Training camp August 7th 9 am

[Smonroe]

It was a bonehead play by Cross.  But Downs is going to be tackled to the ground many times this year (we hope).

 

Cross is right in that respect.  It’s football, stuff happens.  

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[tweezy32]

Yeah unfortunately Simmons about to sign with saints so now we have to deal with this *. Had to show everyone that he would have made that tackle in game. 

[BCMak24]

I hope downs is ok

[shasta519]

13 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

It was a bonehead play by Cross.  But Downs is going to be tackled to the ground many times this year (we hope).

 

Cross is right in that respect.  It’s football, stuff happens.  

 

Right? I see a lot of anger toward Cross and I understand it from a reactionary standpoint. But Downs is a WR who works over the middle quite often. Getting tackled is part of the job description. It's a football injury that happened while they were practicing. 

[ColtStrong2013]

11 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Yeah unfortunately Simmons about to sign with saints so now we have to deal with this *. Had to show everyone that he would have made that tackle in game. 

you are quick on the trigger. Are you his agent? How much is he signing for? 

[tweezy32]

Just now, ColtStrong2013 said:

you are quick on the trigger. Are you his agent? How much is he signing for? 

7m 

[Colt.45]

1 minute ago, shasta519 said:

 

Right? I see a lot of anger toward Cross and I understand it from a reactionary standpoint. But Downs is a WR who works over the middle quite often. Getting tackled is part of the job description. It's a football injury that happened while they were practicing. 

 

This is one of those "Both sides are probably right" situations.

 

It's football, it happens. It's also true that Cross had no business making that tackle in 7-7. Not a good look for a player who's struggling to be any good at the job. He's young and it shows with this one.

[ColtStrong2013]

Just now, tweezy32 said:

7m 

How much of that do you take home? 

[shasta519]

1 minute ago, Colt.45 said:

 

This is one of those "Both sides are probably right" situations.

 

It's football, it happens. It's also true that Cross had no business making that tackle in 7-7. Not a good look for a player who's struggling to be any good at the job. He's young and it shows with this one.

 

Agree. I think part of the overwhelming sentiment is because it's Cross and not another player.

 

If it was Blackmon or JuJu or some other entrenched starter, I think there would be more "it's unfortunate...but it's football." Might even be seen as a positive (not the injury, but the effort) that the Colts aren't messing around this year.

But it's a young, unproven player, so it doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt.

 

[RollerColt]

8 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

How much of that do you take home? 

Is it sad that I'd be giddy just to take home like 55K for year? 

[MFT5]

27 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

It was a bonehead play by Cross.  But Downs is going to be tackled to the ground many times this year (we hope).

 

Cross is right in that respect.  It’s football, stuff happens.  

not in 7 on 7 … yu limit contact for a reason … your mind and body is prepared for contact during the season w pads … even josh was more than likely thinking “wth are yu doing Nick?!?” 

[Colt.45]

Just now, shasta519 said:

 

Agree. I think part of the overwhelming sentiment is because it's Cross and not another player.

 

If it was Blackmon or JuJu or some other entrenched starter, I think there would be more "it's unfortunate...but it's football." Might even be seen as a positive (not the injury, but the effort) that the Colts aren't messing around this year.

But it's a young, unproven player, so it doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt.

 

Nailed it.

 

Young kid who's struggled. Knows his job is very at risk. Knows of the clamor for a vet. Still trying to level up. As bad as Downs will feel about this, Cross probably feels worse.

 

Nonetheless, that vet safety help can't come soon enough. That's the reality of the sport, don't wait till tomorrow to do that which must be done today.

[Indyfan4life]

So Cross tackles Downs in a 7v7 situation on an 3 yard pass and says “we’re just playing football”? What the #. What an absolute % show. This team cannot have one * nice thing, I swear. 

[John Waylon]

[Hawkeyecolt]

When it’s pretty clear that the expectation is don’t tackle during 7 on 7’s, it’s absolutely assinine that Cross made that play and then doubled down on it despite his coach clearly stating those expectations. 

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, Indyfan4life said:

So Cross tackles Downs in a 7v7 situation on an 3 yard pass and says “we’re just playing football”? What the #. What an absolute % show. This team cannot have one * nice thing, I swear. 

Yeah, that's my problem with it. It wasn't 11 on 11. It was 7v7... You absolutely have to have awareness of the situation. 

[GoColts8818]

Unless Downs was hurt badly I believe this is the definition of making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

still dumb and more sign Cross isn’t the answer.

 

has there been an update on Downs?

[ColtStrong2013]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Unless Downs was hurt I believe this is the definition of making a mountain out of a mole hill.

what.? 
 

he was hurt. He couldn’t put weight on his leg. We don’t know the extent of it yet. 

[ProblChld32]

1 hour ago, adubb84 said:

I didn’t read it as freaking out. I think she just meant we are weak at FS and took a ding on the WR front. 
 

side note - Cross doubles down on the tackle.  Called it “Football”

 

 

His response pisses me off because everyone is saying that he knows he shouldn’t have taken him to the ground. I don’t even think tackling was even live for the drill. 

[Indyfan4life]

1 minute ago, ProblChld32 said:

His response pisses me off because everyone is saying that he knows he shouldn’t have taken him to the ground. I don’t even think tackling was even live for the drill. 

We didn’t even tackle during 7V7 in high school. In what world would a pro decide to suddenly do this?

[adubb84]

1 minute ago, ProblChld32 said:

His response pisses me off because everyone is saying that he knows he shouldn’t have taken him to the ground. I don’t even think tackling was even live for the drill. 

His demeanor reads to me like someone who’s been hearing a bunch of dirt thrown on his name and is angry. However, don’t prove your worth by tackling your own damn teammate.  

[Colt.45]

Just now, ProblChld32 said:

His response pisses me off because everyone is saying that he knows he shouldn’t have taken him to the ground. I don’t even think tackling was even live for the drill. 

Young dude whose biggest struggles are mental. This is another big mental faux pas for him. All the physical gifts don't mean squat if the mental game doesn't catch up. The biggest thing with this in jury is the huge mental red flags Cross is once again showing.

 

 

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

We didn’t even tackle during 7V7 in high school. In what world would a pro decide to suddenly do this?

Same man. Same. And if you did tackle, it was laps... lot's and lot's of laps. 

[ColtStrong2013]

5 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

We didn’t even tackle during 7V7 in high school. In what world would a pro decide to suddenly do this?

7 on 7 when I was high school wasn’t technically tackle, but guys were going to the ground when the pads were colliding. It wasn’t two hand touch. People got rocked. 
 

my problem with this, and it’s solely based on what has been reported, is that it doesn’t sound like a hard hit after the catch. It was a full wrap up take down, which is not expected by anyone… and when a pass catcher doesn’t expect to be taken to the ground, an injury can absolutely happen. 

[MacDee1975]

1 hour ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

I may be the sole pessimist here on this, but a few months might be a dream. 

Regardless, we've seen this before... Having a great, or what some have said "dominant," camp and now an injury that may not just sideline him, but linger even if he does come back. Very unfortunate. I'm not one to make rash decisions, but man, this team has to be furious with Nick Cross right now. Justin Simmons value might have just been validated. 

 

Why is that?  You have some info that nobody else has been privy to?

[tweezy32]

50 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

How much of that do you take home? 

About 150k for this deal

[cdgacoltsfan]

Move over Fries and Pierce, we have a new whipping boy....this years victim is Nick Cross

[Boss7894]

People keep saying Anthony Gould is fast (and by people I mean the coaches) I don't get it though... so what? Because so was Downs...  Goulds is like a second rate Downs

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[twfish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Colts/s/hSAZCLipt7

 

I saw this scrolling on redit and was dying lol

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Maybe we dodged a bullet but a month is still a lot.

 

 

[ColtStrong2013]

16 minutes ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

Why is that?  You have some info that nobody else has been privy to?

Did I claim something that would lead you to think that? I simply said I may be the pessimist of the bunch here but a few months could be a dream. Meaning it could be worse than what everyone here is saying it will be. We don’t know the extent of it. It could be mild- and that would be fantastic. It could end up being devastating, which would make a few months seem like a dream. Make sense? 
 

edit: It was just announced it was a high ankle sprain… That’s a great thing. Again- I was being pessimistic. 

[CR91]

Just a high ankle sprain. Thank God. He might still play vs Houston 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

High ankle sprains can linger for a long time so he might be dealing with this all year.

[ColtStrong2013]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Maybe we dodged a bullet but a month is still a lot.

 

 

And a high ankle sprain can linger for an entire season. It sucks, no matter what way we want to look at it. 
 

I’ll still take downs on a bum ankle than not at all. 

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Just now, CR91 said:

Just a high ankle sprain. Thank God. He might still play vs Houston 

Hopefully he meant a month and not a month into the season.

[Superman]

High ankle sprain is 4-6 weeks, typically. 

 

Nick Cross should be running laps nonstop for the rest of camp. Players get hurt in practice all the time, so I'm not freaking out about it, but you don't tackle a teammate in a non contact session, and then shrug it off when reporters ask you about it. It's one of the dumber things I've seen from a Colts player in a while.