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  •  Colts Release Unofficial Depth Chart Preseason (08/18, below)
  • Dates
    • August 16: Roster cutdown from 90 to 85.
    • August 23: Roster cutdown from 85 to 80.
    • 08/25 Unofficial Depth Chart (update) - Pre Season 08/27 (Tampa Bay)
    • August 30: Final roster cutdown to 53.
    • August 31: Waiver period for players released Aug. 30 expires, and teams can form practice squads. Players placed on IR or NFI after 4 p.m. ET can be designated to return.
    • September 4: Final day of preseason training camp for all teams.

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Green - Lock (IMO)

Blue - Good (53 IMO)

Purple - Good or ??, but #s?

Red - ? cutdown possible 85 to 80 ? 

 

 

 Colts Release Unofficial Depth Chart Preseason (08/18, below)

 

  • Offense
    • » QB: Matt Ryan, Nick Foles, Sam Ehlinger, Jack Coan
      • 2021:   3 - Wentz, Eason, Ehlinger

      • 2022:   2-3?

    • » RB: Jonathan Taylor, Nyheim Hines, Phillip Lindsay, Ty'Son Williams, Deon Jackson, D'Vonte Price, CJ Verdell
      • 2021:    4 - Taylor, Hines, Mack, JWilkins   
      • 2022:    3-4? (prefer 3)
    • » WR: Parris Campbell, Keke Coutee (ST Returns, true slot), DeMichael Harris
    • » WR: Michael Pittman Jr., Ashton Dulin (ST Returns), Ethan Fernea, D.J. Montgomery
    • » WR: Alec Pierce, Dezmon Patmon, Samson Nacua, Mike Strachan (great week)
      • 2021:    7 - Pittman, Pascal, Campbell, Dulin, Hilton, Patmon, Strachan

      • 2022:    6-7 (3 are hard.... prefer 7)

    • » TE: Mo Alie-Cox, Nikola Kalinic
    • » TE: Kylen Granson, Jelani Woods, Michael Jacobson
      • 2021:    3 - MAC, Doyle, Granson 
      • 2022:    3-4 (prefer 3)
    • » LT: Matt Pryor, Bernhard Raimann, Jordan Murray
    • » LG: Quenton Nelson
    • » C: Ryan Kelly, Wesley French, Alex Mollette
    • » RG: Danny Pinter, Will Fries, Josh Seltzner
    • » RT: Braden Smith, Ryan Van Demark, Dennis Kelly
      • 2021:    10 - Smith (RT), Glow (RG), Kelly (C), Nelson (LG), Fisher (LT), Depth.... Pryor (RT, LT, G), Pinter (C, G), Reed (G), Fries (iOL), Davenport (T)   
      • 2022:     9-10 (either)
      • Note
        • Dennis Kelly - procedure first week, Colts haven’t put him on the PUP?
        • Van Demark - bad... struggled in pass protection. The UDFA allowed two sacks on third down against Lions DE Austin Bryant. 
        • No news...  ?? French, Fries, Van Demark, and Murray.... ?? Seltzner, Mollette... ??
        • Add a cut/waiver 08/31 ???
  • DEFENSE
    • » LDE: Kwity Paye (DE, LEO, 3T), Tyquan Lewis (DE/3T), Ifeadi Odenigbo (DE/LEO - nice stats), Kameron Cline (DE/3T)
    • » DT: DeForest Buckner (3T, DE), R.J. McIntosh (3T/DT/NT), Curtis Brooks (DT), Byron Cowart (DT/NT)
    • » NT: Grover Stewart (NT), Eric Johnson II (NT/DT), Caeveon Patton (NT), Chris Williams (NT - leg)
    • » RDE: Yannick Ngakoue (LEO), Ben Banogu (LEO - ??), Dayo Odeyingbo (DE/3T - IMO RDE rush, maybe 3T passing)
      • 2021:   11 -  AQM (LDE), Lewis (LDE/DT), Paye (RDE) Defo (DT/3T), Stewart (NT) --- Depth --- Turay (DE), Rochell (DE/DT), Stallworth (DT/3T), Williams (NT/3T), Woods (DT), Banogu (DE)
      • 2022:   9-11
      • Ifeadi Odenigbo >>> Banogu ???
        • IO - sack, 3 QBHs (Lions), impressed
      • Dayo Odeyingbo
        • 2 sacks, 2 QBHs, inside and outside...  (Lions)
      • Johnson and Brooks - weak stats... not impressed, year at PS?
    • » WLB: Bobby Okereke, E.J. Speed, Sterling Weatherford, Brandon King
    • » MLB: Shaquille Leonard, Forrest Rhyne, James Skalski
    • » SAM: Zaire Franklin, JoJo Domann
      • 2021:   6  -  Leonard, Oke, Franklin  --- Depth ---- Speed, Adams, Glasgow
      • 2022:   6-7... big choices between 4 (purple)
    • » N: Kenny Moore II, Tony Brown
    • » CB: Stephon Gilmore, Isaiah Rodgers, Anthony Chesley, Dallis Flowers (ST return preseason)
    • » CB: Brandon Facyson, Marvell Tell III, Chris Wilcox
      • 2021:   6  -  Rhodes, Ya-Sin, Moore,  --- Depth --  Carrie, Rodgers, Chachere, Tell
      • 2022:   5-6  - Hard choices
    • » FS: Julian Blackmon, Rodney Thomas II, Will Redmond, Marcel Dabo
    • » SS: Nick Cross, Rodney McLeod, Armani Watts, Trevor Denbow
      • 2021 - 3  - Blackmon, Willis, Odum, 
      • 2022 - 3-4  - Hard choices
  • SPECIALISTS
    • » PK: Rodrigo Blankenship, Jake Verity
    • » H+P: Rigoberto Sanchez
    • » LS: Luke Rhodes
    • » KR: Isaiah Rodgers, Ashton Dulin
    • » PR: Nyheim Hines, Keke Coutee
      • Returning also Harris (Lions) and Flowers (Lions and Bills)
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Biggest concern (IMHO) O line.  Not too sure about two of the starters and the depth is scary.  Should have kept Reed.  
 

Some would say we have the worst WR group in the NFL, and it would be hard to argue with that.  Lots of potential, but that can be said about every team.  

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I can't see it breaking any other way with the injury to the TE, than Granson, woods, mo cox.... 

RB Taylor, Hines, Lindsay, plus one... Hines counts as .5 RB and .5 wr....

Wr..... Pit, Campbell, Pierce, Dulin, Patmon, Strachan.   

 

That's ten primary pass catchers counting Hines, close to 45% of your entire offensive roster of 24/26

 

Also.... I know a lot of people are concerned a out a backup slot.... But Hines aside, who says your third WR has to be a small speed guy?  We have absolutely massive amounts of speed, so if any of them are agile enough... Those larger frames can play slot no?  ( I know the route tree is modified)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Biggest concern (IMHO) O line.  Not too sure about two of the starters and the depth is scary.  Should have kept Reed.  
 

Some would say we have the worst WR group in the NFL, and it would be hard to argue with that.  Lots of potential, but that can be said about every team.  

See I don't see the OL concerns other than health worries....but outside Kelly, out guys don't seem to get dinged more than average.

 

Pryor will have to prove himself all year of course, but Q, Kelly, Pinter, Smith is pretty solid as a starting five.... Pinter hasn't been amazing, but someone has to be the least of the good.....

 

Dennis Kelly is very solid depth all along the line, fries is developing as you'd expect, raimann will need some work but has everything you want in a cheap developing backup..... Van Demark has the most potential of the newcomers...but is the most raw....

 

Have to remember, OL are at such a premium, that there aren't even enough very good developed OL to fill each teams five starting positions in any given year.  Most colleges aren't turning out guys who are ready to play anymore....

 

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14 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Biggest concern (IMHO) O line.  Not too sure about two of the starters and the depth is scary.  Should have kept Reed.  
 

Some would say we have the worst WR group in the NFL, and it would be hard to argue with that.  Lots of potential, but that can be said about every team.  

Should have kept Glow or Reed... cheap... 

 

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16 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Should have kept Glow or Reed... cheap... 

 


I fully realize that Ballard has to pinch every penny to sign Q.  Reed would have been relatively cheap for a starting G.  But not as cheap as Danny.  I just hope Pinter continues to develop.  
 

Moslty concerned about depth at the tackles.  We’re counting on Kelly as the swing man.  At least until Raimann gets up to speed.  But where is he?   When is he ready to play?   avail-ability, right?

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1 hour ago, Smonroe said:


I fully realize that Ballard has to pinch every penny to sign Q.  Reed would have been relatively cheap for a starting G.  But not as cheap as Danny.  I just hope Pinter continues to develop.  
 

Moslty concerned about depth at the tackles.  We’re counting on Kelly as the swing man.  At least until Raimann gets up to speed.  But where is he?   When is he ready to play?   avail-ability, right?

 

Pinter - C....

Reed/Glow - RG

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Verdell and Jackson are gone.....Price will last another week and get onto PS

Our D Line is going to be very....interesting...liking what I see from many players

CB 5-6 still not looking solid. Brown may have an inside track but think we will go fishing after 53 deadline.....

Ability to help in returns may get someone a spot, Rodgers wont be a return man this year as too valuable and injury % too high...Coutee was looking good there now maybe Flowers or harris

 

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3 hours ago, Jackie Daytona said:

I can't see it breaking any other way with the injury to the TE, than Granson, woods, mo cox.... 

RB Taylor, Hines, Lindsay, plus one... Hines counts as .5 RB and .5 wr....

Wr..... Pit, Campbell, Pierce, Dulin, Patmon, Strachan.   

 

That's ten primary pass catchers counting Hines, close to 45% of your entire offensive roster of 24/26

 

Also.... I know a lot of people are concerned a out a backup slot.... But Hines aside, who says your third WR has to be a small speed guy?  We have absolutely massive amounts of speed, so if any of them are agile enough... Those larger frames can play slot no?  ( I know the route tree is modified)

 

 

I realize they won’t cut Granson, but he has done little in my opinion to make the team. He sure does drop a lot of balls. 

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Should have kept Glow or Reed... cheap... 

 

 

 Glow wasn't cheap (like a 1st contract player) and Reed was at best ok but went HOME to MINN. as was his wish. Woulda coulda shoulda bla bla bla.

We are maxed out with o-line salary.

 I would agree as of TODAY, our G interest radar level at final cuts will be on. 

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I realize they won’t cut Granson, but he has done little in my opinion to make the team. He sure does drop a lot of balls. 

 

 Speaking of a 2nd year player that did plenty AS A ROOKIE to make the team and earned PT early.  Ryan throws mostly ropes in the short game so there will be drops. Brees was something else with timing and touch. 

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IMO, TEs, LBs, and RBs can be stashed on the PS.  I'd put  Jacobsen, Williams, Rhyne, Seltzner and Van Demark on the PS.

 

I'd keep Ehlinger, Weatherford, and Domann as the bubble guys. 

 

And I'd look for another veteran S on the waiver wire.

 

Odenigbo > Benogu.  Yes.

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COLTS 53-MAN ROSTER PROJECTION HEADING FINAL WEEK OF TRAINING CAMP   Kevin Bowen

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sports-news/colts/colts-53-man-roster-projection-heading-final-week-of-training-camp/

 

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August 23: Roster cutdown from 85 to 80.

Bryan Cox was cut long ago,he must have missed it. Jackson isnt making this squad,Patmon cut ?  Only 5 Corners ?  8 O line only, not a chance.

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47 minutes ago, holeymoley99 said:

Bryan Cox was cut long ago,he must have missed it. Jackson isnt making this squad,Patmon cut ?  Only 5 Corners ?  8 O line only, not a chance.


Yeah….  He prefers Coutee and his more flanker like ability than Patmon who he sees more like Strachan.   Too many big bodies. 
 

I like Kevin a lot, but sometimes I think he overthinks things.   This may be one of them. 

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Here is my final roster prediction (baring last second pickups from other teams):

 

Offense (25)

QB:(3) Matt Ryan, Nick Foles, Sam Ehlinger

 

RB:(4) Johnathan Taylor, Nyheim Hines, Phillip Lindsey, Deon Jackson

 

WR:(7) Michael Pittman Jr, (r)Alec Pierce, Parris Campbell, Ashton Dulin, Dezmon Patmon, Michael Strachan, and Keke Coutee (for returner)

 

TE:(3) Mo Alie Cox, (r)Jelani Woods, Kylen Granson

 

OT:(4) Braden Smith, Matt Pryor, (r)Bernhard Raimann, Dennis Kelly

 

OG:(3) Quenton Nelson, Danny Pinter, Will Fries

 

C:(2) Ryan Kelly, (r)Wesley French

 

Defense: (25)

DE:(5) Kwity Paye, Yannick Ngakoue, Dayo Odeyingbo, Tyquan Lewis, Ifeadi Odenigbo

 

DT:(4) DeForest Buckner, Grover Stewart, (r)Eric Johnson, (r)Curtis Brooks

 

LB:(6)  Shaquille Leonard, Bobby Okereke, Zaire Franklin, EJ Speed, (r)Jojo Domann, Sterling Weatherford

 

CB:(5) Stephon Gilmore, Kenny Moore, Isaiah Rodgers, Brandon Facyson, Anthony Chesley

 

S:(4) Julian Blackmon, (r) Nick Cross, Rodney Mcleod, (r)Rodney Thomas

 

SPT (3)

K:(1) Rodrigo Blankenship

 

P:(1) Matt Haack

 

LS:(1) Luke Rhodes

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Bowen’s final roster and frankly I think it’s pretty good and going to be pretty close to real thing.  Frankly I like it more than mine once I read his points.  Only thing I disagree with him on is I am not sure how you can keep Brown over Chesley but if we are talking about the fifth corner I am not going to get worked up over it.

 

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sports-news/colts/final-colts-53-man-roster-projection-before-cuts/

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