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I feel the same way.  Hoping we can get a big play wr.  Of course I could see Ballard trading down into the 20s to get more picks.  

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This is much better the 20’s and they probably were not winning a wildcard game anyway.

 

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13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This is much better the 20’s and they probably were not winning a wildcard game anyway.

We would have beat the browns. Don’t care how well they are playing. We would have played that game harder then Andy game we played this year with how our last game ended.

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3 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

I'll say someone like Kool Aid McKinistry right now. Not sure yet if Ballard will select a WR in the 1st round. If Pittman doesn't re-sign, I will change my guess to a WR like Keon Coleman.

If you look at the draft from last April the mid round WR are having just as good of seasons as the first round picks. You can get one in the 2nd or 3rd or free agency/ I don’t think it is a necessity.

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2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If you look at the draft from last April the mid round WR are having just as good of seasons as the first round picks. You can get one in the 2nd or 3rd or free agency/ I don’t think it is a necessity.

I agree with this. I don't even think Marvin Harrison Jr is the best WR in this class tbh. There could be 3 or 4 better than him.

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2 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

I agree with this. I don't even think Marvin Harrison Jr is the best WR in this class tbh. There could be 3 or 4 better than him.

I think our pass catchers will be a ton better with Richardson. Take Nico Collin’s as an example. He had under 500 yards two years before stroud got there. Now he is their best WR with well over 1k. I truly feel first two picks need to be defen if there  is someone worthy of the pick.

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6 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

I agree with this. I don't even think Marvin Harrison Jr is the best WR in this class tbh. There could be 3 or 4 better than him.

 

It boils down to who is pulling the trigger. If it is Justin Fields, probably not going to hit his ceiling. If it is Kyler Murray, he would have a better shot, IMO.

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Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I think our pass catchers will be a ton better with Richardson. Take Nico Collin’s as an example. He had under 500 yards two years before stroud got there. Now he is their best WR with well over 1k. I truly feel first two picks need to be defen if there  is someone worthy of the pick.

I think we'll definitely prefer secondary. We'll probably go BPA at position of need though as that is what Ballard generally does. WR, CB, S, EDGE, O-Line probably all in play early. I would say if Brock Bowers falls to 15. We may take him as well just to get that elite TE.

Just now, chad72 said:

 

It boils down to who is pulling the trigger. If it is Justin Fields, probably not going to hit his ceiling. If it is Kyler Murray, he would have a better shot, IMO.

There's a very good chance that Arizona takes Harrison IMO. I think they will take the first non QB off the board at 4.

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Penix Jr.  Double down on the single most important position in the NFL.

 

Richardson left more games injured than he finished.  Use him like Tysom Hill.

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56 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If you look at the draft from last April the mid round WR are having just as good of seasons as the first round picks. You can get one in the 2nd or 3rd or free agency/ I don’t think it is a necessity.


I don’t know.  This thinking is how you end up with players you have and looking at players you wish you could’ve gotten.  If Odunze, Franklin, MHJ, Thomas, or Nabers is available at 15 and we choose to trade down because we think we can get someone in the 2nd, I’m going to be *.  
 

We need to go get talent in the draft that has proven to be good.  In the early rounds, that’s where you go to get that talent.  Waiting to get it is going to allow others to.

 

Depending on how this draft go, I’m predicting a run on WRs early because it’s a premium position and the draft is deep with them.  I don’t want us to miss out.  

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38 minutes ago, Bum said:

Penix Jr.  Double down on the single most important position in the NFL.

 

Richardson left more games injured than he finished.  Use him like Tysom Hill.


Penix isn’t making it out of the top 10.  There are about 5 teams ahead of us who are going to go QB.

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3 minutes ago, smittywerb said:


I don’t know.  This thinking is how you end up with players you have and looking at players you wish you could’ve gotten.  If Odunze, Franklin, MHJ, Thomas, or Nabers is available at 15 and we choose to trade down because we think we can get someone in the 2nd, I’m going to be *.  
 

We need to go get talent in the draft that has proven to be good.  In the early rounds, that’s where you go to get that talent.  Waiting to get it is going to allow others to.

 

Depending on how this draft go, I’m predicting a run on WRs early because it’s a premium position and the draft is deep with them.  I don’t want us to miss out.  

Harrison won’t be there. We will see about the others. Harrison will probably be a cardinal.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, smittywerb said:


Penix isn’t making it out of the top 10.  There are about 5 teams ahead of us who are going to go QB.

You are most likely correct.  Most draft "experts" don't think that highly of him right now, but I see him rising fast on the boards. 

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4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Harrison won’t be there. We will see about the others. Harrison will probably be a cardinal.

 

 


 

1 Chicago 

2 Washington

3 New England

4 Arizona

5 LA Chargers

6 NY Giants

7 Tennessee

8 Atlanta

9 Chicago

10 NY Jets

11 Minnesota

12 Denver

13 Las Vegas

14 New Orleans

 

I see Arizona (maybe), Tennesee, Atlanta going WR.  The others are going QB or OL.

 

Thats why I think we have to go WR.  I think there are 5-7 WR1s and we have the ability to get one of them.  If we trade back we’re not getting one of them.  Those WR1s will be gone and we’ll be looking at receivers with Alec Pierce talent level…again. 
 

MHJ, Nabers, Thomas, Odunze, Coleman, Egbuka, Adonai (even though he doesn’t fit ballards type)

 

MHJ, Nabers, and Odunze are gone before us most likely.  I would love to grab Coleman at 15.  And if Arizona doesn’t go WR, then that means one of the top 3 falls to us.  No reason for us to trade back.

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37 minutes ago, smittywerb said:


 

1 Chicago 

2 Washington

3 New England

4 Arizona

5 LA Chargers

6 NY Giants

7 Tennessee

8 Atlanta

9 Chicago

10 NY Jets

11 Minnesota

12 Denver

13 Las Vegas

14 New Orleans

 

I see Arizona (maybe), Tennesee, Atlanta going WR.  The others are going QB or OL.

 

Thats why I think we have to go WR.  I think there are 5-7 WR1s and we have the ability to get one of them.  If we trade back we’re not getting one of them.  Those WR1s will be gone and we’ll be looking at receivers with Alec Pierce talent level…again. 
 

MHJ, Nabers, Thomas, Odunze, Coleman, Egbuka, Adonai (even though he doesn’t fit ballards type)

 

MHJ, Nabers, and Odunze are gone before us most likely.  I would love to grab Coleman at 15.  And if Arizona doesn’t go WR, then that means one of the top 3 falls to us.  No reason for us to trade back.

Titans need a left tackle. That’s almost a given. 

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7 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Titans need a left tackle. That’s almost a given. 


More reason why I don’t think we should trade back or go with a different position.  In the second, I’m down to do so.  But with the 15th pick, we need to get OUR guy.  Unless we’re moving back a couple of spots to where we can still grab a WR1, I say we stay put and get someone to start opposite of Pittman.  
 

I think people have grown attached to Pierce and wondering what he could be with AR.  That is dangerous.  Because if we miss out on a bonafide WR and Pierce falls flat, then we missed our chance to get a WR1 on the cheap.  At this point, we need to go with known talent, not ifs.

 

i understand the want to get a CB, but do we NEED a CB?  Brents, Jones, Flowers, and Moore is a formidable CB room.  Brents and Jones have a year of experience and should be better in their second years. I personally think FS is a bigger need than CB.  Those 2 passing TDs wasn’t because of bad CB play, it was because the FS whiffed twice on assignments.  The first one he got caught looking into the backfield and allowed collins to get behind him.  The second, he left his assigned guy and followed someone who was already being followed.

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If Nabers or Odunze fall I think they are the top choices.

 

Other than that I like Laiatu Latu DE, UCLA at 15. I'm not high on drafting a CB in the first. I'd rather we give our young guys the chance and bring in some veteran talent for competition.

 

We could trade back a bit and still get Troy Franklin or Brian Thomas in the first as well.

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11 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I think our pass catchers will be a ton better with Richardson. Take Nico Collin’s as an example. He had under 500 yards two years before stroud got there. Now he is their best WR with well over 1k. I truly feel first two picks need to be defen if there  is someone worthy of the pick.

Yeah, but Stroud is deadly accurate. We're HOPING AR can get to a good accuracy level...

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10 hours ago, smittywerb said:

MHJ, Nabers, and Odunze are gone before us most likely.  I would love to grab Coleman at 15.  And if Arizona doesn’t go WR, then that means one of the top 3 falls to us.  No reason for us to trade back.

Coleman is an X like Pittman. Unless we let Pittman walk drafting Coleman seems like a bad idea.

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1 hour ago, Solid84 said:

If Nabers or Odunze fall I think they are the top choices.

 

Other than that I like Laiatu Latu DE, UCLA at 15. I'm not high on drafting a CB in the first. I'd rather we give our young guys the chance and bring in some veteran talent for competition.

 

We could trade back a bit and still get Troy Franklin or Brian Thomas in the first as well.


If receiver is what they deem they need, and one of those guys are who they want, why wouldn’t we move up to get one? And what is the line on moving up? 
 

I obviously think it’s highly unlikely we attempt to move up as far as it will take to get Harrison. The only sliver of hope there is that Irsay pushes that. But what is reasonable to move up for the 2nd or 3rd best receiver? Is sitting at 15 and missing out because we hung onto pick or two worth it? 

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1 hour ago, ColtStrong2013 said:


If receiver is what they deem they need, and one of those guys are who they want, why wouldn’t we move up to get one? And what is the line on moving up? 
 

I obviously think it’s highly unlikely we attempt to move up as far as it will take to get Harrison. The only sliver of hope there is that Irsay pushes that. But what is reasonable to move up for the 2nd or 3rd best receiver? Is sitting at 15 and missing out because we hung onto pick or two worth it? 

I’m not sure we won’t move up THIS year, but Ballard has never moved up in the first - I think he likes his draft picks too much. I do think the pressure is on to build a roster around AR now and that may force his hand. 
 

The best chance to get one of the top WRs is if Odunze (or Nabers) falls to the 10-14 range. 
 

There are some draft points charts floating around and I think they are fairly reliable - outside the first round. Moving up in the first is hella expensive and there’s generally an extra added price there. I don’t think we’ll move from 15 to 10 by just giving up an extra 2nd rounder for example. 

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6 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

I’m not sure we won’t move up THIS year, but Ballard has never moved up in the first - I think he likes his draft picks too much. I do think the pressure is on to build a roster around AR now and that may force his hand. 
 

The best chance to get one of the top WRs is if Odunze (or Nabers) falls to the 10-14 range. 
 

There are some draft points charts floating around and I think they are fairly reliable - outside the first round. Moving up in the first is hella expensive and there’s generally and extra added price there. I don’t think we’ll move from 15 to 10 by just giving up an extra 2nd rounder for example. 

 

My argument for breaking precedent is that this is the first offseason that the qb position is set before it begins. Since 2019 (and it ended up not being set). He's got his qb. He was a few plays away from a division title. If he isn't aggressive now, he's not going to have many chances. He has said many times that he's not opposed to being aggressive for the right player and fit. He's always used Defforest Buckner as that example. On a smaller level of aggressiveness, they traded up for Jonathan Taylor in the 2nd round to ensure they got him. 

 

I think the time is now to be aggressive with a few big moves in both free agency or via trade prior to the draft. And then possibly making a trade up to ensure you get a playmaker that is added to this roster. Maybe after this year, Steichen feels Pierce isn't a good fit and they can package him. I think he could be appealing to some teams, not as a high value by any means, but if you can upgrade the receiver group by replacing him, then don't delay.

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6 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

My argument for breaking precedent is that this is the first offseason that the qb position is set before it begins. Since 2019 (and it ended up not being set). He's got his qb. He was a few plays away from a division title. If he isn't aggressive now, he's not going to have many chances. He has said many times that he's not opposed to being aggressive for the right player and fit. He's always used Defforest Buckner as that example. On a smaller level of aggressiveness, they traded up for Jonathan Taylor in the 2nd round to ensure they got him. 

 

I think the time is now to be aggressive with a few big moves in both free agency or via trade prior to the draft. And then possibly making a trade up to ensure you get a playmaker that is added to this roster. Maybe after this year, Steichen feels Pierce isn't a good fit and they can package him. I think he could be appealing to some teams, not as a high value by any means, but if you can upgrade the receiver group by replacing him, then don't delay.

Agree 100%

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This team overachieved this year with all the injuries and young coaching staff. However, the defense was ranked 28th out of 32 teams. I think it will be on the defensive side of the ball at 15. 
 

15. Jared Verse, DE 6’4 250 lbs, Florida State 

 

This is a very deep WR class. I would wait until the 2nd round for a WR. 

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14 hours ago, smittywerb said:


 

1 Chicago 

2 Washington

3 New England

4 Arizona

5 LA Chargers

6 NY Giants

7 Tennessee

8 Atlanta

9 Chicago

10 NY Jets

11 Minnesota

12 Denver

13 Las Vegas

14 New Orleans

 

I see Arizona (maybe), Tennesee, Atlanta going WR.  The others are going QB or OL.

 

Thats why I think we have to go WR.  I think there are 5-7 WR1s and we have the ability to get one of them.  If we trade back we’re not getting one of them.  Those WR1s will be gone and we’ll be looking at receivers with Alec Pierce talent level…again. 
 

MHJ, Nabers, Thomas, Odunze, Coleman, Egbuka, Adonai (even though he doesn’t fit ballards type)

 

MHJ, Nabers, and Odunze are gone before us most likely.  I would love to grab Coleman at 15.  And if Arizona doesn’t go WR, then that means one of the top 3 falls to us.  No reason for us to trade back.

chicago will go Wr also 

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1 minute ago, coltsfanatic24 said:

This team overachieved this year with all the injuries and young coaching staff. However, the defense was ranked 28th out of 32 teams. I think it will be on the defensive side of the ball at 15. 
 

15. Jared Verse, DE 6’4 250 lbs, Florida State 

 

This is a very deep WR class. I would wait until the 2nd round for a WR. 

They were ranked that bad because of Gus. He refused to be aggressive with blitzing let teams have 20 yards of cushion when it was 3rd and long so many times. 

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16 hours ago, smittywerb said:


Penix isn’t making it out of the top 10.  There are about 5 teams ahead of us who are going to go QB.

This is the big advantage in a year when you're not going to take a qb. Any type of run on qb's helps the Colts out tremendously. 

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With the 15th pick, The Indianapolis Colts select (Our version of Micah Parsons) Chop Robinson, DE, Penn State, still has so much more room to grow with a twitch you can't teach. The issue is his RAS will be elite and will be noticed by everyone.

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This seems like prime trade down area for Ballard tbh with you. I'd bet on it even.

 

I hope we would select Bowers if he's somehow available in our spot (doubtful, but possible due to QB/OL/WR needs in the top 10). That's a blue chip player, position be damned. Given Ogletree might be released due to his legal issues, and Mo is a FA (I think), TE might be more of a position of need then some think. He has all the potential of becoming an elite receiving/YAC option for AR while also being a solid blocker.

 

There are also interesting CB  (Kool aid and DeJean) and WR (Odunze, Nabers) prospects that might be available at our spot as well. Picking a WR in RD1 really depends on how Steichen views Pierce going forward. If he thinks he has a shot of dramatically improving his production with AR next year, then I kind of doubt we go WR early on. If he thinks he has no shot in his offense, and they really like a guy then they might go ahead and draft his replacement/competition.

 

DE seems like a waste of the #15 pick. We have a very solid DL group. They were far and away the best part of our defense this year. Unless you are sure to get a blue chip DE pass rusher, then I'd rather bet on Payed/Dayo to continue developing next year and Ebukam to hold the fort. Paye and Dayo both almost had 10 sacks this year and and have been very good edge defenders. Other positional groups need a lot more help.

 

CB is an obvious need on this roster as well, but Ballard might simply 'like his guys' that he picked last year, despite their lack of production. If we trade down, I can easily see Ballard going for one of the top LBs in the draft as well in the early 2nd/late 1st. We are weak enough in a bunch of positions to make BPA a real thing this year.

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I can see us move AR to tight end and draft a QB.  Seriously wouldn't mind drafting Brock Bowers if he falls.  Pittman talking about due diligence might end up elsewhere next season.  Suppose we could get Tee Higgens but Brian Thomas Jr (LSU) might be a draft target.  Shall be interesting to see who falls to us on draft day for sure. 

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16 hours ago, OhioColt said:

I can see us move AR to tight end and draft a QB.

In no world is this happening.

 

16 hours ago, OhioColt said:

Seriously wouldn't mind drafting Brock Bowers if he falls.  Pittman talking about due diligence might end up elsewhere next season.  Suppose we could get Tee Higgens but Brian Thomas Jr (LSU) might be a draft target.  Shall be interesting to see who falls to us on draft day for sure. 

Even with the full TE room, Bowers would be hard to pass on if he fell.

 

I think Pittman wants to be able to field offers to give him leverage in contract negotiations, but unless he's demanding something crazy that we won't give and another team will, I see him back.

 

Brian Thomas Jr is a solid prospect, but a bit of a different mold than Pittman. I think he'd be more of a Z like Pierce than an X. I'm definitely intrigued by how all of this will go down.

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