Carter Is Gone.

[Esquire59]

IMO he wont be on the practice squad. I think the Colts are done with him. He cant seem to learn to run a decent route and didn't impress anyone at camp or in pre season games. All the excitement from his signing was for nothing. I could be wrong but it wouldn't be the first time.

Im not advocating or purposefully disagreeing Crazy, but I seem to recall he was THE talk of camp working with the ones? His PS game performance was close to atrocious. I am ambivalent to the cut but do note that I think you're off on the camp talk.

[K-148]

But he's SLOW, and he's SMALL, and doesn't get desperation. It other words he doesn't get to to many balls he can reach. Also, imo, if he ever played regularly he would be injury prone.

Griff Whalen

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=115107&draftyear=2012&genpos=WR

Duron Carter

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89528&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR

So, Griff Whalen is slow?!

[ColtsLegacy]

But he's SLOW, and he's SMALL, and doesn't get desperation. It other words he doesn't get to to many balls he can reach. Also, imo, if he ever played regularly he would be injury prone.

 

And Carter is SLOW, and plays like he's SMALL, and doesn't get "desperation". He also runs poor routes, wrong routes, has mediocre hands, and plays soft. Also, imo, your last sentence is just dumb and completely unfounded.

 

Griff Whalen isn't a world beater but he's a good special teamer and can be a reliable receiver if necessary. Duron Carter can't play special teams and isn't close to reliable.

[RockThatBlue]

But he's SLOW, and he's SMALL, and doesn't get desperation. It other words he doesn't get to to many balls he can reach. Also, imo, if he ever played regularly he would be injury prone.

Carter is big and tall and doesn't get separation.

[TKnight24]

Ballard can't go on PUP so that's not it.

So.... then please help me understand why a injury prone RB who had one good play this preseason made the roster over a young WR who balled out in TC and had a decent preseason

[AntonMcG]

Good, wasn't a fan. His 'training camp heroics' fuelling the sensationalism on this board made it harder for me to like him, that's not his fault though.

[AntonMcG]

So.... then please help me understand why a injury prone RB who had one good play this preseason made the roster over a young WR who balled out in TC and had a decent preseason

 

Ballard has played and succeeded in the NFL.

 

Carter played well in practice a few times.

 

Please, get real.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

So.... then please help me understand why a injury prone RB who had one good play this preseason made the roster over a young WR who balled out in TC and had a decent preseason

Because Carter just ain't good enough, where as Ballard has succeeded in real play.

[AntonMcG]

Surely the vast majority of users on this board have followed plenty of pre-seasons? Yet the routine stuff that happens year after year still seems to shock you all.

 

Strange bunch.

[TKnight24]

Because Carter just ain't good enough, where as Ballard has succeeded in real play.

But.... he's always hurt. I get that Carter is very raw. But I don't get keeping someone who just can't contribute at all cause they're never healthy

I just can't see Vick being on the roster come next Sunday

[RealityIsLuck]

Really hate this move. Holder says we're trying to put him on our PS, I doubt he makes it Carolina, Cleveland and Minnesota all offered him contracts in March.

[Hammer]

What is it that Ballard has done that has so many people enamored with him? He played his rookie season in 2012 and averaged 3.9 ypc. He's played briefly in 1 game since and now he's tweaked his hamstring.

[zo6scott]

Really hate this move. Holder says we're trying to put him on our PS, I doubt he makes it Carolina, Cleveland and Minnesota all offered him contracts in March.

Whatever, best of luck to him.

[southwest1]

But Vick Ballard stayed..... something isn't right

Something must be planned

Wait..Ballard is still on the Colts roster right now? I'm not doubting you TK or AC17 who left me with the impression Vick was gone & in all likelihood cleaning out his locker. I'm just confused I guess. 

 

Alright, I can't put this off any longer. I gotta go watch INDY vs the Bengals right now & see if I think Ballard is done playing for us or not. Be back after I watch the game on my DVR. 

[RealityIsLuck]

Because Carter just ain't good enough, where as Ballard has succeeded in real play.

I don't get what you're saying about Carter. He was our most impressive player in Training Camp and Ballard hasn't participated at TC since 2012. Also, you're saying Ballard has succeeded in "real play" and I assume you mean regular season games, but Carter hasn't gotten the chance to prove himself which is why this board is mad about this move. Ballard is a shell of himself, nobody comes back from an injury 100% let alone 2 and a current stinger.

[K-148]

This thread is not about Ballard, who's waiting his axe.

[ColtsLegacy]

Really hate this move. Holder says we're trying to put him on our PS, I doubt he makes it Carolina, Cleveland and Minnesota all offered him contracts in March.

 

All of those teams also saw Carter's poor play in preseason. 

[K-148]

Rayford was impressive in TC. Kerwynn Williams was impressive in TC. Rogers was impressive in TC. Every year same song.

[ColtsLegacy]

Wait..Ballard is still on the Colts right now? I'm not doubting you TK or AC17 who left me with the impression Vick was gone & in all likelihood cleaning out his locker. I'm just confused I guess. 

 

He's still a Colt. We have 5 RBs at the moment, expect one of them to be gone sooner or later.

[chrisfarley]

I don't understand this at all..

makes little sense.  now chris carter will be a Colts basher for life, much less his son.

[OhioColtsGirl]

I feel like the only one who liked Whalen more than Carter. 

[coltssteve460]

He not ready. Lost most of the time. Didn't block half the time,  didn't try to fight off defenders. Needs a year of weightlifting and whatever they to for training WR. Dad needs to work on his head. He not a superstar. Will get better. Hope he gets to Colts Practice squad

[TKnight24]

Wait..Ballard is still on the Colts right now? I'm not doubting you TK or AC17 who left me with the impression Vick was gone & in all likelihood cleaning out his locker. I'm just confused I guess.

Yes, he's on the 53man roster. So if we played buffalo tomorrow, Ballard would be there. Probably inactive but there

[RockThatBlue]

I feel like the only one who liked Whalen more than Carter.

I am with you.

Let's be honest here, if Durons last name was Smith or Johnson he wouldn't have got any hype.

[K-148]

I am with you.

Let's be honest here, if Durons last name was Smith or Johnson he wouldn't have got any hype.

He is 6-5. A lot of people were happy with Hank Baskett (6-4) arrival: deep threat, big red-zone target... The rest is history.

[crazycolt1]

makes little sense.  now chris carter will be a Colts basher for life, much less his son.

After Chris put his foot in his mouth and presented himself as an *, there will be some who wont care.

[coltssteve460]

Whalen is much better than Carter right now for the Colts. Height has nothing to do with it. Whalen can play special teams, block, tackle also if needed. Can Carter. Carter Wouldn't be playing any WR for a while anyway. Whalen can play some

[RealityIsLuck]

I am with you.

Let's be honest here, if Durons last name was Smith or Johnson he wouldn't have got any hype.

No hype around a 6'5 blazing fast receiver putting up big numbers in TC with Andrew/Matt?

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

But.... he's always hurt. I get that Carter is very raw. But I don't get keeping someone who just can't contribute at all cause they're never healthy

I just can't see Vick being on the roster come next Sunday

They're freak accident injuries. In theory his repaired ligaments are stronger than prveiously. Obviously he showed something to convince our staff. And also he could just be waiting for his turn in the unemployment line. By next Sunday our roster could be very different. no need for overreactions.

[zo6scott]

makes little sense.  now chris carter will be a Colts basher for life, much less his son.

oh no

[CanuckColt]

He is 6-5. A lot of people were happy with Hank Baskett (6-4) arrival: deep threat, big red-zone target... The rest is history.

There's no comparison to Hank Basket-case.  Carter is raw but is gonna be a valuable player.

As soon as Old Andre goes down (and he will) Grigs and Chuckles the Clown are gonna be very sorry.

[chrisfarley]

After Chris put his foot in his mouth and presented himself as an *, there will be some who wont care.

i must have missed that, please explain

[crazycolt1]

Im not advocating or purposefully disagreeing Crazy, but I seem to recall he was THE talk of camp working with the ones? His PS game performance was close to atrocious. I am ambivalent to the cut but do note that I think you're off on the camp talk.

Shining in camp and then not showing good talent in pre season seems to be a problem. It's no problem disagreeing with me so no need to worry about that. We all have different opinions.

[RockThatBlue]

No hype around a 6'5 blazing fast receiver putting up big numbers in TC with Andrew/Matt?

Big numbers in training camp means nothing if you don't produce in the games. And he was pretty bad until the last game.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

No hype around a 6'5 blazing fast receiver putting up big numbers in TC with Andrew/Matt?

He's not blazing fast. And the only drill he put up big numbers in was the redzone drill. The majority of which was with Matty. Tc studs don't make it in the NFL, often.

[crazycolt1]

i must have missed that, please explain

His totally off line in telling the rookies to get a fall guy for themselves instead of being responsible for their actions. I guess you missed that?

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

I don't get what you're saying about Carter. He was our most impressive player in Training Camp and Ballard hasn't participated at TC since 2012. Also, you're saying Ballard has succeeded in "real play" and I assume you mean regular season games, but Carter hasn't gotten the chance to prove himself which is why this board is mad about this move. Ballard is a shell of himself, nobody comes back from an injury 100% let alone 2 and a current stinger.

I'm pretty sure most of our starters playing as expected would be the "most impressive player in TC" one drill with backups(and sometimes starters) does not give you a spot on this roster.

[TKnight24]

They're freak accident injuries. In theory his repaired ligaments are stronger than prveiously. Obviously he showed something to convince our staff. And also he could just be waiting for his turn in the unemployment line. By next Sunday our roster could be very different. no need for overreactions.

They're still injuries. Shelf life for a RB is already short. Pulled the Hammy Thursday. Next time we might not see him on the field again

And PS: It's bones that come back stronger not ligaments

[RealityIsLuck]

He's not blazing fast. And the only drill he put up big numbers in was the redzone drill. The majority of which was with Matty. Tc studs don't make it in the NFL, often.

http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/100887

 

This can give you an idea of his short term speed. His burt is un-real. A 6'5" man should not be moving that fast. Saying he's not blazing fast is just untrue. There's a reason why most of his yards come after the catch, he's got moves and is very fast. He's very good after the catch.

[K-148]

There's no comparison to Hank Basket-case. Carter is raw but is gonna be a valuable player.

As soon as Old Andre goes down (and he will) Grigs and Chuckles the Clown are gonna be very sorry.

Why would Grigson and Pagano be sorry? And Carter is gonna be out of the league in 2 years.