Indeee Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The Colts went hard at signing Levitre. Buffalo is not using tag or in contract talks to date. Looks like he's gonna walk. Colts might snag this guy. Oh he's a gaurd for those of you who don't know Andeeee.. Ha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The problem is he comes from a zone blocking scheme and doesn't exactly fit the mauler that this scheme supposedly will call for. No question he has excellent technique though and seems intelligent enough to know if he can make the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I would love it if we got him. Guard is our weakest spot on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Would rather have Louis Vasquez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 John Hannah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Would rather have Louis Vasquez.Either. Or even better, both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think if you're expecting Buffalo to let Levitre walk out the door for nothing, you're going to be very disappointed. There is still time for them to apply a tag if need be. But, they may want to save that for Jarius Byrd. But even if that's the case, they'll do everything they can to retain him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think if you're expecting Buffalo to let Levitre walk out the door for nothing, you're going to be very disappointed. There is still time for them to apply a tag if need be. But, they may want to save that for Jarius Byrd. But even if that's the case, they'll do everything they can to retain him....I would be shocked if they didn't tag Byrd. He might be the best player on their team and the tag for safeties is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peytonparker Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Would rather have Louis Vasquez.Would love to have both these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I would be shocked if they didn't tag Byrd. He might be the best player on their team and the tag for safeties is cheap. They are working on a longterm deal for Byrd so the franchise tag may not be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 We can draft a Big Hog in rd three that will give us what LeVitre can`t. Not that he isn`t a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 If we are drafting olinemen it will be to groom them not for them to come in and play. Like the sound of that. Have seen lots of top linemen picked to only be outdone by later round guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 If we are drafting olinemen it will be to groom them not for them to come in and play. Like the sound of that. Have seen lots of top linemen picked to only be outdone by later round guys.Yeah, I'd rather have guys who are veterans protecting the franchise, while the rookies learn the craft during practice or when Andrew is wearing the red shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The only Rookie Lineman I see coming outta this Draft & Starting is Chance Warmack. Everyone else will probably sit. But then again, the Team you get Drafted by also impacts your Starting Chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The only Rookie Lineman I see coming outta this Draft & Starting is Chance Warmack. Everyone else will probably sit. But then again, the Team you get Drafted by also impacts your Starting Chances If Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson and Jonathan Cooper don't start day one I will eat my hat. And there will be plenty more on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 If Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson and Jonathan Cooper don't start day one I will eat my hat. And there will be plenty more on top of that.What kind of hat we talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 What kind of hat we talking? I doubt it matters too much, I don't think I'll be needing it, but more than likely this... http://incrediblediary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nacho-hat_eGPDw_6648.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I doubt it matters too much, I don't think I'll be needing it, but more than likely this... http://incrediblediary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nacho-hat_eGPDw_6648.jpgLol, nice one!! Need to keep that bet in my pocket for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I doubt it matters too much, I don't think I'll be needing it, but more than likely this... http://incrediblediary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nacho-hat_eGPDw_6648.jpg You look a lot different with your hat on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Blocking schemes isn't that big of a deal when it comes to offensive lineman. Still have to get a hat on a hat in the run game to be successful. Leverage, helmet placement, and feetwork and an OL will be successful in either scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Blocking schemes isn't that big of a deal when it comes to offensive lineman. Still have to get a hat on a hat in the run game to be successfulMore to it then that, if your O Linemen gets a hat on a hat in a Man Blocking scheme then he best be able to maul his opposition off the LOS if not then ya just picked up Seth Olsen 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I think we are going to go after a lineman or two in free agency. I think we are still waiting to see who exactly will be on the market in terms of lineman. A couple of guys like Levitre or Vollmer are going to impact who the top linemen are in this free agency class. If the Bills and Pats figure out a way to keep both (even with the franchise tag which has been rumored for Vollmer) then the next guys behind them have their value go up. If they are out there I think Grigson will look into both but I also think Grigson would be happy to sign a cheaper guy if he thinks the talent gap between the other guy and Levirte or Vollmer is less than the money gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 More to it then that, if your O Linemen gets a hat on a hat in a Man Blocking scheme then he best be able to maul his opposition off the LOS if not then ya just picked up Seth Olsen 2.0You don't have to maul him,provide the initial punch get between the defender and the ball and at least hold your ground don't get drove back, and And let the running back work. Mauling him just separates good OL from great ones.Seth Olsen failed to get between his man and the ball and his leverage on run play was terrible and as a result got drove constantly. Anthony Castonzo isn't a Mauler but he gets between his man and the ball and holds his ground, running back cuts off his block on the edge, mission complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 You don't have to maul him,provide the initial punch get between the defender and the ball and at least hold your ground don't get drove back, and And let the running back work. Mauling him just separates good OL from great ones.Seth Olsen failed to get between his man and the ball and his leverage on run play was terrible and as a result got drove constantly. Anthony Castonzo isn't a Mauler but he gets between his man and the ball and holds his ground, running back cuts off his block on the edge, mission completeYep I know but you have to be able to have that initial punch and not all O Linemen have that power to jolt a D Linemen to where he can begin to use the leverage created from that jolt, As for Seth Olsen he failed to do alot of things last year and getting between his man and the ball was just one, I still have that image of him vs the Bears pulling out to clear the LE Idonije out of the way but Olsen just looked way way way off balance as he was pulling out and running at him and it showed upon the collision, Olsen got blasted leaving Brown nowhere to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I honestly don't care how Grigson builds the oline, cause I know he'll give it his best effort.But like I've said before, we have an Ex-Offensive Lineman as our GM. If we do not get a decent/good offensive line, there's something wrong with that picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Yep I know but you have to be able to have that initial punch and not all O Linemen have that power to jolt a D Linemen to where he can begin to use the leverage created from that jolt, As for Seth Olsen he failed to do alot of things last year and getting between his man and the ball was just one, I still have that image of him vs the Bears pulling out to clear the LE Idonije out of the way but Olsen just looked way way way off balance as he was pulling out and running at him and it showed upon the collision, Olsen got blasted leaving Brown nowhere to runFunny, I have that same image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United We Stand Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Vasquez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I don't know either of these guys . But if everyone on here wants them, they must be pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Blocking schemes isn't that big of a deal when it comes to offensive lineman.So, how long have you not known what you were talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So, how long have you not known what you were talking about?I guess since I stopped playing college football since my sophomore year at Texas State University playing back up RT and special teams in college. So yea I guess I never knew what I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Blocking schemes isn't that big of a deal when it comes to offensive lineman. Still have to get a hat on a hat in the run game to be successful. Leverage, helmet placement, and feetwork and an OL will be successful in either schemeI agree with you mostly. I think certain players play better in certain schemes but for the most part I think that a good offensive linemen can adapt to the scheme. Some people are concerned that Levitre is a smaller guard who has played in a zone scheme and may not be as successful outside of that scheme. I don't buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So yea I guess I never knew what I was talking about. I agree. The difference between a lineman being able to handle man blocking schemes versus zone blocking schemes is important and can affect an offense significantly. Your assertion to the contrary was incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I agree. The difference between a lineman being able to handle man blocking schemes versus zone blocking schemes is important and can affect an offense significantly. Your assertion to the contrary was incorrect.Ok smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Watching Warford. MAYBE the best Mauler in the draft? Slow and Clumsy, don`t think he is at all athletic enough to be good trying to pull, and in supporting the screen game. Don`t want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I agree. The difference between a lineman being able to handle man blocking schemes versus zone blocking schemes is important and can affect an offense significantly. Your assertion to the contrary was incorrect. I agree with this and is why it won't surprise me that Grigson won't even consider Levitre. Can he handle an every down man blocking scheme? Who knows? Grigson better know if he paid Levitre the kind of money he'll get because he won't bring in a high priced player just hoping he can handle a man scheme. In a perfect world O-lineman would be able to play in both schemes but this is not Fantasyland where everything is rainbows and gum drops. Smaller athletic lineman are typically not good man blockers and big heavy lineman are typically not good zone blockers. Thats why there are 2 different schemes to begin with. If every lineman could excel in either scheme, then there would be no reason to have 2 different scheme's to begin with. I personally don't want Levitre because I do not think he would be nearly as effective in man blocking as he is zone. He is the perfect zone lineman, but lacks the strength to play a man scheme IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreColt1973 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I would love it if we got him. Guard is our weakest spot on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreColt1973 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I would love it if we got him. Guard is our weakest spot on the line.along with tackle and center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I agree with this and is why it won't surprise me that Grigson won't even consider Levitre. Can he handle an every down man blocking scheme? Who knows? Grigson better know if he paid Levitre the kind of money he'll get because he won't bring in a high priced player just hoping he can handle a man scheme.In a perfect world O-lineman would be able to play in both schemes but this is not Fantasyland where everything is rainbows and gum drops. Smaller athletic lineman are typically not good man blockers and big heavy lineman are typically not good zone blockers. Thats why there are 2 different schemes to begin with.If every lineman could excel in either scheme, then there would be no reason to have 2 different scheme's to begin with. I personally don't want Levitre because I do not think he would be nearly as effective in man blocking as he is zone. He is the perfect zone lineman, but lacks the strength to play a man scheme IMO.He played the man blocking scheme well at Oregon State. Mike Cavanaugh as OL coach ran a variety of blocking schemes at Oregon State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/504719 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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