Colts vs. Steelers

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[richard pallo]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I will make another thread when the nfl preview comes out tomorrow. Looks like Brent’s will play getting a full week of practice. 
 

 

Speed as well.  Looking better.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

It would be the colts luck that watt comes back. Players don’t usually come back and his concussion was reported late. He still got a few extra days though even when reported late.

[1959Colts]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It would be the colts luck that watt comes back. Players don’t usually come back and his concussion was reported late. He still got a few extra days though even when reported late.

Hopefully Steichen prepares for Watt a little better than he did for Trey Hendrickson

[Myles]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It would be the colts luck that watt comes back. Players don’t usually come back and his concussion was reported late. He still got a few extra days though even when reported late.

Yeah, they last played on Thursday so they have a 3 day head start on the Colts.

On 12/11/2023 at 3:52 PM, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I don’t think a few days will make that much of a difference.

I think a few days do matter on a short week.  

[richard pallo]

12 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It would be the colts luck that watt comes back. Players don’t usually come back and his concussion was reported late. He still got a few extra days though even when reported late.

I’m expecting Veldheer to be activated if Smith can’t play.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, richard pallo said:

I’m expecting Veldheer to be activated if Smith can’t play.

That will be interesting if he does. He saved that LT spot when we needed him last time.

[richard pallo]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That will be interesting if he does. He saved that LT spot when we needed him last time.

Yep,  and he can play RT effectively as well.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[DynaMike]

IIRC doesn't TJ Watt generally line up on the right side? If so, that would be a huge mismatch against Freeland. Maybe Braden Smith would prefer to wait until next week to return lol? 

[RollerColt]

20 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

Being it’s a Saturday game that’s one less extra day. But it’s still quite possible he plays it looks like. 

[1959Colts]

43 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

It doesn't hurt the Colts with all the attention Watt's concussion keeps getting. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Was listening to Zack hicks podcast. He said he thinks colts need to go back to designed run plays and less RPO. There are apparently rules that hinder the run game in a RPO. Remember when Nelson told Reich can we get a straight run.

[Solid84]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Was listening to Zack hicks podcast. He said he thinks colts need to go back to designed run plays and less RPO. There are apparently rules that hinder the run game in a RPO. Remember when Nelson told Reich can we get a straight run.

I think we need to double down on the deep shots to Pierce. The run game won’t open up until defenses back off. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

 

[1959Colts]

39 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Was listening to Zack hicks podcast. He said he thinks colts need to go back to designed run plays and less RPO...

Just watching the last two game... this was obvious

It's like they've forgotten how to run the ball.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

6 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Just watching the last two game... this was obvious

It's like they've forgotten how to run the ball.

It worked against Bucs but not since. 

[chad72]

49 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

I think we need to double down on the deep shots to Pierce. The run game won’t open up until defenses back off. 

 

Obviously you have to get Minkah up to the box and be aware where Joey Porter Jr. is going to be, I am assuming. Most likely the safety help will rotate towards Pittman and you are right, we have to get a few shots to Pierce and loosen things up.

[1959Colts]

13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It worked against Bucs but not since. 

There are times, in every game, when a team needs to just line up and run the ball.

[Superman]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Was listening to Zack hicks podcast. He said he thinks colts need to go back to designed run plays and less RPO. There are apparently rules that hinder the run game in a RPO. Remember when Nelson told Reich can we get a straight run.

 

Watching the Bengals game, I felt that we needed to do less RPO and try more straight run game, including some power game. 

 

I don't think there are any rules that hinder the run in RPO, the blockers are treating it as a run play, so the QB needs to make his read quickly. If anything it hinders the passing game, leads to more ineligible downfield penalties, and forces the QB to get rid of the ball right away.

 

But RPO usually involves leaving a run defender unblocked, some of the eligible receivers are running routes instead of run blocking, and the QB is usually in shotgun so the play is only going one way. There are good things about RPO, but sometimes it's better to just commit to the run.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Watching the Bengals game, I felt that we needed to do less RPO and try more straight run game, including some power game. 

 

I don't think there are any rules that hinder the run in RPO, the blockers are treating it as a run play, so the QB needs to make his read quickly. If anything it hinders the passing game, leads to more ineligible downfield penalties, and forces the QB to get rid of the ball right away.

 

But RPO usually involves leaving a run defender unblocked, some of the eligible receivers are running routes instead of run blocking, and the QB is usually in shotgun so the play is only going one way. There are good things about RPO, but sometimes it's better to just commit to the run.

It has something to do with the olinman I think. I would have to go back and listen.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

If Watt plays I have a bad feeling about this game. Then add Fitzpatrick in the secondary with Minshew getting pressured it’s not a good matchup for Colts.  I expect a few turnovers by Minshew. Seems like a bad matchup for colts.

[RollerColt]

17 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Watching the Bengals game, I felt that we needed to do less RPO and try more straight run game, including some power game. 

 

I don't think there are any rules that hinder the run in RPO, the blockers are treating it as a run play, so the QB needs to make his read quickly. If anything it hinders the passing game, leads to more ineligible downfield penalties, and forces the QB to get rid of the ball right away.

 

But RPO usually involves leaving a run defender unblocked, some of the eligible receivers are running routes instead of run blocking, and the QB is usually in shotgun so the play is only going one way. There are good things about RPO, but sometimes it's better to just commit to the run.

I would like to see more runs and play action passes.

 

And to stay away from handing the ball off in shotgun formation. I understand Peyton did it often but that was when the pass was the major threat… 

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

I would like to see more runs and play action passes.

 

And to stay away from handing the ball off in shotgun formation. I understand Peyton did it often but that was when the pass was the major threat… 

Is Minshew historically bad when under center?  If I remember correctly, he is under center on most of the successful 4th down conversions (Pass to Pitt, and pass to Mo) as well as the extra point conversion against Cinci??  I could be wrong, but that's my recollection.  I think PA would be much improved if he ran a few more snaps from under center, even if a lot of them are runs.

Just my .02.

[RollerColt]

7 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Is Minshew historically bad when under center?  If I remember correctly, he is under center on most of the successful 4th down conversions (Pass to Pitt, and pass to Mo) as well as the extra point conversion against Cinci??  I could be wrong, but that's my recollection.  I think PA would be much improved if he ran a few more snaps from under center, even if a lot of them are runs.

Just my .02.

I don’t think he’s historically bad no. I think the reason we are shotgun so much is precisely because of RPO. It naturally requires a lot of shotgun to give the QB extra time to see what the defenders are doing and make that quick decision. 
 

But it also means the RB can’t always get up to full speed and react, hence why it can get blown up behind the line of scrimmage if the QB makes the wrong read and choice. I think RPO has its place in our offense and Steichen has it as his flavor, but I’m hoping next season we’ll see Richardson continue to improve his reads and maybe mix it up more. 
 

We’ll see. 

[Believe blue1306]

I don’t understand this whole “they have history on us so we’re going to lose” thing. Who cares. Different players and different coaches. It’s not the same. Colts beat the chiefs a lot but that doesn’t mean the colts will beat the chiefs. Just ask Andrew. 

[compuls1v3]

On 12/11/2023 at 1:18 PM, Superman said:

 

Question about this. Do people usually do resale through an official site? In which case, you don't know who's buying the tickets. And what would it take to find someone who is a Colts fan to buy at resale value?

A photo ID and a pic of Colts gear!!! lol. Not that it can't be photoshopped.

[compuls1v3]

I feel last game was the perfect game to set us up for a playoff run.  Get that loss out of the way, then go on a win streak to get in and then let the chips fall where they may.  Just about everything that could go wrong did go wrong.   Got it out of their system.  How our team and coach responds this  week will speak volumes to their character.  I believe Steichen has what it takes to lead our team to its first win of a run to the playoffs! Go Colts!!

[OLD FAN MAN]

10 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It would be the colts luck that watt comes back. Players don’t usually come back and his concussion was reported late. He still got a few extra days though even when reported late.

if we cant beat them with watt they are just better than us

[1959Colts]

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/12/13/23999650/is-saturday-a-must-win-for-the-colts

Stampede Blue

Is Saturday a must win for the Colts?

 

...is Saturday a must win?

The answer is, yes. Absolutely. Without a doubt. Of course. For sure.

The Colts must win on Saturday if they want to make the postseason. First off, the Steelers are in front of them in the standings. Beating a team you are competing with for a spot will most likely prove to be crucial. Secondly, they are at home. Losing pivotal late season games with home field advantage would be highly costly. Thirdly, there are simply too many teams waiting to take the seventh seed. Sure some of them will lose this week, but all of them won’t. Finally, a win in your conference is huge for tie-breaker scenarios. That is why the Colts are in the playoff picture to begin with. If the Colts don’t care of business on Saturday, they most likely forfeit control of their own destiny. That is somewhere no team wants to be down the home stretch...

[Flash7]

The Steelers will be playing their back up QB. They also have a low ranked pass blocking O-line. The defensive plan should be to use a lot of stunts and blitzes to pressure Trubisky, right? 

 

WRONG!!!!

 

We gotta make sure he's as comfortable as possible. No pressure and soft zone coverage. That's how we'll win. 

                                                                                   Signed - Defensive Coordinator Extraordinaire, Gus Bradley

[#12.]

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[#12.]

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[#12.]

Ignore that.  I forgot the game is at 4:30 and not 1:00.  Roof will definitely be closed.

[Stephen]

On 12/11/2023 at 6:33 PM, jvan1973 said:

I'll take that bet

I picked up browning and that worked well

[jemack]

Definitely take the under for this game...

[Colts1324]

I expect the Colts to win. It sucks to lose to Cincinnati, but we needed that. We needed our young players & coaches to get mad & go back to fixing the fundamentals. 

Last week, it just seemed meant to be. The muffed punt, missed calls on key plays (Kenny Moore & Nelson’s hold), busted screens passes, etc.

 

 

Now, we have a stretch run where we need to go 3-1 (with one being a win against the Steelers). If we do that, we SHOULD get into the playoffs with a healthy Taylor back into the fold. 

[craigerb]

3 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/12/13/23999650/is-saturday-a-must-win-for-the-colts

they are at home. Losing pivotal late season games with home field advantage would be highly costly.

Should be "WE are at home".

[Hammer]

On 12/12/2023 at 12:12 PM, Superman said:

 

The Steelers are a mess, every game they've won has been due to a bunch of flukey things happening late in the game. They just got beat by a terrible Patriots team. I think the Colts are better. And Trubisky is pretty bad.

 

But in the Steelers favor is the fact that they played last Thursday, so they'll be on nine days rest. The Colts will be on six days rest.

Nah, the Colts will be on 13 days rest.

[Dingus McGirt]

55 minutes ago, Hammer said:

Nah, the Colts will be on 13 days rest.

I see what you did there.