Jonathan Martin -- would he help our OL? [Merge]

[ColtsFanMikeC]

http://espn.go.com/blog/indianapolis-colts/post/_/id/3727/would-the-colts-pursue-jonathan-martin?ex_cid=espnapi_public

 

Kind of interesting thought -- I think Martin is a pretty good player -- obviously there will be some controversy/drama made by the media whereever he winds up (if he winds up anywhere?).  Any chance the Colts would be front-runners to sign him if he leaves Miami??  As the article points out, Luck, Whalen, Fleener and Pep all spoke positively of Martin in public and private -- I think Martin would be an upgrade to our depth at OT and I am not sure how he'd fair if he transitioned to OG, but given how bad we were there and not know the status of D. Thomas' health, I'd have to think he'd have a shot to crack our line-up there.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

[Dustin]

I think Martin is a pretty good player -

 

 

Have you seen him play?

 

His skills don't warrant the attention, drama, ect...

[NewColtsFan]

It depends on whether or not he wants to start, and could he start at guard.

 

I don't think he can start ahead of AC or Cherilus...    But would he be willing to be our 3rd OT??

 

I'm not sure he's a fit at guard.

 

So,  would we have some interest?    Sure.   I'd think so.

 

But it depends on if he gets an offer to start anywhere else and what it would cost to get him in either draft picks or money.

 

I know he's not popular here because of what happened in Miami....   but I view that as a Miami issue,  not a problem that JM will bring with him wherever he goes.    Especially not with the Colts since we have great leadership throughout the franchise.

[dudeski]

god no

[jameszeigler834]

http://espn.go.com/blog/indianapolis-colts/post/_/id/3727/would-the-colts-pursue-jonathan-martin?ex_cid=espnapi_public

 

Kind of interesting thought -- I think Martin is a pretty good player -- obviously there will be some controversy/drama made by the media whereever he winds up (if he winds up anywhere?).  Any chance the Colts would be front-runners to sign him if he leaves Miami??  As the article points out, Luck, Whalen, Fleener and Pep all spoke positively of Martin in public and private -- I think Martin would be an upgrade to our depth at OT and I am not sure how he'd fair if he transitioned to OG, but given how bad we were there and not know the status of D. Thomas' health, I'd have to think he'd have a shot to crack our line-up there.

 

Thoughts?

He knows the system.

[Patagonia Chris]

No way I would want Johnathon Martin on this team. Dude is a head case! He has underperformed thus far in his career and been a distraction.

[wig]

I would take him at guard in a heartbeat.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

vet min and play him at guard (unless he suddenly becomes better than our bookends)

[ColtsFanMikeC]

It depends on whether or not he wants to start, and could he start at guard.

 

I don't think he can start ahead of AC or Cherilus...    But would he be willing to be our 3rd OT??

 

I'm not sure he's a fit at guard.

 

So,  would we have some interest?    Sure.   I'd think so.

 

But it depends on if he gets an offer to start anywhere else and what it would cost to get him in either draft picks or money.

 

I know he's not popular here because of what happened in Miami....   but I view that as a Miami issue,  not a problem that JM will bring with him wherever he goes.    Especially not with the Colts since we have great leadership throughout the franchise.

I think, assuming he is mentally sound after all that happened in MIA, he would be an improvement for depth at OT  -- I was, overall, very pleased with Castonzo and Cherilus, and if they're healthy, I think Martin is a long-shot to dethrone either of them.  And you are right, he is 6'5" 312 lbs... he may have at tough transition to guard, but I don't know that for sure.

 

Anyway, he started 23 of 23 games in his NFL career for Miami, and I think they've had a better OL than us during the past 2 seasons.

 

I'd be for giving him a shot on this team -- if he can help keep Luck upright or improve our run game, I don't think we've got any Incognito types on this team.

[Bluefire4]

I guess if he's cheap and better at guard than tackle.

[beavis]

Was he released, or is he still with Miami?

[beavis]

Another question, what's up with Incognito?

[ColtsBlueFL]

His mental makeup really isn't cut out for starting LT.  Cherilus has RT.  So if he'd learn the L or R guard position... sure bring him on board and see if he can dethrone some of our resident under performers.. unless Well's report shows significant mental deficiencies.

[ColtsBlueFL]

Another question, what's up with Incognito?

 

I'm sure Well's report won't be made public until after the Super Bowl.  Then the steaming pile(s) of dung from both side will be uncovered.  Get your gas masks ready...

[ColtsFanMikeC]

Was he released, or is he still with Miami?

He is still with Miami, although he has told them (according to a source 'close to him') that he does not wish to play there any longer.  I assume that means he will be released or traded for a late-rounder/conditional pick sometime soon.

[ColtsFanMikeC]

Another question, what's up with Incognito?

he is suspended indefintely for his role in the whole debacle

[Track Guy]

If we could get him on the cheap it would be a real good move imo. We're lacking in O-line depth. I think if there's a team he could maybe get his head straight on it's the Colts with the big time Stanford connection. But he hasn't proven he's good enough to pay serious cash for.

[colts_mp]

absolutely not.  Colts are known for being soft as it is.  Looks to me like he doesn't really want to play football at the pro level.  He also just up and quit on his team.

[ReMeDy]

I want that Incognito kid . Hopefully his pizza intake has been minimal.

[BleedBlu8792]

absolutely not.  Colts are known for being soft as it is.  Looks to me like he doesn't really want to play football at the pro level.  He also just up and quit on his team.

 SPOT ON! No thank you on softies like Jonathan Martin, and NO THANK YOU just because he's a Stanford guy.

[Phil Shifley]

My Grandma would improve our Offensive Line.

[jamesie jr]

Not as a starter but would be better than any depth players we have, eg. Reitz/Link imo

[Mattpara]

Of course he'd be good to sign! Not many teams would want him, so he'd be cheap, and if he tries guard and sucks at it, he's still an upgrade as a backup tackle anyway

[SteelCityColt]

Surely it wouldn't hurt to sign him to a min contract and see what he can do preseason at G/Backup T. If it works out it's all good. if it don't cut him and what have we lost?

[Modern]

Martin is cancer. He is a media circus, a head case, and at best a backup.

Thats how you strengthen your line, bring in a guy who was never very good, who will have all his teammates not wanting to have anything to do with him, and potentially could have a fit one day and walk out because he is too soft to stand up for himself.

Any team that takes Martin is a fool.

He is a distraction and a disaster in the making for any team that would have him on their roster.

[Glowfish]

Why would i want a tackle o guard who may cry because a defensive tackle or defensive end said something mean to him?

 

Please no.

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

I think Martin is done in the nfl. As a person of color who played sports, I would prefer Incognito. I think he's a *, but a loyal teammate and productive olineman.

[Smonroe]

I want that Incognito kid . Hopefully his pizza intake has been minimal.

 

I'd take him (and the circus) in a minute.  We need a tough guy on the line.

[BrentMc11]

Have you seen him play?

 

His skills don't warrant the attention, drama, ect...

Not sure I would take him, but I do think he would be fine with "our guys"  None seem to be incognito.....

 

As for the head case some are suggesting, there is one Vontae Davis who thought he was playing Tom Brady this year  WHA WHA WHAT?  

[Balzer40]

No, he's not very strong and he was terrible in Miami. Why people think he would do any better here is beyond me. He would get steamrolled playing guard and he's not better than either of our tackles, so what's the point? 

[BpG]

I'd rather have Incognito, seriously. 

[beavis]

Someone has to ask it.  If he doesn't face a severe suspension would you want Incognito?

[Dustin]

Someone has to ask it.  If he doesn't face a severe suspension would you want Incognito?

 

Nope.

[BrentMc11]

Someone has to ask it.  If he doesn't face a severe suspension would you want Incognito?

I personally want nothing to do with him.  I think our team leaders would kick his ___ if he pulled the same 'stuff' here.

 

Like Martin or not....the guy was a great student and person at Stanford.  Maybe he needs the right type of people around him.  Luck...Whalen...Fleener...Pep....This is not saying I want him...just saying....I do not want Incognito.

[Kenny]

Martin is a snake that we do not want or need slithering anywhere near our locker room.

[snowmobile]

we dont need the drama

[Balzer40]

Someone has to ask it.  If he doesn't face a severe suspension would you want Incognito?

 

 

 

I would take him over Martin any day. He may not be great but at least he's a proven player at a position we need(guard) over a weak(physically and mentally) tackle that has been below average since coming in the league. With that said, I still wouldn't be particularly excited to have a guy that demonstrates a little bit of psychotic behavior at times.

[Coffeedrinker]

The Colts don't need him running to his mommy when things get to hard.

[beavis]

I would rather reserve judgement until after the whole story comes out.  If it's all true and Incognito is crazy than not only do I not want him on this team, I don't think he deserves to play in the NFL and make millions of dollars.  If Martin is wrong than he needs to take some more time to get his head straight before he considers a comeback.   JMO

[Gavin]

Dont want Incognito for sure. I dont believe a word he says, he is a head case and not that good of a Guard. I'd give Martin a tryout as a backup Guard if Miami officially lets him go(I dont think they have as far as I know) but I wouldn't trade anything for him...Well I'd package Mcglynn and Satele to Miami   but Miami already knows Satele stinks  (they traded him....there 2007 2nd round pick after only 2 seasons)