TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 @CraigKColts: .@Colts will proceed wisely through free agency, says Ryan Grigson: http://t.co/HZePB7p0kDLet's make some good moves this off-season Mr. Grigson #InGrigsonWeTrust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColtsGo5150 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 By Wise- I hope he means the following: Resign Vontae to a long term dealCut Sateleresign the ST players Sign Alex MackSign Jairus ByrdSign Arthur JonesSign Jon Asamoah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 just hopes he does the opposite of last year. (sign mid level talent for a good amount of cash) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derakynn Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yes, it would be wise of him to lock up 35m in cap space in just 4 players, not including the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markabrown96 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Why didn't he do that last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 By Wise- I hope he means the following:Resign Vontae to a long term dealCut Sateleresign the ST playersSign Alex MackSign Jairus ByrdSign Arthur JonesSign Jon AsamoahYou do realize it's highly unlikely that we'd sign all 4 of those players plus Vontae with our salary numbers right? Byrd is gonna rob someone blind this season & it better not be the Colts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyTrav Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Nothing wrong with spending wisely. I'd be more focused on nailing a few draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÅÐØNϧ 1 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 By Wise- I hope he means the following: Resign Vontae to a long term dealCut Sateleresign the ST players Sign Alex MackSign Jairus ByrdSign Arthur JonesSign Jon Asamoah I read something about the possibility Vontae Davis might get the franchise tag . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÅÐØNϧ 1 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Are we gonna let Mc Afee & Vinatieri go ? At least keep Mc Afee . Antoine Bethea, SAdam Vinatieri, KPat McAfee, PDarrius Heyward-Bey, WRMike McGlynn, OGAhmad Bradshaw, RBVontae Davis, CBJeff Linkenbach, OGCassius Vaughn, CBPat Angerer, ILBAubrayo Franklin, DTFili Moala, DESergio Brown, SRicardo Mathews, DELawrence Sidbury, OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12isthenew18 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Vontae wont get the tag not 11mGet A.Jones 5/25m DECut Toler, Satele, RJFV.Davis 5/32mC.Clemens 3/12m FSUse another 6m on resigning (Mcafee, Gordy, S.Brown, C.Johnson, etc.)B.Puente C 3/12mDraft:59: Trade to browns for 71st and 83rd overall picks and we trade a seventh rounder71: S.Jean Baptiste CB (Number 2 corner next to Vontae Davis)83: D.Jones DT (What we need)90: Trade for 2 4th rounders to Jags (Get More Picks)101:M.Sam OLB (Help Transition with Mathis, Werner and Walden)110: C.Jones ILB (Side to Side with Freeman)5th: D.Anthony Thomas RB (Speed Back)6th: L'Damian Washington (Tall WR)7th: A.Fera K (Good)7th: Trade for TE depth from another NFL team (We need More)Around 10m for all picksWe have around 5m leftover with several cap casualtiesThe key is small base salaries and high signings bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Pet peeve - I'd expect a professional writer to know the difference between resign and re-sign. Call me grammar police, but they almost have the opposite meanings. Then again, maybe he's quoting Grigson correctly. Is he saying we should resign ourselves to loosing our young talent in the next couple years? Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Nothing wrong with spending wisely. I'd be more focused on nailing a few draft picks. Pretty sure he will be trying to do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 By Wise- I hope he means the following: Resign Vontae to a long term dealCut Sateleresign the ST players Sign Alex MackSign Jairus ByrdSign Arthur JonesSign Jon Asamoah I'm going to go out on a limb and say that would be too expensive. Maybe we could swing something like Evan Dietrich-Smith, Donald Butler, Chad Rinehart, and a Safety while keeping Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Pretty sure he will be trying to do both.Quite the phenomenon, that concept of multitasking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 It sounded to me like Grigson is starting to seriously factor in the future need to resign Andrew Luck and possibly Trent Richardson into how he is approaching Free Agency and available cash from here on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Cut Toler, Satele, RJF Toler is not getting cut. And neither is RJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Why didn't he do that last year You have no idea what we did in FA last year do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Expecting a number of Pags Brown Nose Bozos to be brought back.Such is life. Wonder if Zibby is clean & ready to come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 You have no idea what we did in FA last year do you?Sure we do. And i agree with the analysts, it didn`t work out very well.Lets see, who met or exceeded their contract. !YOU Homer, have no idea. JMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponyboy Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 No more whiffs on the interior OL in FA. It would be *wise* to bite the bullet and sign the closest thing to a sure-thing in Mack (who has never missed a game), even if you have to overpay (within reason). I'd be fine if that was the only big name FA pickup this off-season. Front load fully guaranteed money in the first two years and let the cap-hit crater a bit in 2016, 2017 -- to make it easier for the signings that have to occur in 2016. Backload 2018+ if needed to get the overall numbers where they should be in $M/year. This sets up a long term Luck/Mack tandem with both entering their primes. Can't afford another year of an underperforming interior OL, we need quality at that position right out of the gate next year. Aside from signing Davis, everything else is secondary, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Pet peeve - I'd expect a professional writer to know the difference between resign and re-sign. Call me grammar police, but they almost have the opposite meanings.Then again, maybe he's quoting Grigson correctly. Is he saying we should resign ourselves to loosing our young talent in the next couple years? Hmmm... "Losing" is the correct spelling officer grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 "Losing" is the correct spelling officer grammar Loosing - to set free, release.And that's Mr. Officer Grammar to you young man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just a guess..... but Grigson's quote maybe his way of saying do not expect the kind of spending spree we got last year... because he needs to save a large chunk of it for the 2012 class 2nd contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Loosing - to set free, release.And that's Mr. Officer Grammar to you young man! *Stands at attention* Sir yes sir!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just a guess..... but Grigson's quote maybe his way of saying do not expect the kind of spending spree we got last year... because he needs to save a large chunk of it for the 2012 class 2nd contracts. Well Grigson may be thinking that but don't we have a set number the NFL forces you to spend? How much could he save? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 His priority should be a C and G to finally fix the line if we can swing Byrd do it too then draft an ILB and CB early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Well Grigson may be thinking that but don't we have a set number the NFL forces you to spend? How much could he save? Grigson will aways spend every dollar he thinks he can.... I'm just saying it may not be as much as last year even though we have almost as much money.... The figure I think you're referring to is 89%, but that's an average over a certain number of seasons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Well Grigson may be thinking that but don't we have a set number the NFL forces you to spend? How much could he save?Not really. The spending is averaged over a number of years (4?). So theoretically a team could go under or over the cap for a couple years and make up for it later.With all the young guys wanting new contracts in the next two years, I won't be surprised if we stay under this year.Personally, I believe it's a win now league. Spend the money on the needed spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Grigson will aways spend every dollar he thinks he can.... I'm just saying it may not be as much as last year even though we have almost as much money.... The figure I think you're referring to is 89%, but that's an average over a certain number of seasons.... Oh, I see what you're saying now. I didn't expect much spending this off-season either. I mean we're in much better shape now than we were this time last year. This vision Pagano & Grigson have is slowly coming together. Slowly but surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Reading between the lines here, the colts have said several different ways that they want to resign Davis and Bethea. When the subject of Satele comes up, Grigson's statements tend to be noncommittal. I think its a greater than 50% chance the Davis and Bethea will be colts next year and that Satele and McGlynn will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Reading between the lines here, the colts have said several different ways that they want to resign Davis and Bethea. When the subject of Satele comes up, Grigson's statements tend to be noncommittal. I think its a greater than 50% chance the Davis and Bethea will be colts next year and that Satele and McGlynn will not. Very good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Sure we do. And i agree with the analysts, it didn`t work out very well.Lets see, who met or exceeded their contract. !YOU Homer, have no idea. JMO of course. Wow, then I guess you don't care that Grigson took risks and front loaded the contracts so we could walk away easily if they didn't pan out. SMH Who's the homer? I'll give you a hint, it's not me. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Wow, then I guess you don't care that Grigson took risks and front loaded the contracts so we could walk away easily if they didn't pan out. SMH Who's the homer? I'll give you a hint, it's not me. ;)Let's hope that's the case! I want to win now while these young guys are still in their rookie deals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts8718 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 You have no idea what we did in FA last year do you?Do you because it was not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaric Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I can only assume this is code for "We're signing Alex Mack." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Wow, then I guess you don't care that Grigson took risks and front loaded the contracts so we could walk away easily if they didn't pan out. SMH Who's the homer? I'll give you a hint, it's not me. ;) Do you because it was not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Let's hope that's the case! I want to win now while these young guys are still in their rookie deals.. Here's everything you need to know, players like RJF could be cut for what I believe is only 1.8mil in dead cap space, and Satele for only around 1 million http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/cap-hit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaric Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Here's everything you need to know, players like RJF could be cut for what I believe is only 1.8mil in dead cap space, and Satele for only around 1 million http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/cap-hit/I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed how the bulk of last year's free agent contracts were structured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEx40 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 By Wise- I hope he means the following: Resign Vontae to a long term dealCut Sateleresign the ST players Sign Alex MackSign Jairus ByrdSign Arthur JonesSign Jon Asamoah yea we sign all those guys they would be are entire 2014 cap room I like mack I think byrd gets tagged jones would be a good pick up but I don't think we can afford him I think by wisely he hopefully means he will sign guys to smart contrats to afford all the great 2012 talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 It sounded to me like Grigson is starting to seriously factor in the future need to resign Andrew Luck and possibly Trent Richardson into how he is approaching Free Agency and available cash from here on out.We won't resign Richardson, he isnt the future of the franchise. We have a lot of good players whose contracts will be up around the same time, Richardson won't be on the list. Hilton, Allen, Fleener, and Luck will be the priorities. If Richardson doesnt drastically improve I doubt he will ever get another contract with anyone, runningbacks have a short shelf life and are fairly easy to replace of they aren't superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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