GoColts8818 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: Number one priority this offseason has to be fixing the secondary. Someone laughed at my post this morning about needing to draft a CB high. These backups we have are just that. Backups who should not be starters. Brent’s has not been able to stay healthy so you need to make sure you have insurance there. The secondary is hurt. Once they get the hurt players back there might not be much to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, richard pallo said: I’m expecting Taylor back now. If we had won no. But it’s been almost three weeks. Time to get back out there. From what i gather it was worse when they got in there to fix it. Rap said 3 to 5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfeva Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 If they beat Pittsburgh, they’ll be the 7th seed. If you would have told me they would lose Richardson for the year (and Woods &Taylor for much of it), and still had a shot at the playoffs, I would’ve signed up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgacoltsfan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 There's a rumor that Frank Reich gave an inspiring halftime speech to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: I am going to go with the team and doctors who actually rather than any timeline set by fans on a message board. Good for you. 3-5 weeks last I read. He should be close enough. These guys are supposed to be tough professionals. Not high school kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 not sure why everyone was calling for us to blitz so much vs Chase and Higgins, plus we were liable to screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, richard pallo said: Good for you. 3-5 weeks last I read. He should be close enough. These guys are supposed to be tough professionals. Not high school kids. 3 to 5 weeks means he might not be ready for five weeks not three just because you want him out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, AKB said: not sure why everyone was calling for us to blitz so much vs Chase and Higgins, plus we were liable to screens. Yeah I don’t get it either. Blitzing means your corners are on islands and the Colts struggle enough when they play zone with help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, richard pallo said: Good for you. 3-5 weeks last I read. He should be close enough. These guys are supposed to be tough professionals. Not high school kids. Oh, Dear God……. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, RollerColt said: Coaching 101: you put your LT on the best defender on that side. What Steichen did is what he’s supposed to do. You’ve got to put trust in that player and let him cut his teeth. Raimann learned a lot from fighting Hendrickson all day. The loss sucks but in the long run this can only help our tackle grow. No coaching 101 is knowing the playoffs are on the line and bringing a TE to help chip on that side. You don’t just let your player get beat for a learning experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, RollerColt said: Coaching 101: you put your LT on the best defender on that side. What Steichen did is what he’s supposed to do. You’ve got to put trust in that player and let him cut his teeth. Raimann learned a lot from fighting Hendrickson all day. The loss sucks but in the long run this can only help our tackle grow. No. The LT is in the same place every play. The defense chooses the matchups. He should have had some te help, but I don't think that was the difference in the outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, jvan1973 said: No. The LT is in the same place every play. The defense chooses the matchups. He should have had some te help, but I don't think that was the difference in the outcome I think the problem was they were having to help Freeland with Smith out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosejawcolt Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: You’ve been gone about 2-3 weeks while the Colts were winning. Now, after a loss, look who is back to enjoy the loss! What a surprise?! How completely predictable…. Why did I take a break? I said because of what? They beat garbage teams and fans and media were like oh they are getting better. U can't be to hard on them for beating bad teams. I sat back and said wait til they play a talented team. Both teams had back up qbs and the difference in talent was so apparent. Everything disappeared when they played a good team. Pass rush was non existent. They couldn't run the ball. Wrs could not make plays. It was the same old. Ballard will get a repreave as he always does because we went on a roll, and people thought there was more talent on this team than there actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: No coaching 101 is knowing the playoffs are on the line and bringing a TE to help chip on that side. You don’t just let your player get beat for a learning experience. 7 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: No. The LT is in the same place every play. The defense chooses the matchups. He should have had some te help, but I don't think that was the difference in the outcome Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: Yeah I don’t get it either. Blitzing means your corners are on islands and the Colts struggle enough when they play zone with help. What we don’t know because we didn’t try is how well browning would handle the blitz. You have to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 MPJ should break 1k yards next week. Needs 16 yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, richard pallo said: Good for you. 3-5 weeks last I read. He should be close enough. These guys are supposed to be tough professionals. Not high school kids. Dear God What complete nonsense 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: Oh, Dear God……. Just now, jskinnz said: Dear God What complete nonsense Two Dear Gods on one post thats impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: Two Dear Gods on one post thats impressive. It deserves the Dear God double stamp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobbinblitz Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Despite the loss, it’s great to see the Colts playing meaningful games in December. The intensity of these games will only accelerate the growth of the young colts players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: Number one priority this offseason has to be fixing the secondary. Someone laughed at my post this morning about needing to draft a CB high. These backups we have are just that. Backups who should not be starters. Brent’s has not been able to stay healthy so you need to make sure you have insurance there. I think our rookie corner #40 Jones looks like he's going to be a very good starter going forward 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, 1959Colts said: I think our rookie corner #40 Jones looks like he's going to be a very good starter going forward He was bad today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: Two Dear Gods on one post thats impressive. To be fair….. jskinnz is the original author of “Dear God” and I admire him for that and much more. When I borrow, I try to borrow from some of the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He was bad today ...as was nearly every other player on the team today. Jones also had some decent coverage at times today. I believe, Bradley's scheme is part of the problem. Every year our corners struggle, regardless of the changing names back there. Some here might mention Stephon Gilmore? But I thought he was just average (at best) last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 The really unfortunate thing about today was the opportunity we fumbled away. We get to brush it off with a “well at least everyone else lost”, but had we handled business it would have been a massive boost to our playoff push and positioning. Of course the dingy side of that silver lining is now we’ve seen what it looks like when we’re playing another team in, or trying to make the field instead of the bottom half of the order… If you thought today was ugly it was honestly just a preview of January football 🤷🏻♂️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuls1v3 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: I thought after we tied it going into half we really had a chance to start the game over but we did not make adjustments and players and coaches were not prepared. Hopefully smith, speed, and Brent’s are back next week. I doubt Taylor will be back. Dteichen has to get more creative with running the ball. Not just run it up the gut. I've noticed this too. why don't we ever stretch the defense on the sidelines. it's frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebombers87 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, John Waylon said: The really unfortunate thing about today was the opportunity we fumbled away. We get to brush it off with a “well at least everyone else lost”, but had we handled business it would have been a massive boost to our playoff push and positioning. Of course the dingy side of that silver lining is now we’ve seen what it looks like when we’re playing another team in, or trying to make the field instead of the bottom half of the order… If you thought today was ugly it was honestly just a preview of January football 🤷🏻♂️ Agreed. We are not a playoff team even, maybe even with AR. We may make the playoffs but we’re so deficient in many aspects that if we play a truly elite team we’ll be handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, 1959Colts said: ...as was nearly every other player on the team today. Jones also had some decent coverage at times today. I believe, Bradley's scheme is part of the problem. Every year our corners struggle, regardless of the changing names back there. Some here might mention Stephon Gilmore? But I thought he was just average (at best) last year Gilmore? With the Colts? Average? At best? Goodness. Never thought I’d see that here…. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, compuls1v3 said: I've noticed this too. why don't we ever stretch the defense on the sidelines. it's frustrating. Colts haven’t stretched a defense for years. Hopefully next year with Richardson we are able too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, bluebombers87 said: Agreed. We are not a playoff team even, maybe even with AR. We may make the playoffs but we’re so deficient in many aspects that if we play a truly elite team we’ll be handled. Richardson would have had defenses confused and he would stretch the field. Of course he is a rookie so you never know if he would make rookie mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebombers87 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: Richardson would have had defenses confused and he would stretch the field. Of course he is a rookie so you never know if he would make rookie mistakes. I’m hopeful but let’s see what he can do before we assume what he can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1959Colts said: ...as was nearly every other player on the team today. Jones also had some decent coverage at times today. I believe, Bradley's scheme is part of the problem. Every year our corners struggle, regardless of the changing names back there. Some here might mention Stephon Gilmore? But I thought he was just average (at best) last year He definitely had a couple of nice coverages today. Wasn’t he the one that got absolutely hosed on that PI call? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebombers87 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, John Waylon said: He definitely had a couple of nice coverages today. Wasn’t he the one that got absolutely hosed on that PI call? I can’t recall but that was a bogus call. He was thrown down by Chase. Chase was the only one who had meaningful contact with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyecolt Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 All around bad game in every facet. ST’s was brutal. The Bengals dared Minshew to beat them and he couldn’t. Nelson missed a few blocks especially in the 1st half. The defense wasn’t good and they were on the field too much. Once I saw that penalty was 15 yards then I thought it was a no brainer to move them back and take the penalty. I wouldn’t have declined it if I was Steichen. The need to flush this one and get back to work. Every CB in the league gets burned at some point so Baker getting burned by Higgins only bothers me so much. The thing that bothers me about Baker the last few weeks isn’t his pass coverage it’s that he tackles like a pu SS ey. It’s not why they lost by any means but the officials in the 1st half were brutal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I don't think anyone realistically thought this team would get to 7 wins this year. It's bonus at this point. If they sneak into the playoffs, even better 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 This entire season colts have played complimentary football. When one phase was struggling the other picked them up. Today was was a breakdown in all 3 stages of the game. Actually 4 when you include coaching on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: Dteichen has to get more creative with running the ball. Not just run it up the gut. Absolutely. He needs to rework the whole running attack. ...Sad to say, but our running game, is starting to look more and more like Reich's. Shane comes out every week and the game plan seems to be pass every down and run a play here and there to try and catch them off guard. Maybe this approach could be acceptable if your QB was Manning? or Marino? but certainly not with Minshew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said: Agreed. We are not a playoff team even, maybe even with AR. We may make the playoffs but we’re so deficient in many aspects that if we play a truly elite team we’ll be handled. I do feel like AR would make a difference. His early season development had a really nice upward trend to it and I do feel that if we had him out there it would make us a much more formidable team. Just because of the unpredictability factor if nothing else. 1 minute ago, bluebombers87 said: I can’t recall but that was a bogus call. He was thrown down by Chase. Chase was the only one who had meaningful contact with anyone. Yeah, that was a terrible call. And it came from a ref 15 yards away, while the ref standing 6 feet away with the play unfolding right in front of him decided not to flag it. Then they congressed and instead of siding with the ref right on top of the play they went with the one who saw it from the next town over. 🤨 Of all the rotten calls today the only one worse was the holding in Nelson that took away the Moss score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, 1959Colts said: Absolutely. He needs to rework the whole running attack. ...Sad to say, but our running game, is starting to look more and more like Reich's. Shane comes out every week and the game plan seems to be pass every down and run a play here and there to try and catch them off guard. Maybe this approach could be acceptable if your QB was Manning? or Marino? but certainly not with Minshew Colts number one priority should be coming out to establish the run. He did not do that today and it got us behind the sticks early then bengals took the lead and it was over with running. You can’t come out and just throw the ball like that to start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: I don't think anyone realistically thought this team would get to 7 wins this year. It's bonus at this point. If they sneak into the playoffs, even better Agree completely. Sundays this fall have been more fun than I expected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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