involve us most likely sending a draft pick Clevelands way

[jameszeigler834]

Yeah, of course! We have Luck

Hope he joins. But for a contract the browns cant match but not a outragous deal either., 

[csmopar]

What draft picks would you be willin to give up to stop Cleveland from matching?

Honestly...normally I'd say no more, but to get Mack, I'd have to give them a 2015 3rd rder to start with....

[Balzer40]

There is a chance, its just going to involve us most likely sending a draft pick Clevelands way

 

 

 

Knowing Cleveland they would want our 1st again next yr., so I'll still say there isn't a chance. I say that with all hope that I'm wrong.

[BigQandTheManiac]

its unreal how sooo many players wants to play for the colts...amazing

[BlueCollarColts]

Meh. I wouldn't want to ever spend much more than 7m APY for a center. To get him out of the tag it would have to be similar to a poison pill anyways, so if anything it should be a monstrous first year hit that allows the rest of the year's hits to be less than 8m. 

Poison pill contracts aren't allowed anymore

[Mr. Irrelevant]

If you want to be hopelessly optimistic. In reality, I still don't think there's a chance! 

 

(and I got the dumb and dumber reference)

Yeah, but if Mack really really wants to move to Colts, there is a slim chance that Cleveland and Colts could work something out.

 

If this goes through, it won't be because we offer more that Cleveland will give, that much is a given IMO.

[BlueCollarColts]

its unreal how sooo many players wants to play for the colts...amazing

Feels good doesn't it!!  :clap:

[Balzer40]

Yeah, but if Mack really really wants to move to Colts, there is a slim chance that Cleveland and Colts could work something out.

 

If this goes through, it won't be because we offer more that Cleveland will give, that much is a given IMO.

 

 

I hope like hell I'm wrong and something can be worked out. I just don't see it right now.

[Bluefire4]

We don't have to give the Browns a draft pick to get him and Mack's agent said he can structure the contract in a way that the Browns couldn't match.

[Balzer40]

We don't have to give the Browns a draft pick to get him and Mack's agent said he can structure the contract in a way that the Browns couldn't match.

 

 

That would take some real creativity and I would love to see how he would do it. Because if there is anything in it that could be seen as some kind of poison pill, it'll never hold water and won't be allowed.

[bavanlan]

I hope like hell I'm wrong and something can be worked out. I just don't see it right now.

 

I still say our worse case scenario should be offering him a one year contract for the exact same amount he's getting under the tag with the agreement that neither tag can be used on him again next year.

 

We would win either way...

[jvan1973]

We don't have to give the Browns a draft pick to get him and Mack's agent said he can structure the contract in a way that the Browns couldn't match.

i don't believe his agent to be honest

[jvan1973]

I still say our worse case scenario should be offering him a one year contract for the exact same amount he's getting under the tag with the agreement that either tag can't be used on him again.

We would win either way...

and a goodwill gesture for him to sign here next year

[Gavin]

Cleveland don't have as many needs as we do. They pretty much only lack a QB but they'll draft one and he'll be cheap. Cleveland has at least twice as much cap space as we do. So any offer we gave Mack, they could easily match and wouldn't really hurt them.

Meh they need:

 

1.Safety

2.Another WR

3.QB

4.RB

5.Guard

 

We need(immediate needs):

 

1.Center

2.Safety

 

Other then that we need alot of depth (Plenty of upgrades in other words)

[Balzer40]

I still say our worse case scenario should be offering him a one year contract for the exact same amount he's getting under the tag with the agreement that neither tag can be used on him again next year.

 

We would win either way...

 

 

I still think Cleveland wouldn't have a problem matching that though. 

[Dustin]

Man, there's got to be someway we can put together a contract that Cleavland couldn't match.

[ColtJ82]

Signing Mack my cost us the ability to re-sign Castanzo after the season. Collateral damage.

[BlueCollarColts]

Meh they need:

 

1.Safety

2.Another WR

3.QB

4.RB

5.Guard

 

We need(immediate needs):

 

1.Center

2.Safety

 

Other then that we need alot of depth (Plenty of upgrades in other words)

Honestly... I am a big fan of Delano Howell, and obviously the front office is with showing no immediate rush to try to sign another safety, its going to come down to Howell and probably a rookie

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/03/13/pro-bowl-c-mack-wants-to-talk-to-colts/6378077/

"Anytime a player has a chance to talk with a team with a proven record like the Colts, (with) a quarterback and other weapons of the caliber Indy has, it certainly catches your attention," Mack said.

"I don't want to get into who has contacted me. I leave those questions for my agents.""I don't want to get into who has contacted me. I leave those questions for my agents."

"I'm willing to be patient with the process," he said.

"I'm willing to be patient with the process"....... He is perfect he already sounds like a Colt

[BlueCollarColts]

Man, there's got to be someway we can put together a contract that Cleavland couldn't match.

In a way Cleveland COULDN'T match? I doubt it, but im sure they could do it in a way Cleveland maybe would decide not to

[BlueCollarColts]

Signing Mack my cost us the ability to re-sign Castanzo after the season. Collateral damage.

Won't we have a good amount of cap space next season?

[Balzer40]

i don't believe his agent to be honest

 

 

 

I don't either. I've went over different kinds of scenario's in my head and I just can't think of anything he could construct that wouldn't be considered a poison pill contract.

[bavanlan]

I still think Cleveland wouldn't have a problem matching that though. 

 

Right, but we can get him next year unencumbered.

[Jonathan24]

Man, there's got to be someway we can put together a contract that Cleavland couldn't match.

 

according to his agent he could put something together.

[Derakynn]

Poison pill contracts aren't allowed anymore

Hence the words "similar to". Structure it with a 20m cap hit this and tell me they wouldn't hesitate. It isn't a poison pill because it isn't discriminating against the team that tagged him with some ridiculous stipulation like fully guaranteeing his contract if he plays more than 2 games in Cleveland. It would not be a stipulation at all.