Colts vs Saints post game reaction

[IinD]

Just now, CoachLite said:

So I take it we lost?

[Solid84]

4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

This is what an elite RB looks like.  Along with McCaffrey.  They can stay in the game all three downs and a DC is never going to be able to tell if the NO or SF is going to pass or run.  

 

With our one dimensional RBs we cherish, our offense makes it kind of easy for opposing Ds to keep run-based MILBs in the game.

Kamara and McCaffrey are both top RBs and used frequently by their teams. It wouldn't be unrealistic or even a bad idea to have a guy shadow them all game... if you had one half decent in coverage.

[Blueblood23]

So the roster is not as strong as some believed.

[DougDew]

4 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Spot on. They are properly taking Leonard out on 3rd and long, unfortunately Zaire is also worthy of replacing. Zaire has value but reminds of Anthony Walker. Z makes more plays but also is often beaten by a step.

 LB'S that can cover are special.

Do we have JJ Domann somewhere?  IDK, I'm asking who else should be inserted?

[throwing BBZ]

29 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

And I'll offer this counter-argument:  This wasn't the plan.  The guys who played today weren't CB's plan.  The plan was to have Isaiah Rodgers and Dallis Flowers starting, with Kenny Moore playing nickel, JuJu Brents getting playing time, and the rest mostly playing special teams.  I'm not going to blame CB for where we are.  But I will blame CB if he doesn't find a replacement.  Because Brown is the worst DB in the league, and he proved it again today.

 

 Thank you John for this bit of  ReEducation. We really needed Flowers to stay healthy and get a season of experience. Knowing our fortune he will never get the great speed back 😪. 

[DougDew]

1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

Kamara and McCaffrey are both top RBs and used frequently by their teams. It wouldn't be unrealistic or even a bad idea to have a guy shadow them all game... if you had one half decent in coverage.

To cover Kamara, I'm guessing that player needs to be a safety and not a LB.  Supposedly, that would open up running plays for Kamara.  Not that his running is as big of a threat as receiving.

[Indeee]

6 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

So the roster is not as strong as some believed.

[Solid84]

Just now, DougDew said:

To cover Kamara, I'm guessing that player needs to be a safety and not a LB.  Supposedly, that would open up running plays for Kamara.  Not that his running is as big of a threat as receiving.

Well, Bobby Okereke is the 7th highest graded Coverage LB this season...

 

Coulda, woulda, shoulda and all that, but this still points to Ballard...

[Introspect]

53 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

 

And Shane wasn't interested in pulling him???

WTH!!!!

[coltsfanatic24]

Starting QB is out for the season and the defense is one of the worst I’ve seen. This team is headed for a top 5 pick. Need more playmakers on defense and offense

[OLD FAN MAN]

2 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Well, Bobby Okereke is the 7th highest graded Coverage LB this season...

 

Coulda, woulda, shoulda and all that, but this still points to Ballard...

ballard didnt think he was worth the money, 

[OLD FAN MAN]

1 minute ago, coltsfanatic24 said:

Starting QB is out for the season and the defense is one of the worst I’ve seen. This team is headed for a top 5 pick. Need more playmakers on defense and offense

i hope someone  else does the picking and not ballard

[DougDew]

6 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Well, Bobby Okereke is the 7th highest graded Coverage LB this season...

 

Coulda, woulda, shoulda and all that, but this still points to Ballard...

Good point. Just curious.  Is okereke in a better scheme that’s more suited to his coverage.  I don’t know much about the giants. 
 

im not disputing your overall point.  Just saying that I think kamara would beat okereke too. 

[Painterman]

28 minutes ago, six6ty said:

Who in their right mind even LIKES our secondary??

The apposing team 🤣

[GoColts8818]

7 minutes ago, Introspect said:

And Shane wasn't interested in pulling him???

WTH!!!!

And do what?  Go back to Baker?  It’s not like he has good options.

[coming on strong]

30 minutes ago, six6ty said:

Who in their right mind even LIKES our secondary??

bargin bin ballard

[IinD]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

And do what?  Go back to Baker?  It’s not like he has good options.

[Solid84]

3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Good point. Just curious.  Is okereke in a better scheme that’s more suited to his coverage.  I don’t know much about the giants. 
 

im not disputing your overall point.  Just saying that I think kamara would beat okereke too. 

I don't know and Kamara may beat him too, but my point is our LBs are bad at coverage - all of them. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a great coverage LB can keep up with a great RB. I also think every team needs this with how some of these TEs are dominating currently.

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, IinD said:

Exactly.  This is what happens when your top two corners get hurt and a guy you were counting on when you built the roster gets busted for gambling and suspended and you release him.  It’s not pretty and it’s not going to be pretty until Brents gets back.

[dw49]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Exactly.  This is what happens when your top two corners get hurt and a guy you were counting on when you built the roster gets busted for gambling and suspended and you release him.  It’s not pretty.  

 

I was and am disappointed that they released Rodgers. What did they have to lose by hanging on to him ? 

[CoachLite]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Exactly.  This is what happens when your top two corners get hurt and a guy you were counting on when you built the roster gets busted for gambling and suspended and you release him.  It’s not pretty.  

Intelligence needs priority over athleticism. It seems a player can be too athletic.

[IinD]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Exactly.  This is what happens when your top two corners get hurt and a guy you were counting on when you built the roster gets busted for gambling and suspended and you release him.  It’s not pretty.  

AR going down kind of killed it for us fans this year.

I honestly wasn't expecting much from a 6th rd pick.

 

We're just kind of direction less right now.

 

I'll be here watching the crap though... Lol

[CoachLite]

Solution: Ballard needs to hire better referees.

[DougDew]

5 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

I don't know and Kamara may beat him too, but my point is our LBs are bad at coverage - all of them. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a great coverage LB can keep up with a great RB. I also think every team needs this with how some of these TEs are dominating currently.

Maybe gus should try domann 

[CoachLite]

Just now, DougDew said:

Maybe gus should try domann 

Maybe Gus should coach for another team.

[compuls1v3]

27 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Spot on. They are properly taking Leonard out on 3rd and long, unfortunately Zaire is also worthy of replacing. Zaire has value but reminds of Anthony Walker. Z makes more plays but also is often beaten by a step.

 LB'S that can cover are special.

Yet we let Okereke, our only good coverage LB, go.....

[Introspect]

7 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

And do what?  Go back to Baker?  It’s not like he has good options.

Put Kenny Moore in his place. Blackmon comes in as nickel and Nick Cross takes Safety position...

Can;t be any worse.

At least this switch up is a plan. And  not just bend over and hold your toes.

[GoColts8818]

9 minutes ago, Introspect said:

Put Kenny Moore in his place. Blackmon comes in as nickel and Nick Cross takes Safety position...

Can;t be any worse.

At least this switch up is a plan. And  not just bend over and hold your toes.

Moore has been just as bad when he’s on the outside.  

[csmopar]

My thoughts:

 

I think the Colts wanted to see what Gus Bradley schemes could do with a competent offense. That has obviously failed. If Ballard is true with what he said, Gus is likely gone, if everyone is under evaluation this season.

 

leonard: he’s done. I went to multiple training camp practices and even said as far back as then that Leonard was playing slower than I’d ever seen him and that he wasn’t likely to ever make it back to the Darius version of old. He needs to be gone after this season.

 

the CBs: Good grief, walk over to Warren Central or Cathedral or Bloomington North and grab their starting CBs off their highschool squads. Any of them would do better than whoever we have now outside of Moore. 
 

Minshew needs to be a water boy. It’s a poor man Matt Ryan that we’re seeing this year. While Sam E is definitely not an answer at QB and I wouldn’t expect to see a win from Sam E, I’d rather watch that than Minshew looking lost every snap. Plus, I don’t know, we have a Coach who has developed some very good QBs, maybe he could turn Sam E into something serviceable as a backup that we will likely need that with the way AR plays. 
 

 

the good:

 

Moss& Taylor: I would cut Leonard and Cox, extend Zach moss at 7-8 million a year. Pair these two with AR in a two back set with Downs and hopefully a rookie game changer at WR , we might just be unstoppable.

 

Pierce : I’ve been hard on him but he showed flashes today. I still think Reggie is right on him, it’ll take him three years to get a route tree down. 

[DEColtsLover36]

1 hour ago, six6ty said:

As much of a pessimist I am about things right now, I believe we win next week. I do not believe we lose to the Panthers.

I still think we might win our game in Germany… 

[FanFromtheWasteland]

Why is it that whoever is our QB never seems to have any time in the pocket but the opposing QB has time to make a sandwich, eat it and then have another 10 seconds to decide where to throw it which there are many options since we give a 25 yard cushion to every receiver

 

Our Oline sux

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, FanFromtheWasteland said:

Why is it that whoever is our QB never seems to have any time in the pocket but the opposing QB has time to make a sandwich, eat it and then have another 10 seconds to decide where to throw it which there are many options since we give a 25 yard cushion to every receiver

 

Our Oline sux

1.  The Colts have zero pass rush.

 

2.  Freeland.  When Smith was in there the line played really well.  This is why I have been saying people need to appreciate how good Smith is at tackle and stop calling for him to be moved to guard because that’s what he played in college.

[Dingus McGirt]

38 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

I was and am disappointed that they released Rodgers. What did they have to lose by hanging on to him ? 

He didn’t fit “the Colture.”

[2006Coltsbestever]

14 minutes ago, FanFromtheWasteland said:

Why is it that whoever is our QB never seems to have any time in the pocket but the opposing QB has time to make a sandwich, eat it and then have another 10 seconds to decide where to throw it which there are many options since we give a 25 yard cushion to every receiver

 

Our Oline sux

I was thinking the same thing. I can run faster than Carr and he had 5 seconds to throw it on every down it seemed  

[richard pallo]

41 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

I don't know and Kamara may beat him too, but my point is our LBs are bad at coverage - all of them. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a great coverage LB can keep up with a great RB. I also think every team needs this with how some of these TEs are dominating currently.

I thought Okeroke was our best coverage linebacker last year.  I was very surprised we let him go.  Ballard always said we needed a coverage linebacker that could cover  tight ends and he lets him walk.

[Solid84]

6 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I thought Okeroke was our best coverage linebacker last year.  I was very surprised we let him go.  Ballard always said we needed a coverage linebacker that could cover  tight ends and he lets him walk.

I know we need a WR and a CB and maybe even a DE, but a true coverage LB is pretty high on my list. I'm so tired of seeing our LBs blow their coverage.

[2006Coltsbestever]

17 minutes ago, DEColtsLover36 said:

I still think we might win our game in Germany… 

[richard pallo]

Feel bad for Taylor.  One carry in the 2nd half.  And he misses out on a hundred yard game.  No one keeping stats I guess.  Steichen says he played the hot hand.  The best playmaker on the team neutralized in the second half by the team.  Brilliant!

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, richard pallo said:

Feel bad for Taylor.  One carry in the 2nd half.  And he misses out on a hundred yard game.  No one keeping stats I guess.  Steichen says he played the hot hand.  The best playmaker on the team neutralized in the second half by the team.  Brilliant!

Yep puzzling.

[husker61]

1 hour ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

zaire leads the league in tackles for gains!!

I have been saying this for years about colts lb’s that this board have said we’re so good and the colts have given big contracts too. My opinion was not very popular here at the time!! They make a lot of tackles, but they are 4+ yards down field. That’s not a top linebacker!