ColtsArmy84 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 nfl.com No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 It is just being reported that RF failed his combine drug test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Beat me to it and boy do I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 OK..... To recap.... he's got bad shoulders.... He's failed at least one drug test.... And the latest buzz is the NFL has concerns over the people that Foster hangs out with........ I think we have our candidate for 1st round player who might fall further than some think... I'm not saying he falls out of the first round -- but he might -- only that once upon a time he was looked at by some as a top-5 guy. Then it became top-10. Then top-15 with Indy a possibility. Now? Who knows? EDIT: I just read that the failed drug test was at the COMBINE!! I'll never understand kids who can't stay clean enough to be drug free at the combine. You know when it is... it's on the calendar. you know how long you have to be off he stuff. And you STILL fail the test? No thanks.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801347/article/alabama-linebacker-reuben-foster-failed-drug-test-at-combine based on the story it sounds like a result of him being sick and the test was "diluted". We'll see how that turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRnINDY Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, JRnINDY said: Thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, PeterBowman said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801347/article/alabama-linebacker-reuben-foster-failed-drug-test-at-combine based on the story it sounds like a result of him being sick and the test was "diluted". We'll see how that turns out. Thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadine Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 self sabatouge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Nadine said: self sabatouge Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKColt13 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Good lord. Bad to worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, UKColt13 said: Good lord. Bad to worse. 1st Round to 3rd Day or UDFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Alright, this was the guy I have always wanted but it's becoming very clear he doesn't know how to be a functional human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 DAMN! I wanted him so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said: 1st Round to 3rd Day or UDFA? with his talent I bet 2nd round at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finball Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Diluted sample is a failed test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, PeterBowman said: with his talent I bet 2nd round at worst. It could depend on the ramifications of the test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Finball said: Diluted sample is a failed test? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Glad for this. Not interested in his attitude or smaller physique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shive Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: 1st Round to 3rd Day or UDFA? I could see a slip to the upper to mid 2nd, but no further. With it being a diluted sample vs an outright positive test for a substance, I can see a team pulling the trigger in the 2nd. I'm fine without taking him, but that also means Reddick becomes the #1 ILB prospect and most likely is gone by 15... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finball Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Yes I just checked NFLs official document on this. As diluted sample isn't that rare, and in Olympic sports testing it happens quite often and isn't punished in anyway; but in NFL drug testing program, the criteria is very low so if one has that dilute sample, it's probably because some sort of diuretic/masking agent has been used. Being very sick is another option but not sure that's the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyScribe Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Do you guys even know how to read? It's a diluted sample. I also like his attitude regarding the "failed" drug test. It's hard to tell whether he actually has food poisoning, but the way he approached it was nice. If he falls to 15, I definitely want him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He is pretty sure now to fall to #15 what a dilemma. Did he cheat? it looks like it but this could stink of a character issue so take him or not??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Finball said: Diluted sample is a failed test? In pretty much every facet of life, yes. (EDIT: Just wanted to mention I wasn't trying to be condescending, I just read it a second time and wanted to make it clear my intention) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 So sad to see a guy who had so much talent sabotage his future like this. Really liked the guy before all this crap came rolling down hill, and now more just keeps coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Looks like those people who took issue with his maturity aren't crazy after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-549 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said: In pretty much every facet of life, yes. lol.... much truth within that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-549 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 What a dope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, IndyScribe said: Do you guys even know how to read? It's a diluted sample. I also like his attitude regarding the "failed" drug test. It's hard to tell whether he actually has food poisoning, but the way he approached it was nice. If he falls to 15, I definitely want him there. Where there is smoke there is fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, BR-549 said: lol.... much truth within that statement I worked in a drug rehab court program as an intern, it happens ALL. THE. TIME. And they get called out on it with other people in the program in an effort to basically tell everyone else, "Hey, we know you drank too much water on purpose. We can tell, so just don't do it or you'll get in more trouble for trying to evade it." They knew they were getting tested, they were told not to drink over a certain amount within x hours before testing, but people did it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: OK..... To recap.... he's got bad shoulders.... He's failed at least one drug test.... And the latest buzz is the NFL has concerns over the people that Foster hangs out with........ I think we have our candidate for 1st round player who might fall further than some think... I'm not saying he falls out of the first round -- but he might -- only that once upon a time he was looked at by some as a top-5 guy. Then it became top-10. Then top-15 with Indy a possibility. Now? Who knows? EDIT: I just read that the failed drug test was at the COMBINE!! I'll never understand kids who can't stay clean enough to be drug free at the combine. You know when it is... it's on the calendar. you know how long you have to be off he stuff. And you STILL fail the test? No thanks.......... Couldn't agree more. Speaks to plain old intelligence (or lack of it) or to some character flaw that is preventing him from making poor decisions. Either one will eventually affect his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dw49 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: OK..... To recap.... he's got bad shoulders.... He's failed at least one drug test.... And the latest buzz is the NFL has concerns over the people that Foster hangs out with........ I think we have our candidate for 1st round player who might fall further than some think... I'm not saying he falls out of the first round -- but he might -- only that once upon a time he was looked at by some as a top-5 guy. Then it became top-10. Then top-15 with Indy a possibility. Now? Who knows? EDIT: I just read that the failed drug test was at the COMBINE!! I'll never understand kids who can't stay clean enough to be drug free at the combine. You know when it is... it's on the calendar. you know how long you have to be off he stuff. And you STILL fail the test? No thanks.......... I think he goes to day 2. I'll say around pick 2.45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, IndyScribe said: Do you guys even know how to read? It's a diluted sample. I also like his attitude regarding the "failed" drug test. It's hard to tell whether he actually has food poisoning, but the way he approached it was nice. If he falls to 15, I definitely want him there. Yes, because people know how to avoid positive samples. People do it all the time and its that reason that diluted samples are treated as positives. This isn't some ground breaking concept. It happens all the time in drug rehab programs because people seem to think they can get away with it (some actually do). In their mind, i'ts better to drink too much water and hope to get away with it than go into a test and admit defeat. So when there's a diluted sample (and this is ESPECIALLY true when you know you are getting one), a diluted sample is rightfully treated as a positive result. You are told beforehand not to drink to X amount water within X time before your test or it will dilute the sample and be treated as a positive. If you go in and give a diluted sample, chances are, you're trying to cheat the results. So yes, we know how to read. We just know what it means when the sample is diluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-549 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said: I worked in a drug rehab court program as an intern, it happens ALL. THE. TIME. And they get called out on it with other people in the program in an effort to basically tell everyone else, "Hey, we know you drank too much water on purpose. We can tell, so just don't do it or you'll get in more trouble for trying to evade it." They knew they were getting tested, they were told not to drink over a certain amount within x hours before testing, but people did it anyway. Sure they did and that will never change. I am "positive" RF knew he was getting tested too...and he also was aware of what you are saying... maybe this was part of his aggravation prior to getting sent home.... he knew he would test positive. Too bad, he is a good LBr..... someone will deal with it though just like always. Edited April 20, 2017 by BR-549 abbreviated for positive which I didn't expect to trigger the content filter, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, BR-549 said: Sure they did and that will never change. I am "positive" RF knew he was getting tested too...and he also was aware of what you are saying... maybe this was part of his aggravation prior to getting sent home.... he knew he would test *. Too bad, he is a good LBr..... someone will deal with it though just like always. The scary part is that Drug Screening at the combine is not new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said: Alright, this was the guy I have always wanted but it's becoming very clear he doesn't know how to be a functional human. That's a bit of an overstatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BR-549 said: Sure they did and that will never change. I am "positive" RF knew he was getting tested too...and he also was aware of what you are saying... maybe this was part of his aggravation prior to getting sent home.... he knew he would test *. Too bad, he is a good LBr..... someone will deal with it though just like always. Yeah, this will drop his draft stock a bit - not sure how far. It's always a toss up. Tunsil dropped like 10 picks or something. Randy Gregory dropped almost 2 rounds. If I recall, Gregory tested positive at the combine, while Tunsil's was an old video. So I'm thinking this is more like Gregory. He may not drop that far because I think Gregory already had some weed busts on his record, but I wouldn't be surprised if Foster dropped a full round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 If the doctors gave the thumbs up I would still take him. I couldn't care less about his argument with some nurse or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-549 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: The scary part is that Drug Screening at the combine is not new True.... some people have to be retrained when they return from lunch too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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