Colts vs Panthers Predictions

[aaron11]

My point was to say the NFC South was pretty terrible last year. As bad as the AFC South has been I don't think it has ever been as bad as the NFC south was last year.  If we keep playing like trash this year it might end up that way though..

we are giving them a run for their money.  6-10 could win it this year

[O-Ther]

 

the problem is the colts division is not competitive with the rest of the league.  you could be a bottom 10(maybe 5) team and still win the south.  we also have a lot of those division banners already, and all too often they lead to one and done, or a blow out loss to the first real contender we play.

 

 

 

 

Yeah I know the storyline with the Colts. I'd count your division as a blessing. But just reading this forum the past couple days, seems most on here consider the AFC South a curse.

 

My perspective is how many of the teams you guys go 1 and done in the playoffs against have drafted in the top 10 consistently? How about occasionally? I'm not as up-to-date on the AFC or who you've played in the playoffs, but it seems that Patriots, Broncos, Steelers, and Ravens don't draft high or even top half all that much, either. To me, that speaks to scouting and draft tactics. I know because we did the same thing with our previous GM and previous coach. 

 

Coach Fox's first head coach job was here, and he was determined to win now. He wanted vets that could step in right away, and didn't spend the time to coach and develop the rookies we'd draft. So our GM at the time would spend big in free agency, spend big on players the coach liked, and draft according to what holes he couldn't fill in free agency. We need a DT? OK, let's take the top remaining DT (say the 8th best one) on the board even tho there's the #2 ranked Guard that would fill the position for 10 years and our starter there is a free agent next year. That approach left us never having back-to-back winning seasons, a very inconsistent team, unable to develop any depth and subject to rashes of injuries killing our season, and in salary cap purgatory.

 

Suffice to say a new coach in 2011 and new GM in 2013 have changed things around here. New philosophy is don't pay borderline free agents too much just because you recognize their name and were good in the past. Draft the best available player at the top of your board regardless of the position they play. Make sure the undrafted guys get reps with the starters instead of just being cannon fodder for the starters to practice against. Our current LG bloomed when he started getting a few practice reps with other 4 starting O-linemen against the defensive back-ups instead of being a tackling dummy for the defensive starters to practice against.

 

Went thru the whole lame duck coach thing in 2010 with Coach Fox that you're going thru with Coach Pagano. Not gonna pretend it's exactly the same situation. Just gonna say it was difficult for him to get the players to buy into what he was selling when they knew he didn't have the full confidence of the GM and team owner in the form of a contract extension. Why listen to someone when you know you'll be there next season and he won't? What a wasted season that was.

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Tolbert runs for 150+

Cam rushes for 60+ with 2 goaline ts

Mike Adams gets another pick

Lowery holds off Olsen but funchess has career game against Toler/Butler

luck throws 2 more picks

Offense goes 3 and out with 3 yds on first drive

we will have at least 2 big play first downs or touchdowns called back because of holding

we go into the half down 14

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

We come back and lose by 3

Luke kuechly... Has 12 tackles and 2 sacks

Norman gets one of the 2 picks luck will throw forcing it to Ty on the sideline

i am in no way trying to troll i seriously see this happening. ..... Let's pray that at least 3 of these don't and we're able to pull it out

there will be 6 times where somebody gets within inches of sacking cam and he will escape for a first down each time

[chad hugo]

colts will lose this one, pagano will be fired by the BYE week and the staff will follow in the offseason.

 

Mcafee will be the first punter in history to be named team mvp.

[2006Coltsbestever]

 

the problem is the colts division is not competitive with the rest of the league.  you could be a bottom 10(maybe 5) team and still win the south.  we also have a lot of those division banners already, and all too often they lead to one and done, or a blow out loss to the first real contender we play.

 

 

 

Not to be rude or sound cocky but your franchise is nowhere near as successful as ours has been. We have been to 2 SB's and won 1 and been in 5 Final 4's. You guys have been to 2 Final 4's/1 SB with no SB wins. I am just taking the Indianapolis resume since 1984. All of our success has been since 1995 when you guys were in the league too. So I'll just take last 20 seasons since 1995 - 5 Final 4's, 2 SB Apps, 1 SB win to your 2 Final 4's and 1 SB appearance so you cant use the expansion team argument. You guys are having a nice season so don't let it go to your to head. All that matters is what you do in the Playoffs. If you don't at least make the Final 4 here it's a failure. The way your season is going if you don't make the NFC Title Game it will be a fail IMO. Good luck on Monday, I like Cam and he is similar to Luck with the way they play. I was so happy when you guys beat Seattle.

[O-Ther]

And you tell this to a guy who's team (Panthers) is in a division where every single team ended up with a losing record last year?  Tell me when has everyone in the AFC South ended up with losing records?  I like his attitude "Keep Pounding".

 

Our dearly departed former LB and LB coach Sam Mills gave a speech to the team before playing the Cowboys in the playoffs during our Super Bowl run in 2004. He had just learned he had intestinal cancer and had about 2 months to live. Keep Pounding was his message and became the team's rallying cry when the new GM took over. He insisted when the NFL awarded the new uniform deal to Nike that when Nike re-designed the uniforms, Nike stitch the words Keep Pounding into the inside collar. Only team jersey in the league to have that feature.

 

His son Sam Mills III is an assistant defensive line coach with us, so the team has a tangible connection to the man that said it. Sure there's a bronze statue of Sam Mills outside the stadium and he's still the only Panther to have his number retired by the team, but looking at his son on a daily basis brings it back to a relatable level. An example is the player's twitter accounts. They're all using #KeepPounding this year. It's gone beyond a rallying cry and become a mantra since Thomas Davis won NFL Man of the Year and challenged everyone in the league to be better role models. Really hit home in the Panther locker room and is motivating the whole team.

[O-Ther]

Not to be rude or sound cocky but your franchise is nowhere near as successful as ours has been. We have been to 2 SB's and won 1 and been in 5 Final 4's. You guys have been to 2 Final 4's/1 SB with no SB wins. I am just taking the Indianapolis resume since 1984. All of our success has been since 1995 when you guys were in the league too. So I'll just take last 20 seasons since 1995 - 5 Final 4's, 2 SB Apps, 1 SB win to your 2 Final 4's and 1 SB appearance so you cant use the expansion team argument. You guys are having a nice season so don't let it go to your to head. All that matters is what you do in the Playoffs. If you don't at least make the Final 4 here it's a failure. The way your season is going if you don't make the NFC Title Game it will be a fail IMO. Good luck on Monday, I like Cam and he is similar to Luck with the way they play. I was so happy when you guys beat Seattle.

 

Sure you've had more success than us. That's something to be proud of. Has no bearing on the present, tho. Can't put that Lombardi trophy in the starting lineup.

 

LOL about all that matters is what we do in the playoffs. All we did last year was win our first playoff game in 10 years and we get no credit for that. We have the longest current regular season win streak at 10 games, yet we get no credit because of our opponents, even tho compared to the other unbeaten teams our opponents have the best winning percentage except for the Patriots. Denver, Green bay, and Cincy's opponents haven't won as many games as ours have, but we're described as having the softest schedule. Just the large market media pandering to their audience.

 

We've done our part so far beating Jax and Houston. You couldn't throw us a bone and beat the Saints? C'mon, man. Anyway, nice place you got here. I just might take off my coat and stay a while.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Sure you've had more success than us. That's something to be proud of. Has no bearing on the present, tho. Can't put that Lombardi trophy in the starting lineup.

 

LOL about all that matters is what we do in the playoffs. All we did last year was win our first playoff game in 10 years and we get no credit for that. We have the longest current regular season win streak at 10 games, yet we get no credit because of our opponents, even tho compared to the other unbeaten teams our opponents have the best winning percentage except for the Patriots. Denver, Green bay, and Cincy's opponents haven't won as many games as ours have, but we're described as having the softest schedule. Just the large market media pandering to their audience.

 

We've done our part so far beating Jax and Houston. You couldn't throw us a bone and beat the Saints? C'mon, man. Anyway, nice place you got here. I just might take off my coat and stay a while.

Now you know how we feel here in Indy. We beat Peyton in the Playoffs and make the Championship Game but all anyone whines about is how Tommy destroyed us . Once you start winning, the bar is set so high that anything less than going deep in the Playoffs is unacceptable. It's been like that since Peyton was here, thanks Peyton (sarcasm). I was glad to see Cam finally win a Playoff game. That is always good for the resume. Luck making a Final 4 in his 3rd season is amazing but most people just see the negatives unfortunately.

[O-Ther]

Now you know how we feel here in Indy. We beat Peyton in the Playoffs and make the Championship Game but all anyone whines about is how Tommy destroyed us . Once you start winning, the bar is set so high that anything less than going deep in the Playoffs is unacceptable. It's been like that since Peyton was here, thanks Peyton (sarcasm). I was glad to see Cam finally win a Playoff game. That is always good for the resume. Luck making a Final 4 in his 3rd season is amazing but most people just see the negatives unfortunately.

 

Got one of my relatives who's a big Patriot fan a deflated football for his wedding this summer. He looked at me and I said, "What's that look for? You've got a Viagra prescription"

 

Thanks for the Cam sentiment. His first couple years in the league he was portrayed as aloof, selfish, and not a leader. Lot of that was the locker room at the time he was drafted. A lot of overpaid vets owned that locker room and were happy with just half-a$$ing it while cashing that game check. Cam's youthful idealism about teamwork was falling on deaf ears. Pretty hard to soar like an eagle while surrounded by a bunch of turkeys. That's why if you look at the captain's C on Cam's jersey, you'll notice only 3 stars filled in despite this being his 5th year in the league. The players vote on that, and the vets based captaincy on the size of their contract. Cam was the first 1st rounder to not be paid a poo-ton of money as 1st overall pick, so they ignored him. Thankfully we got a new GM before Cam's third year and the ship started shaping up.

 

Sounds to me like a lot of your team's problems are similar to what we went thru with our old regime of Coach Fox and GM Hurney. Sign the big ticket free agents, then draft based on combine numbers or where your roster is thin. We got a lot of inconsistency out of that, plus a free trip to salary cap purgatory. Cleaning up the Colts front office would probably be a better idea than sending the coaches packing, but it might be too late for that with your bye week in two weeks. Grigson's probably gonna rearrange the furniture on the Titanic to save his job when in reality he's the iceberg the Colts ship struck.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Got one of my relatives who's a big Patriot fan a deflated football for his wedding this summer. He looked at me and I said, "What's that look for? You've got a Viagra prescription"

 

Thanks for the Cam sentiment. His first couple years in the league he was portrayed as aloof, selfish, and not a leader. Lot of that was the locker room at the time he was drafted. A lot of overpaid vets owned that locker room and were happy with just half-a$$ing it while cashing that game check. Cam's youthful idealism about teamwork was falling on deaf ears. Pretty hard to soar like an eagle while surrounded by a bunch of turkeys. That's why if you look at the captain's C on Cam's jersey, you'll notice only 3 stars filled in despite this being his 5th year in the league. The players vote on that, and the vets based captaincy on the size of their contract. Cam was the first 1st rounder to not be paid a poo-ton of money as 1st overall pick, so they ignored him. Thankfully we got a new GM before Cam's third year and the ship started shaping up.

 

Sounds to me like a lot of your team's problems are similar to what we went thru with our old regime of Coach Fox and GM Hurney. Sign the big ticket free agents, then draft based on combine numbers or where your roster is thin. We got a lot of inconsistency out of that, plus a free trip to salary cap purgatory. Cleaning up the Colts front office would probably be a better idea than sending the coaches packing, but it might be too late for that with your bye week in two weeks. Grigson's probably gonna rearrange the furniture on the Titanic to save his job when in reality he's the iceberg the Colts ship struck.

You have a good one in Cam, everytime I mention the Very Good QB's I put Cam in the discussion with Luck, Wilson, Big Ben, etc.. The only Elite QB's today are Brady and Rodgers IMO. Peyton and Brees are still dangerous though. Flacco's Ravens stink this season which is surprising and I think Eli is Very Good too but he has had some bad seasons. Having 2 SB wins in his back pocket over NE will always help him though in any debate.

[Introspect]

Panthers 37

Colts 9

[achcolts]

i havent been too confident with this team, but i think we can win this one. im more concerned about offense though

 

itll definitely be tough, but the defense really need to gameplan taking olsen out which would be huge. i think that the front 7 can contain/hold stewart to a slow day.

 

i really think the colts start upbeat this game, and see bradshaw more in the mix. this game really depends on the offense though. im not too worried about the d stopping their offense, its doable

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Not sure of the score. Panthers are not usually a team that blows out their opponents.

But the Colts will get Physically Punished and Beat Up in this game.

[bap1331]

Cmon seriously, who has cam faced? Jaguars, Houston, buccaneers, seahawks, and a horrid Philly. Don't even say that the seahawks game was impressive bc we all know this isn't the 2013 or 2014 seahawks.

[bap1331]

I'll say 28-10 Panthers. Josh Norman has been crazy for the Panthers this year, and I believe he will shut down TY Hilton. I don't see much offense from us and we will get whipped pretty handily.

Pfft...shut down Hilton? That's like saying, "target vontae davis". Ty will not be shut down. He only gets angrier throughout the game.

And you really need to get out of the glass half empty and go into the glass half full analogy.

[NewColtsFan]

Pfft...shut down Hilton? That's like saying, "target vontae davis". Ty will not be shut down. He only gets angrier throughout the game.

And you really need to get out of the glass half empty and go into the glass half full analogy.

 

Sorry,  but your glass isn't half full.

 

With your optimism,  your glass is filled to the top.

[O-Ther]

Cmon seriously, who has cam faced? Jaguars, Houston, buccaneers, seahawks, and a horrid Philly. Don't even say that the seahawks game was impressive bc we all know this isn't the 2013 or 2014 seahawks.

 

And if we beat the Colts, our next opponent, the Packers, will say the exact same thing as you just did. "Who did Cam face? the Colts? Pfft, please. Colts are 3-5, Luck sucks this year, and they've got the worst defense in the league."

 

Btw, you sound exactly like every fan base we've played so far. Can't wait to prove you wrong, too.

[O-Ther]

Pfft...shut down Hilton? That's like saying, "target vontae davis". Ty will not be shut down. He only gets angrier throughout the game.

And you really need to get out of the glass half empty and go into the glass half full analogy.

 

Just gonna leave this here:

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/22/what-makes-josh-norman-top-nfl-cornerback/

[King Colt]

If Luck lays down again it is time for Hasselbeck to come back in for a game or two. This needs to be for the team, not the QB. Perhaps the impact will wake Luck up. Luck is making the same mistakes over and over and over so I am wondering is he not coachable. How do you look at films for going on four seasons and continue to repeat your mistakes? Don't lose sight of the fact that the Colts are not good, take away the divisions and they are near the bottom of the AFC. The AFC South is the laughing stock.

[NFLfan]

Sure you've had more success than us. That's something to be proud of. Has no bearing on the present, tho. Can't put that Lombardi trophy in the starting lineup.

LOL about all that matters is what we do in the playoffs. All we did last year was win our first playoff game in 10 years and we get no credit for that. We have the longest current regular season win streak at 10 games, yet we get no credit because of our opponents, even tho compared to the other unbeaten teams our opponents have the best winning percentage except for the Patriots. Denver, Green bay, and Cincy's opponents haven't won as many games as ours have, but we're described as having the softest schedule. Just the large market media pandering to their audience.

We've done our part so far beating Jax and Houston. You couldn't throw us a bone and beat the Saints? C'mon, man. Anyway, nice place you got here. I just might take off my coat and stay a while.

You should definitely stay a while. There are not too many fans of NFC teams, perhaps just about 5 of us. I appreciate your posts. This is one of the best forums around.

The Panthers are a good example of a team who defied the fans and media and retained their coach when everyone wanted him fired. They showed confidence in Rivera and it seems that the team played hard for him. He went on to win Coach of the Year award and the Panthers have played well. I like that they are not signing big name free agents but leaders like a Jericho Cotchery. (Is he still with the Panthers?) As you suggested in an earlier post, teams seem to fare better when there is continuity and not a huge turnover of players (as in the case of the Eagles). I call it the Ted Thompson approach. I am pleased that my team has begun to use this approach too -- build through the draft and retain your good players.

Anyway, I hope to see you post beyond this week.

[amfootball]

And if we beat the Colts, our next opponent, the Packers, will say the exact same thing as you just did. "Who did Cam face? the Colts? Pfft, please. Colts are 3-5, Luck sucks this year, and they've got the worst defense in the league."

 

Btw, you sound exactly like every fan base we've played so far. Can't wait to prove you wrong, too.

The whole league is down this year which is why there is still so many undefeated teams. So it is easy for rival fans to say a team has not played anyone as that is true of everyone.

 

I like the Panthers a lot this year. I still don't trust Cam but he seems to be progressing which is a good sign. Too bad your GM did not give him more weapons this year. Outside of your TE, he has literally no one.

[VAcoltsfan]

I think this game has pretty big implications and I say this for a few reasons.  With all the attention of the national media on the shortcomings of the organization and the high expectations they had for the Colts this year, I think this game and next are going to define the season if it hasn't already been defined.  With all the hot and cold playing (more cold than hot I will add) this teams needs to put together a full game.  With Andrew healthy, as far as we know, and many of the coaches playing for their jobs what better of a stage to put them on then MNF against an undefeated team.  A team we all thought we might be going into the season.  This game will be a prove it game I think.  Can these coaches and players put together a 60 minute game.  Its time to keep Grigson honest and all the moves he made to make this team what he thought would be a contender.  We have CAR and DEN and then a BYE week.  DEN may not be undefeated by the time we play them but both teams are playing great DEF.  If we take both losses because Grigson refused to do anything about the OLine then I would say all options are on the table.  Irsay is not going to take any type of public loss lightly after how this season has panned out so far, especially on MNF.  Pagano has said he is going to fight this thing out and right this season.  I think Pep feels the same way.  Either we come out and make a statement or heads will roll in the BYE week.

[bababooey]

The whole league is down this year which is why there is still so many undefeated teams. So it is easy for rival fans to say a team has not played anyone as that is true of everyone.

 

I like the Panthers a lot this year. I still don't trust Cam but he seems to be progressing which is a good sign. Too bad your GM did not give him more weapons this year. Outside of your TE, he has literally no one.

Benjamin going down in camp wasn't helpful either.

[bababooey]

Expecting a complete butt kicking. Maybe the schedule makers will take away a few prime time games from us since we tend to shrink under the small lights of SNF and MNF. Let us keep the Texans on the road on Thursday though that always works out.

[jet1968]

2-0

[azcolt]

Panthers 42, Pagano's job next Monday 0

[Zoltan]

34-17 Panthers win Cam will have over 30 yards rushing and 1 rushing touchdown, Also Norman will have at least 1 interception and there will be one fumble from a running back or returner

[CanuckColt]

Panthers 27, Colts 17.

[OLD FAN MAN]

I just want us to at least compete and not be the laughing stock of the nfl

[2006Coltsbestever]

And if we beat the Colts, our next opponent, the Packers, will say the exact same thing as you just did. "Who did Cam face? the Colts? Pfft, please. Colts are 3-5, Luck sucks this year, and they've got the worst defense in the league."

 

Btw, you sound exactly like every fan base we've played so far. Can't wait to prove you wrong, too.

I will give you credit for beating us. We are not on our game right now but that is our fault not Carolina's. Cam is a Very Good QB.

[2006Coltsbestever]

You should definitely stay a while. There are not too many fans of NFC teams, perhaps just about 5 of us. I appreciate your posts. This is one of the best forums around.

The Panthers are a good example of a team who defied the fans and media and retained their coach when everyone wanted him fired. They showed confidence in Rivera and it seems that the team played hard for him. He went on to win Coach of the Year award and the Panthers have played well. I like that they are not signing big name free agents but leaders like a Jericho Cotchery. (Is he still with the Panthers?) As you suggested in an earlier post, teams seem to fare better when there is continuity and not a huge turnover of players (as in the case of the Eagles). I call it the Ted Thompson approach. I am pleased that my team has begun to use this approach too -- build through the draft and retain your good players.

Anyway, I hope to see you post beyond this week.

I agree

[Joat1977]

34 - 24 Panthers.

[krunk]

This Carolina game reminds me a lot of when we had to travel and play against San Francisco 2 years ago. Everybody said the Niners D would eat us alive and Caepernick and Gore would smash us(actually gore did smash us!). Now we have everybody saying the Panthers D will eat us alive and Cam and those runners will smash our D line. I think we will show up on Monday night and play how we did in that game. I believe we will play Colts football in this one.

[Jonathan24]

Colts lose 35-7

[2006Coltsbestever]

This Carolina game reminds me a lot of when we had to travel and play against San Francisco 2 years ago. Everybody said the Niners D would eat us alive and Caepernick and Gore would smash us(actually gore did smash us!). Now we have everybody saying the Panthers D will eat us alive and Cam and those runners will smash our D line. I think we will show up on Monday night and play how we did in that game. I believe we will play Colts football in this one.

19-17 Colts. We got this. My predictions are usually 50/50, Ive been wrong lately but it's about to change.

[Jonathan24]

This Carolina game reminds me a lot of when we had to travel and play against San Francisco 2 years ago. Everybody said the Niners D would eat us alive and Caepernick and Gore would smash us(actually gore did smash us!). Now we have everybody saying the Panthers D will eat us alive and Cam and those runners will smash our D line. I think we will show up on Monday night and play how we did in that game. I believe we will play Colts football in this one.

 

I thought we would play COLTS FOOTBALL last week but we see how that turns out

[krunk]

I thought we would play COLTS FOOTBALL last week but we see how that turns out

 

I was kind of iffy on that Saints game although I thought we would run the ball well.  I felt like we had a chance to lose up against Brees because he can put points on the board and our offense is not putting enough pressure on opponents right now to go back and forth.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I was kind of iffy on that Saints game although I thought we would run the ball well.  I felt like we had a chance to lose up against Brees because he can put points on the board and our offense is not putting enough pressure on opponents right now to go back and forth.

Cam is good but Brees is a SB Champion. I thought we would win Sunday but Brees is capable of beating anyone.

[ricker182]

Cam is good but Brees is a SB Champion. I thought we would win Sunday but Brees is capable of beating anyone.

He made some great throws and looked to be 100% again.

 

Kudos to him.

 

But I still think we beat ourselves in that game with the turnovers.

 

Then they decided to let us back in the game for some odd reason.