Colts offseason discussion / Ballard Grievances (merge)

[GoColts8818]

4 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Right. Sam got thrown out there (by Irsay?) vs NE. the team was a mess. then Saturday came in and went back to Ryan.

Steichen come over and the new staff and Ballard wasn't confident enough in Sam to give him the job. So they paid Minshew, and again Sam never got a chance. Now Flacco is here and it's another repeat. Sam will be out of Indy, maybe this year?

I just would have liked to see him get a chance, with a good team, and all the starters playing. I'm not saying I'm convinced he would be good? But I also not convinced, he would'nt be

So?  There are thousands of players with stories similar to Sam.  Fair or not Sam got his chance vs the Commanders, Pats, and Texans and it wasn’t enough to make the Colts think he could be a number two.  Like they say when you get a chance in the NFL you have to take advantage of it because you might not get another.  Sam didn’t.  Maybe that’s unfair but that’s the NFL.  

[1959Colts]

Just now, MikeCurtis said:

I understand what you are saying but the coaches see Sam in preseason and can make better judgements on him than the fans

 

 

 

 

Yeah. I get what you are saying... But really the only way to see if a guy can play, is to let him play.

It's all just judgement. Even the Colts staff and FO don't really know, outside of practice, since he hasn't played in a meaningful game, excluding preseason (where he usually excels) and when he was thrown out there with a terrible line.

Oh well, it is what it is, Have to hope AR can stay healthy (and not suck) or if he does... Hope Flacco can come in and look like he did in those few Browns games at the end of last season.

[RollerColt]

11 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Right. Sam got thrown out there (by Irsay?) vs NE. the team was a mess. then Saturday came in and went back to Ryan.

Steichen come over and the new staff and Ballard wasn't confident enough in Sam enough to give him the job. So they paid Minshew, and again Sam never got a chance. Now Flacco is here and it's another repeat. Sam will be out of Indy, maybe this year?

I just would have liked to see him get a chance, with a good team, and all the starters playing. I'm not saying I'm convinced he would be good? But I also not convinced, he would'nt be

I think he’s always going to be a PJ Walker type of guy for us until some other team takes a chance with him. 

[1959Colts]

5 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

So?  There are thousands of players with stories similar to Sam.  Fair or not Sam got his chance vs the Commanders, Pats, and Texans and it wasn’t enough to make the Colts think he could be a number two.  Like they say when you get a chance in the NFL you have to take advantage of it because you might not get another.  Sam didn’t.  Maybe that’s unfair but that’s the NFL.  

I would think he will eventually get another chance. Probably not with Indy, but with another team. He will be older and have more experience. May turn out to be a fine QB perhaps? He seems to have the character and moxxy? Lacking some in the physical areas

1 minute ago, RollerColt said:

I think he’s always going to be a PJ Walker type of guy for us until some other team takes a chance with him. 

Right. I just made a similar comment above

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, 1959Colts said:

I would think he will eventually get another chance. Probably not with Indy, but with another team. He will be older and have more experience. May turn out to be a fine QB perhaps? He seems to have the character and moxxy? Lacking some in the physical areas

Maybe he will.  I have nothing against Sam.  If it works out for him good for him.  I just don’t think Sam not getting a chance to be the true number two is that big of a deal.  

[1959Colts]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Maybe he will.  I have nothing against Sam.  If it works out for him good for him.  I just don’t think Sam not getting a chance to be the true number two is the end of the world.  

Certainly not the end of the world. But I really shouldn't be getting crucified for simply not being wild about the Flacco signing?

[GoColts8818]

Just now, 1959Colts said:

Certainly not the end of the world. But I really shouldn't be getting crucified for simply not being wild about the Flacco signing?

I object less to you not being excited about the signing, you are entitled to like or not like any signing you want.  It was more you thinking signing Flacco to mentor Richardson  was such a radical unprecedented idea even though it happens to just about every rookie QB in the NFL.

[1959Colts]

9 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I object less to you not being excited about the signing, you are entitled to like or not like any signing you want.  It was more you thinking signing Flacco to mentor Richardson  was such a radical unprecedented idea even though it happens to just about every rookie QB in the NFL.

Not at all. But my position is just that we really don't know that was the driving force behind the signing. I am not sold (that the mentor aspect) was the case. All players are different. Perhaps Minshew is a better mentor than Flacco? We really dont know their personalities? Or teaching skills? I only know what I see them do on the field. I think Ballard's signing of Flacco had more to do with what Joe did in the final 4 games in Cleveland, than any tutoring (of Richardson) he may bring to the table. Perhaps you are right? Perhaps I am? or maybe a little of both?

[ArmchairQB]

56 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Would you have paid Minshew $25 million over two years to back up Richardson because that’s what it would have cost?  That’s also if you can get past the Raiders can offer him a chance to compete to start and the Colts can’t.

I’m only considering the football aspect of it.  I don’t know what was offered or if anything was offered at all.  Obviously he isn’t worth what LV is paying him to be our back up. 

[w87r]

@Restinpeacesweetchloe

 

Where you at?

 

 

We need some new news, so we can stop talking about Flacco over here.

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

@Restinpeacesweetchloe

 

Where you at?

 

 

We need some new news, so we can stop talking about Flacco over here.

Resting for tomorrow.  She’s gotta have the energy to be the forum’s insider lol.

[1959Colts]

Just now, w87r said:

@Restinpeacesweetchloe

 

Where you at?

 

 

We need some new news, so we can stop talking about Flacco over here.

I'm done with Flacco posts. I said that ten times, but keep getting replies, and can't resist answering. goodnight.

 

[chad72]

 

...is that the Indianapolis Colts are the team to beat here.

 

IF, that is a big IF, we land Sneed, Jaylon Jones could be moved to big nickel / safety, I think he will do well there. His draft projection also said he could:

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylon-jones/32004a4f-4e44-9507-e0b9-cde8b102313d

 

Key lines:

 

He might lack the long speed for foot races in press-man work so Cover 2 and Cover 3 could be his coverage destination thanks to his size and potential physicality, but a move to safety should not be out of the question.

 

 

 

 

[w87r]

Just now, 1959Colts said:

I'm done with Flacco posts. I said that ten times, but keep getting replies, and can't resist answering. goodnight.

 

Nothing wrong with them. Just ready to see something else.

[Goatface Killah]

2 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Not at all. But my position is just that we really don't know that was the driving force behind the signing. I am not sold that that is the case. All players are different. Perhaps Minshew is a better mentor than Flacco? We really dont know their personalities? Or teaching skills? I only know what I see them do on the field. I think Ballard's signing of Flacco had more to do with what Joe did in the final 4 games in Cleveland, than any tutoring (of Richardson) he may bring to the table. Perhaps you are right? Perhaps I am? or maybe a little of both?

I think its the fact that backup QBs in the NFL dont get practice reps during the season. So some teams prefer a guy like Flacco who doesnt really need reps and can still step in and perform. Beyond that, he can be a help to AR in games with coverages and whatnot.

 

I am with you honestly, this signing is a bit puzzling to me. He just doesnt seem like he fits the offense that well. But obviously the coaching staff thinks differently. He certainly can push the ball downfield. I dont hate it, but its just not what I was expecting.

[CardiacColts]

34 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Well. I was just saying, I would have liked for Sam to have gotten a chance. And if he stunk, then go with the rookie QB, or vice versa. The Flacco signing is the same thing again. Like Minshew was.

Kind sir, I am a loooooooonnngggg time lurker, rare poster. The “always here, but nobody knows it” type. 
 

Reading your posts, I ran through a range of thoughts on how to proceed. To be clear, this entire post is genuine and not sarcastic. 
 

I am electing not to engage with the specific content of your posts, as we have diverse view points that I don’t anticipate finding a ton of middle ground on. Initially, I had some strongly opinionated responses. I ran through scenarios of how I thought they would be received by you and the forum in my head. Then I had an epiphany. I sat back and thought to myself, “Golly, this is a very passionate Colts fan! He maintains the energy to post very consistently to advocate for his view point. I can’t even muster the energy for that myself most of the time.” And for that I salute you. I respect your passion tremendously.
 

Without risking a debate, I just want to acknowledge that many here do not believe Sam Ehlinger to be an NFL caliber QB. I’m asking you to just consider something. We all love the guy. He’s a nice guy with a good story out of Texas. Perhaps every GM in the NFL knows that he’s not an NFL quarterback. But he’s a good camp body who brings consistency with the playbook and familiarity with the system. I sort of think of him like I do Scott Tolzien, who I actually had a safety on in HS when he played for Fremd. I rooted for him when he played for the Colts, and I supported him when he played for other teams as a back up, but everybody knew he wasn’t an NFL quarterback… He didn’t need more playtime to confirm what most already knew. Sam Ehlinger is of the same ilk. 
 

To present a counterpoint, Sam has been afforded a generous luxury of being on an NFL roster for more time than he probably should have. For context, he will make $1,055,000 in 2024 to go through the motions. He has severe limitations in his chosen profession, but his hard work and grit will earn him a salary that exceeds what 99.99% of us on this forum will make this year. Congrats to Sam. That is his superbowl, and he won! 
 

But with all due respect, can we move past arguing over backup/ third string QB’s and moves that are already done, and start to enjoy the excitement of this actually being a year that our FO seems to be embracing as a contender season? This free agency period is starting to build some excitement for the first time in a little while! Can we create some type of vibe on the forum this off season that allows us all to enjoy ourselves for once? We deserve it lol. 
 

I am stoked for what is to come. Regardless of how this season plays out, I am freaking excited to have the opportunity to be excited for the Colts in mid March for the first time in a long time! And I LOVE having the opportunity to look forward to a season again! 
 

Go ‘Shoe! 

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, CardiacColts said:

Kind sir, I am a loooooooonnngggg time lurker, rare poster. The “always here, but nobody knows it” type. 
 

Reading your posts, I ran through a range of thoughts on how to proceed. To be clear, this entire post is genuine and not sarcastic. 
 

I am electing not to engage with the specific content of your posts, as we have diverse view points that I don’t anticipate finding a ton of middle ground on. Initially, I had some strongly opinionated responses. I ran through scenarios of how I thought they would be received by you and the forum in my head. Then I had an epiphany. I sat back and thought to myself, “Golly, this is a very passionate Colts fan! He maintains the energy to post very consistently to advocate for his view point. I can’t even muster the energy for that myself most of the time.” And for that I salute you. I respect your passion tremendously.
 

Without risking a debate, I just want to acknowledge that many here do not believe Sam Ehlinger to be an NFL caliber QB. I’m asking you to just consider something. We all love the guy. He’s a nice guy with a good story out of Texas. Perhaps every GM in the NFL knows that he’s not an NFL quarterback. But he’s a good camp body who brings consistency with the playbook and familiarity with the system. I sort of think of him like I do Scott Tolzien, who I actually had a safety on in HS when he played for Fremd. I rooted for him when he played for the Colts, and I supported him when he played for other teams as a back up, but everybody knew he wasn’t an NFL quarterback… He didn’t need more playtime to confirm what most already knew. Sam Ehlinger is of the same ilk. 
 

To present a counterpoint, Sam has been afforded a generous luxury of being on an NFL roster for more time than he probably should have. For context, he will make $1,055,000 in 2024 to go through the motions. He has severe limitations in his chosen profession, but his hard work and grit will earn him a salary that exceeds what 99.99% of us on this forum will make this year. Congrats to Sam. That is his superbowl, and he won! 
 

But with all due respect, can we move past arguing over backup/ third string QB’s and moves that are already done, and start to enjoy the excitement of this actually being a year that our FO seems to be embracing as a contender season? This free agency period is starting to build some excitement for the first time in a little while! Can we create some type of vibe on the forum this off season that allows us all to enjoy ourselves for once? We deserve it lol. 
 

I am stoked for what is to come. Regardless of how this season plays out, I am freaking excited to have the opportunity to be excited for the Colts in mid March for the first time in a long time! And I LOVE having the opportunity to look forward to a season again! 
 

Go ‘Shoe! 

I think I speak for everyone here when I say rather we agree or not post more!

[ColtStrong2013]

5 minutes ago, CardiacColts said:

Kind sir, I am a loooooooonnngggg time lurker, rare poster. The “always here, but nobody knows it” type. 

You should change your name to this. 
 

Long time lurker, rare poster

He’s always watching- ready to strike when least expected. 
 

You are giving me great inspiration for my next novel, “The cardiac forum killer.” 

[Superman]

11 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I think I speak for everyone here when I say rather we agree or not post more!

 

It takes a lot of effort and focus to be that eloquent. I don't blame him for reserving his energy.

[CardiacColts]

6 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I think I speak for everyone here when I say rather we agree or not post more!

I try, I really do. In fairness, I’m running around all day with a very irregular sales schedule. So I have the chance to catch up on threads for minutes at a glance throughout the day. 
 

By the time I get home from an appointment, I usually just try to catch up on all the threads. That isn’t a short task on here   When I’m all caught up, I’m usually just too exhausted to actually say anything. Besides, there are some very intelligent and experienced minds on this forum. Oftentimes, I find that any contribution I would have made was already said by someone else.
 

So naturally, I fulfill my civic forum duty, and I react to the post. Plus, I’m adhd and forget lol. 

[GoColts8818]

Just now, CardiacColts said:

I try, I really do. In fairness, I’m running around all day with a very irregular sales schedule. So I have the chance to catch up on threads for minutes at a glance throughout the day. 
 

By the time I get home from an appointment, I usually just try to catch up on all the threads. That isn’t a short task on here   When I’m all caught up, I’m usually just too exhausted to actually say anything. Besides, there are some very intelligent and experienced minds on this forum. Oftentimes, I find that any contribution I would have made was already said by someone else.
 

So naturally, I fulfill my civic forum duty, and I react to the post. Plus, I’m adhd and forget lol. 

Understandable.  Just know your voice is always welcomed.

[Superman]

19 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

...is that the Indianapolis Colts are the team to beat here.

 

IF, that is a big IF, we land Sneed, Jaylon Jones could be moved to big nickel / safety, I think he will do well there. His draft projection also said he could:

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylon-jones/32004a4f-4e44-9507-e0b9-cde8b102313d

 

Key lines:

 

He might lack the long speed for foot races in press-man work so Cover 2 and Cover 3 could be his coverage destination thanks to his size and potential physicality, but a move to safety should not be out of the question.

 

 

I don't think this is going to happen. I think it's all smoke and mirrors, somebody trying to drive up the Chiefs price, and maybe Sneed's price as well, by using the Colts as the team waiting in the wings to swoop in and make the the deal happen. That's not like Ballard, or the Colts. They move in silence, and stuff like this usually doesn't come out until it's crossing the finish line. It's also not like Ballard to spend big money on a corner, particularly with Gus Bradley running the defense.

 

But if -- IF -- Ballard pulls this off, or something similar, I'll soften some of my criticism from the last couple days. I will still question the decision to spend money on run stoppers in the defensive front, and I think it's hard to cover the middle of the field with Franklin playing 1,000 snaps, but I will appreciate the decision to attack the secondary aggressively. If they also come away with an upgrade at safety, I'll be even more appreciative.

[CardiacColts]

8 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

It takes a lot of effort and focus to be that eloquent. I don't blame him for reserving his energy.

You are even more astute than I realized. Life is all about energy transfer. We ride the highs as long as we can, and we weather the lows until we rip the next wave! Energy is our most overlooked commodity. I have to reserve a lot of it on the forum because I use it all up on game day lol. 

[CardiacColts]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I don't think this is going to happen. I think it's all smoke and mirrors, somebody trying to drive up the Chiefs price, and maybe Sneed's price as well, by using the Colts as the team waiting in the wings to swoop in and make the the deal happen. That's not like Ballard, or the Colts. They move in silence, and stuff like this usually doesn't come out until it's crossing the finish line. It's also not like Ballard to spend big money on a corner, particularly with Gus Bradley running the defense.

 

But if -- IF -- Ballard pulls this off, or something similar, I'll soften some of my criticism from the last couple days. I will still question the decision to spend money on run stoppers in the defensive front, and I think it's hard to cover the middle of the field with Franklin playing 1,000 snaps, but I will appreciate the decision to attack the secondary aggressively. If they also come away with an upgrade at safety, I'll be even more appreciative.

This is the most logical take. If we were really in the final stages of negotiations with either of the free agents, I can’t imagine our players would interfere with that on social media for the sake of both parties. To me, it means 1 of 2 things. Either a deal is already done, or it ain’t getting done…

[RollerColt]

Just now, CardiacColts said:

This is the most logical take. If we were really in the final stages of negotiations with either of the free agents, I can’t imagine our players would interfere with that on social media for the sake of both parties. To me, it means 1 of 2 things. Either a deal is already done, or it ain’t getting done…

Good to see (read) your posts again. I feel the same way with the Snead situation. We’ll see what tomorrow brings. 

[1959Colts]

9 minutes ago, CardiacColts said:

Kind sir, I am a loooooooonnngggg time lurker, rare poster. The “always here, but nobody knows it” type. 
 

Reading your posts, I ran through a range of thoughts on how to proceed. To be clear, this entire post is genuine and not sarcastic. 
 

I am electing not to engage with the specific content of your posts, as we have diverse view points that I don’t anticipate finding a ton of middle ground on. Initially, I had some strongly opinionated responses. I ran through scenarios of how I thought they would be received by you and the forum in my head. Then I had an epiphany. I sat back and thought to myself, “Golly, this is a very passionate Colts fan! He maintains the energy to post very consistently to advocate for his view point. I can’t even muster the energy for that myself most of the time.” And for that I salute you. I respect your passion tremendously.
 

Without risking a debate, I just want to acknowledge that many here do not believe Sam Ehlinger to be an NFL caliber QB. I’m asking you to just consider something. We all love the guy. He’s a nice guy with a good story out of Texas. Perhaps every GM in the NFL knows that he’s not an NFL quarterback. But he’s a good camp body who brings consistency with the playbook and familiarity with the system. I sort of think of him like I do Scott Tolzien, who I actually had a safety on in HS when he played for Fremd. I rooted for him when he played for the Colts, and I supported him when he played for other teams as a back up, but everybody knew he wasn’t an NFL quarterback… He didn’t need more playtime to confirm what most already knew. Sam Ehlinger is of the same ilk. 
 

To present a counterpoint, Sam has been afforded a generous luxury of being on an NFL roster for more time than he probably should have. For context, he will make $1,055,000 in 2024 to go through the motions. He has severe limitations in his chosen profession, but his hard work and grit will earn him a salary that exceeds what 99.99% of us on this forum will make this year. Congrats to Sam. That is his superbowl, and he won! 
 

But with all due respect, can we move past arguing over backup/ third string QB’s and moves that are already done, and start to enjoy the excitement of this actually being a year that our FO seems to be embracing as a contender season? This free agency period is starting to build some excitement for the first time in a little while! Can we create some type of vibe on the forum this off season that allows us all to enjoy ourselves for once? We deserve it lol. 
 

I am stoked for what is to come. Regardless of how this season plays out, I am freaking excited to have the opportunity to be excited for the Colts in mid March for the first time in a long time! And I LOVE having the opportunity to look forward to a season again! 
 

Go ‘Shoe! 

 

Thanks. Just to follow up on your post,..

I disagree with your forgone conclusion that everyone knows Sam not an NLF QB.

As a matter of fact, Sam is indeed an NFL QB. And probably will be for some time forward.

 

I would like to be stoked too. But am having a bit of trouble with that, seeing as our FO is once again re-signing all the same players we've had for the past few years, and It's hard for me to see us improving, without making any changes to fill the holes.

I know it is still early, but up to this point, it's looking like another repeat of 2023... (or maybe worse?) While watching all three of our division rivals improve their rosters significantly.

 

However, I do believe we still have a bit of cap space? and perhaps another signing or two should be coming down the pike?

And of course the draft is super important for this teams success in 2024. Just hoping the FO can make the most of these opportunities. 

 

What I like about this forum is the freedom to talk, whether positive or negative, about all aspects of the Colts franchise. 

But as for the joyful vibe... My vibe is always dictated by the teams performance, and the FO making the right moves and decisions.

And you are right... We do deserve it.,

[CardiacColts]

26 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

 

Thanks. Just to follow up on your post,..

I disagree with your forgone conclusion that everyone knows Sam not an NLF QB.

As a matter of fact, Sam is indeed an NFL QB. And probably will be for some time forward.

 

I would like to be stoked too. But am having a bit of trouble with that, seeing as our FO is once again re-signing all the same players we've had for the past few years, and It's hard for me to see us improving, without making any changes to fill the holes.

I know it is still early, but up to this point, it's looking like another repeat of 2023... (or maybe worse?) While watching all three of our division rivals improve their rosters significantly.

 

However, I do believe we still have a bit of cap space? and perhaps another signing or two should be coming down the pike?

And of course the draft is super important for this teams success in 2024. Just hoping the FO can make the most of these opportunities. 

 

What I like about this forum is the freedom to talk, whether positive or negative, about all aspects of the Colts franchise. 

But as for the joyful vibe... My vibe is always dictated by the teams performance, and the FO making the right moves and decisions.

And you are right... We do deserve it.,

Your passion is infectious in the best kind of way! I love seeing spirited debate on this forum. 
 

That said, I simply can’t engage with a substantial portion of your response. I respect your opinion, and you absolutely have a right to it! I just don’t share it. Cheers to the draft though. I absolutely agree this will be a great opportunity to see how this team takes shape. 
 

I actually like the direction we are starting to head. Call me a homer, but I’m actually pretty optimistic. Of course, I could be wrong. But I am just enjoying feeling pretty good about our team. I would love to share a little bit of this feeling with you, bro. Maybe I’m just naïve, but I enjoy feeling this way about the upcoming season. Even if they let me down next year, I appreciate feeling pretty good about the team AND the depth at the moment. 
 

We have plenty of needs that need to be addressed. So does every other team… To me, personally, this is what makes the NFL so fun. The salary cap ensures parity to a certain extent. Roster size plays a role. You can’t be successful allocating 90% of an annual budget to 3 players like the NBA. Sometimes the depth contracts get signed first (not sexy contracts, I agree), and then the impact players sign later (much more exciting, I agree). Other seasons, the inverse is true. 
 

I suppose my biggest ask of you, just for posterity and culture on the forum purposes, is can we not treat every new media bit as a reason to cause division? Most of us just want to hear other people’s thoughts on the latest signings or losses, but without someone needing to win. We just want to talk. We are all passionate, we all have different emotions linked to our varying levels of Colt’s fandom. I’m just asking that we wait for the season to start to make it a debate instead of a conversation. 
 

My final statement is that I hear you. I believe many of us here, hear you. Your thoughts and feelings are 100% valid. None of us have a crystal ball, none of us know if AR will eclipse Mahomes or never finish a season. That’s why it’s a forum. It’s all speculation. None of us are omniscient… But please, let this be a place of fun, recreation, decompression, and conversation. Let’s just talk. I promise I’m here to listen. 
 

We can all slide over a seat and get on the same side of the table. We are all in this together, regardless of our opinions. Much love and respect…

[Colts1324]

Kamren Curl, Blackmon, or Simmons need to be signed. I just don’t see how one is not. It’s a clear necessity for our team. 
 

 

[ShuteAt168]

We’ve had seven years of watching Ballard do his thing. I admire you guys who still have optimism that he will pay up for Simmons or trade for Sneed. Can’t wait to see how the marketing department works with a theme of “We again didn’t make the playoffs so we’re running it back! Get your season tickets today!” 

[AKB]

3 minutes ago, ShuteAt168 said:

We’ve had seven years of watching Ballard do his thing. I admire you guys who still have optimism that he will pay up for Simmons or trade for Sneed. Can’t wait to see how the marketing department works with a theme of “We again didn’t make the playoffs so we’re running it back! Get your season tickets today!” 

maybe in year 10 we get a super bowl. like Harbaugh in michigan

[stitches]

8 hours ago, Superman said:

 

You mean to tell me you don't trust ... "the feeling" Cam Marino has had? 

[stitches]

7 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

Flacco also throws the ball quickly. He’ll be fine. Stop being negative. 

Flacco is known for having horrible internal clock. He was 40th of 46 QBs last year in time to throw at 3.01 seconds. 

 

With that said, he's still one of the better backups we could have gotten. As long as he's OK mentoring and helping AR, I'm good with that signing. 

[stitches]

7 hours ago, Superman said:

I wasn't expecting Flacco. He's one of the best backups in the NFL though. I wonder what the incentives are...

 

It's probably based on games played, kind of like Minshew's incentives last year. 

[dw49]

Just now, stitches said:

Flacco is known for having horrible internal clock. He was 40th of 46 QBs last year in time to throw at 3.01 seconds. 

 

He's certainly not perfect. That's why he's a back up that's scheduled to make 4.7 mill. Not a lot considering Minshew is 2 years at 24 mill and Darnold signed 1 year for a legit 10 mill. 

[stitches]

1 minute ago, dw49 said:

 

He's certainly not perfect. That's why he's a back up that's scheduled to make 4.7 mill. Not a lot considering Minshew is 2 years at 24 mill and Darnold signed 1 year for a legit 10 mill. 

Yeah, I don't mind it. He's a solid backup at this stage of his career and he has had a very good career in the league. I hope he's open to mentoring and helping AR in his growth and not just here for the check... 

[stitches]

6 hours ago, Zoltan said:

So Bowers doesn’t work out at the combine for personal reasons and now he won’t workout at his pro day for a hamstring injury.

 

is it just me or does this seem like a huge red flag

I don't think it's a huge red flag but definitely eyebrow raising... There is still time before the draft and he can reschedule the workout if he needs to/wants to...  

[dw49]

17 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yeah, I don't mind it. He's a solid backup at this stage of his career and he has had a very good career in the league. I hope he's open to mentoring and helping AR in his growth and not just here for the check... 

 

Agree 

[Scott Pennock]

8 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

Which was a terrible mistake in itself

Unless you can go back and provide a snapshot of you saying that when Matt Ryan was signed then you can't use hindsight as a crutch..........seriously, how miserable are you in life to poo poo on EVERY SINGLE MOVE this front office makes?

[Indyfan4life]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

Flacco is known for having horrible internal clock. He was 40th of 46 QBs last year in time to throw at 3.01 seconds. 

 

With that said, he's still one of the better backups we could have gotten. As long as he's OK mentoring and helping AR, I'm good with that signing. 

Yeah I should have worded it a bit different. I meant he’s got a quick release in situations where it counts. Not instantly panicking (Minshew) and making bad throws or moving out of the pocket. 
 

IF Flacco ever had to step in, I think he would be fine. Not saying for the entire season, but a few games like Cleveland or even just a few plays. Hopefully AR doesn’t miss a snap this year. 

[DoubleE Colt]

So...........have we improved for the 40 mill or so spent then?