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59 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

No way TY is better then Odell.

 

I don't see Brissett as a top 3 backup either.  Maybe top 10 . . .

 

Agree about TY, although I'm guessing him being ranked higher has a lot to do with some uncertainty of whether OBJ will return to form after his injury last year. Not sure about 9 other teams having a better backup than Brissett though.

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1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Agree about TY, although I'm guessing him being ranked higher has a lot to do with some uncertainty of whether OBJ will return to form after his injury last year. Not sure about 9 other teams having a better backup than Brissett though.

 

Besides Philly, I’m not sure there are many teams with a better backup. Certainly not 9.

 

This article sums it up pretty well. 

 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/05/nfl-quarterback-rankings-siutation-backup-2018-draft-eagles-packers-patriots-carson-wentz-nick-foles

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1 hour ago, Four2itus said:

TY over the last 4 years - 4883 (Remove last year as our QB was injured...3917)

OB over the last 4 years - 4424 (Remove last year as Odell was injured...4122)

 

TY missed games in his first 6 years - 2

OB missed games in his first 4 years - 20

 

I'll stay at The Hilton.

Plus TY never got his * kicked by a kicking net.

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4 hours ago, Four2itus said:

TY over the last 4 years - 4883 (Remove last year as our QB was injured...3917)

OB over the last 4 years - 4424 (Remove last year as Odell was injured...4122)

 

TY missed games in his first 6 years - 2

OB missed games in his first 4 years - 20

 

I'll stay at The Hilton.

 

I love Hilton...but no way. OBJ is three years ago and on a HOF arc right now. OBJ has more TDs in that time frame you listed than Hilton has in his career (including last year).

 

It does get closer when you factor in contracts though. Hilton's deal was pretty favorable to the Colts...OBJ's deal won't be (to whichever team he signs with).

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17 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

No way TY is better then Odell.

 

I don't see Brissett as a top 3 backup either.  Maybe top 10 . . .

 

16 hours ago, Four2itus said:

TY over the last 4 years - 4883 (Remove last year as our QB was injured...3917)

OB over the last 4 years - 4424 (Remove last year as Odell was injured...4122)

 

TY missed games in his first 6 years - 2

OB missed games in his first 4 years - 20

 

I'll stay at The Hilton.

I signed in just to like this post. Great analysis and punch line!

TY could take his game to another level (greatness) if he works on not dropping balls. TY sometimes attempts to look for the big play before securing the ball when if he just secures the ball, The big play would have been the catch alone. Not dragging TY, but I want to see him blossom as that 1 on 1 type of smaller framed WR like Steve Smith that can go up and snag the catch every time!

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What I like about TY over Odell is the fact that even though he does some trash talking on the field, overall he just quietly does his job and makes plays.  I know he had made a few off remarks last year about the O-line blocking or something but you never see any huge emotional outbursts or sideline tantrums like you did with Odell.

 

Just my 2 cents.  But give me TY any day of the week,

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59 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Brian Hoyer

Matt Moore 

Drew Stanton 

Ryan Fitzpatrick

 

Just off the top of my head.  

 

Brian Hoyer?!?

Who's Matt Moore with?!?

What were Drew Stantons stats last year?!?

Ryan Fitzpatrick, now that's definitely a joke.

 

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5 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Brian Hoyer

Matt Moore 

Drew Stanton 

Ryan Fitzpatrick

 

Just off the top of my head.  

 

Moore isn’t on a team.  From what I’ve been reading, Hoyer may not make the Pats roster.   Stanton, the same with Cle.  And what has he done when he’s had the chance anyway.

 

I’ll give you Fitz because he’s a proven commodity.  So, unless you have more on the top of your head, that’s him and Foles.  So JB is at least top 3.  

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9 hours ago, Rackeen305 said:

 

I signed in just to like this post. Great analysis and punch line!

TY could take his game to another level (greatness) if he works on not dropping balls. TY sometimes attempts to look for the big play before securing the ball when if he just secures the ball, The big play would have been the catch alone. Not dragging TY, but I want to see him blossom as that 1 on 1 type of smaller framed WR like Steve Smith that can go up and snag the catch every time!

 

For me logic says the colts offense will be a lot more productive this year on offense. Even if Pagano were here or the old play callers were still here I truly anticipate an adiquite enough oline to make this offense role. I don’t care who the skill players are. Trenches. 

 

One other thing too. Hilton was drafted in the 3rd round, while OBJ was drafted 12th or 13th overall. Hilton isn’t that far off production wise vs OBJ. Not enough for me to think I absolutely need him on my team. 

 

I also want to see what Deon Cain can do for us this year. I keep hearing great things, and maybe, just maybe, we snagged another day 2-3 elite WR from the draft. 

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6 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Brian Hoyer

Matt Moore 

Drew Stanton 

Ryan Fitzpatrick

 

Just off the top of my head.  

Lindy's top 5 went this way  ( backup QB's )>>>>>  #1 Foles…..# 2  Bridgewater ( Jets )...…# 3 Jacoby...…..#4 Fitzpatrick (Bucs )...….# 5 Henne (Chiefs )… In different parts of this particular 2018 preview issue they always kept saying  positive things about Jacoby made me wonder that they may actual like Jacoby over Bridgewater.

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14 hours ago, HOF19 said:

Lindy's top 5 went this way  ( backup QB's )>>>>>  #1 Foles…..# 2  Bridgewater ( Jets )...…# 3 Jacoby...…..#4 Fitzpatrick (Bucs )...….# 5 Henne (Chiefs )… In different parts of this particular 2018 preview issue they always kept saying  positive things about Jacoby made me wonder that they may actual like Jacoby over Bridgewater.

 

Bridgewater is a big injury question mark.  But if he's fine then he's obviously up there.  (Although quite frankly I don't think it's quite clear at this point who's going to start for the Jets.)

 

I forgot about Foles.  He seems to be pretty good in the right offense.  

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Jacoby went 4-11 (didn’t start week 1) with one of the least talented teams in the league last year, plus learnt the playbook a week before the season began.

 

In a better system with a strong offensive line, better run game and less trash Defense (hopefully we have all three this year), I see no reason why he can’t hold the fort and deliver some wins if the worst case scenario of Luck not being ready week 1 happens to be.

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On 6/21/2018 at 10:25 AM, Narcosys said:

 

Brian Hoyer?!?

Who's Matt Moore with?!?

What were Drew Stantons stats last year?!?

Ryan Fitzpatrick, now that's definitely a joke.

 

Couldn’t agree more from start to finish. Those are all solid backups, but...Jacoby IMO has the tools to be a top 15-20 qb in the league. I live in Arizona and let me tell ya...Cards fans love them some Drew Stanton, but purely because of his sideline cheerleading. When he’s in the game, he’s 90% unwatchable 

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