Coach Pagano: Some advice if you want to hold the Lombardi

[lollygagger8]

This is not mine and I'm not taking credit for it, but this is a great letter written by a Colts fan in New England to Coach Pagano. 

 

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/1/19/7852601/coach-pagano-some-advice-if-you-want-to-hold-the-lombardi

 

[sfergson727]

Great article and I agree with it 100%  Nice guys finish last, it's not just a saying, it is an NFL fact.

[jvan1973]

Great article and I agree with it 100% Nice guys finish last, it's not just a saying, it is an NFL fact.

Tom Landry, Tony Dungy, Chuck Knoll. All nice guys with sb rings

[Jason_]

Great article and I agree with it 100%  Nice guys finish last, it's not just a saying, it is an NFL fact.

 

no....it's not

[bababooey]

no....it's not

Then Peyton should have more than 1 freakin ring and not take sole blame for every single playoff loss like he does.

[NagelHausForge]

If you're not first, you're last!!

[pgt_rob]

We did what we could with who we had. We have a handful of nice play makers and 2 handfuls of decent guys that can sometimes make a play. Need more talent.

[Jason_]

Then Peyton should have more than 1 freakin ring and not take sole blame for every single playoff loss like he does.

 

um, what?

[bababooey]

um, what?

You said nice guys don't finish last which isn't true. We see cheaters like the Pats in the superbowl, outspoken arrogant loud mouths like the Seahawks in the superbowl, possible murderers posing as reverends like Ray Lewis riding into the sunset in the superbowl.

[jskinnz]

Great article and I agree with it 100%  Nice guys finish last, it's not just a saying, it is an NFL fact.

 

Don't think you have a clue to the difference between opinion and fact.  For instance, the comment above...

[sfergson727]

no....it's not

Yeah, Well, uh, that's like, uh, your opinion man.  ;)

 

Show me a nice coach, aside from T. Dungy that won the Superbowl recently.

[sfergson727]

Don't think you have a clue to the difference between opinion and fact.  For instance, the comment above...

See my response to Jason....and stop taking everything so dang literal.  People like you drive me insane.

 

Oh, btw.  Look back on my previous conversations on this forum, you'll find I am dead on most of the time.  Which makes me wonder, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

[jvan1973]

Yeah, Well, uh, that's like, uh, your opinion man. ;)

Show me a nice coach, aside from T. Dungy that won the Superbowl recently.

Pete Carrol, last season and he is headed to one in two weeks as well

[bababooey]

Pete Carrol, last season and he is headed to one in two weeks as well

You mean the guy that ripped Sanchez for leaving USC as a junior then left a year later when he found out his school was being sanctioned so he got out just in time?

[jskinnz]

See my response to Jason....and stop taking everything so dang literal.  People like you drive me insane.

 

Oh, btw.  Look back on my previous conversations on this forum, you'll find I am dead on most of the time.  Which makes me wonder, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

 

You being dead on?  Thanks for the laugh.

[jvan1973]

You mean the guy that ripped Sanchez for leaving USC as a junior then left a year later when he found out his school was being sanctioned so he got out just in time?

How is that relevant to his current job?

[Jason_]

See my response to Jason....and stop taking everything so dang literal.  People like you drive me insane.

 

Oh, btw.  Look back on my previous conversations on this forum, you'll find I am dead on most of the time.  Which makes me wonder, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

 

if you don't want people to take you literally, then try doing a better job of saying what you mean.  we can't read your mind...we can only read what you type.  

[Jason_]

You said nice guys don't finish last which isn't true. We see cheaters like the Pats in the superbowl, outspoken arrogant loud mouths like the Seahawks in the superbowl, possible murderers posing as reverends like Ray Lewis riding into the sunset in the superbowl.

 

I didn't say that only nice guys win superbowls.  I simply disagreed with the notion that nice guys always finish last.  that's not true.  

[Coltscek]

Excellent! I've been saying this all year. To bad coach got cancer, I have cancer and heart desease, no one feels sorry for me. Good coaches and good staffs improve the personnel they have during the season, the Colts regress, enough said!

[bababooey]

How is that relevant to his current job?

He came to the NFL because his team was about to get crushed in NCAA sanctions. He is not a "nice guy" in the way that someone like the Mannings or Chuck are nice guys.

[sfergson727]

Pete Carrol, last season and he is headed to one in two weeks as well

HAHAHA  You think Pete Carrol is a nice guy...okie dokie then.

[Superman]

Excellent! I've been saying this all year. To bad coach got cancer, I have cancer and heart desease, no one feels sorry for me. Good coaches and good staffs improve the personnel they have during the season, the Colts regress, enough said!

 

Goodness, this is a ridiculous post. 

[grmasterb]

Are Mike Tomlin and Mike McCarthy not nice guys? Coughlin does have a drill sergeant reputation (although he claims to have tried to soften in recent years) and Sean Payton's reputation has certainly diminished.

[jvan1973]

HAHAHA You think Pete Carrol is a nice guy...okie dokie then.

many people do

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/23/pete-carroll-seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-48/

[Jhaze55]

None of you know any of the coaches in real life. You just know how they are portrayed in the media.

 

The "Nice guys finish last" mantra is ridiculous.

[deedub75]

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'! 

[sfergson727]

many people do

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/23/pete-carroll-seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-48/

Interesting read, I still don't buy that he qualifies as a "nice guy" in the same way that Pags is (and that is not derogatory, I do like Pags) but I appreciate the link, thanks!

[throwing BBZ]

If you want to win Championships the next 5-6 years a new staff Now.
Josh McDaniel as HC.
New O-Line coach.
New DC
 
 

 Grigs is a ?
 Richardson

 Landry

 Cherilus
 McGlynn
 Satele
 RJF
  and several draft picks.

[jvan1973]

If you want to win Championships the next 5-6 years a new staff Now.

Josh McDaniel as HC.

New O-Line coach.

New DC

Grigs is a ?

Richardson

Landry

Cherilus

McGlynn

Satele

RJF

and several draft picks.

Mcdaniels? Yeah, he was a great coach and talent evaluator. They drafted Tebow in the first round

[CanuckColt]

Wow...bang on!  but Coach Chuckles is a stubborn one...and won't change. 

Some time in the future, after a few more years of Coach Chuckles' same-old same-old, Irsay will finally have had enough and let him go...then we can get rolling again.

[jvan1973]

Wow...bang on! but Coach Chuckles is a stubborn one...and won't change.

Some time in the future, after a few more years of Coach Chuckles' same-old same-old, Irsay will finally have had enough and let him go...then we can get rolling again.

How many conversations have you had with him about his willingness to accept change ? I noticed you weren't here trolling on our way to the AFCCG

[crazycolt1]

If you want to win Championships the next 5-6 years a new staff Now.

Josh McDaniel as HC.

New O-Line coach.

New DC

 

 

 Grigs is a ?

 Richardson

 Landry

 Cherilus

 McGlynn

 Satele

 RJF

  and several draft picks.

:yeahright:

[NewColtsFan]

That was a silly juvenile post likely written by a teenager with way too much time on his hands.

 

Another embarrassing thread.......

 

Can't wait for us to be able to move past this.....

 

I'm sorry here no one seems to know we reached the AFC Championship game.

 

We've been in the playoffs all three years under Grigson and advanced further each year...    anyone expecting more is simply uninformed and uneducated and......

 

Spoiled.....

[cmgww]

I know Pete Carroll gets a lot of flack, deservedly so, but he does some really interesting things with his team. The Seahawks utilize meditation, having a DJ at practice, different motivational techniques, etc. I remember him doing some crazy stuff at USC (not the illegal things, I mean with the team) in order to get them going. It's really "new agey" and maybe would only work in a city like LA/Seattle....but he has the results.....maybe the Colts should look into this. Who knows?

[BOTT]

I know Pete Carroll gets a lot of flack, deservedly so, but he does some really interesting things with his team. The Seahawks utilize meditation, having a DJ at practice, different motivational techniques, etc. I remember him doing some crazy stuff at USC (not the illegal things, I mean with the team) in order to get them going. It's really "new agey" and maybe would only work in a city like LA/Seattle....but he has the results.....maybe the Colts should look into this. Who knows?

.....and they drafted a boatload of really good players lol.

[04DarkShadowGT]

Then Peyton should have more than 1 freakin ring and not take sole blame for every single playoff loss like he does.

Being nice has nothing to do with why Manning has only one ring.  Love Peyton, ever grateful for what he has done for this City and organization, but he didnt rise to the occasion and deserved a lot of blame for those loses.

[TKnight24]

Being nice has nothing to do with why Manning has only one ring. Love Peyton, ever grateful for what he has done for this City and organization, but he didnt rise to the occasion and deserved a lot of blame for those loses.

You guys are mixing up nice too much

Nice off the field is true. Carroll isn't nice on the field. You mess up, he gets in your face. Keeps you motivated, and gets you fired up. Guys like Harbaugh & Tomlin after losses say what's real. Guys like Pagano give that same tired speech "We have a good team, we just need to play better"

Tomlin says things like "We stunk it up today. Played terrible."

There's a difference

[Jason_]

Yeah, Well, uh, that's like, uh, your opinion man. ;)

Show me a nice coach, aside from T. Dungy that won the Superbowl recently.

How about jim harbaugh and tom coughlin? Or are they secretly members of the injustice league? [emoji14]

[sfergson727]

How about jim harbaugh and tom coughlin? Or are they secretly members of the injustice league? [emoji14]

Both of those guys are tough as nails, although I like both of them, they are definitely nice guys.....Unless you think SF got let Harbaugh go for being too nice?  (I wish he came here instead of going to Michigan, but that is just me)

 

Members of the Injustice league?  They are charter members my friend!  

[sfergson727]

You guys are mixing up nice too much

Nice off the field is true. Carroll isn't nice on the field. You mess up, he gets in your face. Keeps you motivated, and gets you fired up. Guys like Harbaugh & Tomlin after losses say what's real. Guys like Pagano give that same tired speech "We have a good team, we just need to play better"

Tomlin says things like "We stunk it up today. Played terrible."

There's a difference

Exactly.  Thank you.

 

I'd much rather players have a little fear towards their coach, not someone who is a best friend.