subvet Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Sounds like Caldwell is doing anything to save his job now... i wonder who would take over if he was to be fired this season.Hire Kerry Collins as the head coach, he couldn't be any worse....just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I just heard that as wellThat is funning a week ago coach said he has'nt been given enough time. Wonder who is calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hire Kerry Collins as the head coach, he couldn't be any worse....just kidding.He is busy hunting in his new 4 million dollar deer stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacoltfan Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hopefully Polian was told "Tell Caldwell to 'fire him or clean out your office'" or clean out your office" ;)How interesting that a decade ago Mora told Polian to pound salt when asked to fire Fangio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitas19 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Keep cleaning house, boys! The only way to make me feel better about this season is to fire Caldwell...NOW! Why wait until the end of the year? He's been worthless since he came on board. In fact, I'd say he's been worthless his entire coaching career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
objectivecoltsfan Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ron Meeks anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGugly Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Keep cleaning house, boys! The only way to make me feel better about this season is to fire Caldwell...NOW! Why wait until the end of the year? He's been worthless since he came on board. In fact, I'd say he's been worthless his entire coaching career.Could NOT have said it better..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Keep cleaning house, boys! The only way to make me feel better about this season is to fire Caldwell...NOW! Why wait until the end of the year? He's been worthless since he came on board. In fact, I'd say he's been worthless his entire coaching career.DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CUT THE CALD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGugly Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ron Meeks anyone?ummmmm.....nah..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Horseshoe Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Why stop at Caldwell? If you are going to clean house then really clean house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ron Meeks anyone?No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremecoltsfan300 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Finally! We're makung progress. I am a little worried though. La confora made it soujd like coyer was fired b/c the colts want to focus MORE on the cover 2 n wanted less blitzing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I would bet on it being Clyde, I think he is safe as long as Peyton is here.why would you think that? Why do you think Clyde and Peyton even think alike? From what I saw last year they didn't seem to agree much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 If and when we get Luck is when the real make over starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
objectivecoltsfan Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 If and when we get Luck is when the real make over starts.I really hope that if we draft Luck, we bring in a new coaching staff because I sure don't trust this one to develop the QB of the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddonouttahere Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Irsay fiddles whilst Rome burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I really hope that if we draft Luck, we bring in a new coaching staff because I sure don't trust this one to develop the QB of the future.I am sure Luck has that same concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 why would you think that? Why do you think Clyde and Peyton even think alike? From what I saw last year they didn't seem to agree much.I just think that Manning and Moore worked so well together, nothing will ever look as cozy as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 How interesting that a decade ago Mora told Polian to pound salt when asked to fire Fangio.The parallel only works if there is reason to believe that Caldwell is personally loyal to Coyer, as Mora was to Fangio. Where is it written that a coach must stand by his staff regardless of the cost. It's his job to put the best assistants in place. If it isn't working, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swflacoltsfans Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 We may only lose to NE by 50 points now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This made my day [= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yes change was needed, but I do find the time interesting. I think the defense has played OK this year, the 10 yard cushion thing needs to go though. You see Chicago's playing cover 2 but doing more press coverage when the need to & it works!! We need to shake it up some. Although yardage wise we are near the bottom of the league alot of that is due to our POOR offense!! How may 3 & outs & 6 play drive can you have. Alot of injuries on the defensive side, not making excuses here & I wanted a change, but why not wait till the end of the year. Maybe the want to give Murphy a chance? I for one feel if we were going to fire someone NOW how about Christensen he is AWFUL, not inventive & a bad play caller!! Could be more changes & look forward to them!! Lots of guys getting valuable experience this year, if Peyton is back next year with some inprovement at some positions & a last place schedule we could be back quite quickly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsagent Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The pieces are falling into place...come on over Jack Del Rio and bring Jeff Fisher with you and we will rule the South for the next 10 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddmmann Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR:According to Michael Lombardi (when interviewed on the NFL network), Coyer didn't get along with the Colts because he wanted an aggressive/complex "get after the QB" defense with multiple blitz packages similar to what he developed in Denver but, the Colts wanted to keep a "Cover(Tampa) 2" based defense.He said, there wasn't any particular coach that wanted the "Cover 2" but it was an organizational philosophy; and that Coyer is glad to get out-of-there.He ended stating the obvious: " no coach is going to come in and make a difference, this team has a bunch of personnel issues that will have to be resolved during the off season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR:According to Michael Lombardi (when interviewed on the NFL network), Coyer didn't get along with the Colts because he wanted an aggressive/complex "get after the QB" defense with multiple blitz packages similar to what he developed in Denver but, the Colts wanted to keep a "Cover(Tampa) 2" based defense.He said, there wasn't any particular coach that wanted the "Cover 2" but it was an organizational philosophy; and that Coyer is glad to get out-of-there.He ended stating the obvious: " no coach is going to come in and make a difference, this team has a bunch of personnel issues that will have to be resolved during the off season." If we keep this same philosophy next year is there any doubt that Polian needs to be shown the door? That philosophy should have been changed at least 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I just think that Manning and Moore worked so well together, nothing will ever look as cozy as that.Moore taught Manning everything he knew then got out of the way. Clyde just seems to get in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yes change was needed, but I do find the time interesting. I think the defense has played OK this year, the 10 yard cushion thing needs to go though. You see Chicago's playing cover 2 but doing more press coverage when the need to & it works!! We need to shake it up some. Although yardage wise we are near the bottom of the league alot of that is due to our POOR offense!! How may 3 & outs & 6 play drive can you have. Alot of injuries on the defensive side, not making excuses here & I wanted a change, but why not wait till the end of the year. Maybe the want to give Murphy a chance? I for one feel if we were going to fire someone NOW how about Christensen he is AWFUL, not inventive & a bad play caller!! Could be more changes & look forward to them!! Lots of guys getting valuable experience this year, if Peyton is back next year with some inprovement at some positions & a last place schedule we could be back quite quickly!! We have maybe slowed the run down a couple of times this year, but you relize this defense is or near or at the bottom of every stasticical catagory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitas19 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The pieces are falling into place...come on over Jack Del Rio and bring Jeff Fisher with you and we will rule the South for the next 10 years!Great day, I forgot about Fisher!! Oh...now I know what Santy Claus can bring me for Christmas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Great day, I forgot about Fisher!! Oh...now I know what Santy Claus can bring me for Christmas!! Fisher is a go, but h**l no Del Rio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts_mp Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Manning will be offensive coordinator..fyi he's not playing next year. Del Rio will be defensive coordinator.. and Tressel will be the head coach!I just saw we had Frank Reich on our staff. We should've got him out of retirement for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Just say no to Del Riowhy,just cause he sucks as a coach doesn't mean he don't know defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingAtIrsay Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 1 down.. 2 more to go!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 If we keep this same philosophy next year is there any doubt that Polian needs to be shown the door? That philosophy should have been changed at least 5 years ago.To me it seems like Polians plan is to hold on to power by installing team philosophies so that no coach that has his own ideas would even want to coach the Colts. Basically so he can go about his business unchallenged.I want the Colts to hire a HC that is a strategist and is creative. That kind of coach will have to be listened to when it comes to personnel because he would know who would fit best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Horseshoe Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR:According to Michael Lombardi (when interviewed on the NFL network), Coyer didn't get along with the Colts because he wanted an aggressive/complex "get after the QB" defense with multiple blitz packages similar to what he developed in Denver but, the Colts wanted to keep a "Cover(Tampa) 2" based defense.He said, there wasn't any particular coach that wanted the "Cover 2" but it was an organizational philosophy; and that Coyer is glad to get out-of-there.He ended stating the obvious: " no coach is going to come in and make a difference, this team has a bunch of personnel issues that will have to be resolved during the off season."If this is true then Polian should be fired. Here we have been trashing Coyer for running vanilla Cover Two when in fact it very well could have been Polian interfering in coaching decisions yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboyslim11 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR:According to Michael Lombardi (when interviewed on the NFL network), Coyer didn't get along with the Colts because he wanted an aggressive/complex "get after the QB" defense with multiple blitz packages similar to what he developed in Denver but, the Colts wanted to keep a "Cover(Tampa) 2" based defense.He said, there wasn't any particular coach that wanted the "Cover 2" but it was an organizational philosophy; and that Coyer is glad to get out-of-there.He ended stating the obvious: " no coach is going to come in and make a difference, this team has a bunch of personnel issues that will have to be resolved during he off season."True. Firing Coyer was a good first step. Next to go should be the rest of the coaching staff. If we are going to a new system and new personnel as Polian said on hks radio show,we need to get rid of this defensive scheme. I hope whoever is the new head coach brings in Steve Spagnuolo (provided he is fired as expected) to be the new DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccolts Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ok I'm sorry but if we're going to talk about whining look no further than Peyton Manning. I love Manning but he whines on the field more than any player ever.So, you're too young to remember Dan Marino then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 To me it seems like Polians plan is to hold on to power by installing team philosophies so that no coach that has his own ideas would even want to coach the Colts. Basically so he can go about his business unchallenged.I want the Colts to hire a HC that is a strategist and is creative. That kind of coach will have to be listened to when it comes to personnel because he would know who would fit best.according to that polian loving colts homer big joe staysniak, bill no likey head strong coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 To me it seems like Polians plan is to hold on to power by installing team philosophies so that no coach that has his own ideas would even want to coach the Colts. Basically so he can go about his business unchallenged.I want the Colts to hire a HC that is a strategist and is creative. That kind of coach will have to be listened to when it comes to personnel because he would know who would fit best. That is exactly why I have wanted Polian gone for a long time now. People were quick to credit Polian for all our winning seasons but I think we're finding out it was way more Manning than Polian. Polian has had like forever to fix the defensive side of the ball but his ego won't let him change his own philosophies that flat out haven't worked. Peyton would have 2 or 3 rings right now if we would have made defensive adjustments long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Its about time!! Now they have to fire Caldwell and were all set.PS. I wanted John Teerlinck to be our DC but whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewholefnshow28 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR:According to Michael Lombardi (when interviewed on the NFL network), Coyer didn't get along with the Colts because he wanted an aggressive/complex "get after the QB" defense with multiple blitz packages similar to what he developed in Denver but, the Colts wanted to keep a "Cover(Tampa) 2" based defense.He said, there wasn't any particular coach that wanted the "Cover 2" but it was an organizational philosophy; and that Coyer is glad to get out-of-there.He ended stating the obvious: " no coach is going to come in and make a difference, this team has a bunch of personnel issues that will have to be resolved during the off season."If this is true, then Polian and Caldwell need to be held more accountable by Irsay. They are the ones who hired Coyer in the first place so they had to know what kind of defensive philosophy he would want to run. If you wanted to keep the Tampa 2 why hire someone with a more aggressive system. You would not hire Wade Phillips and try to make him run a 4-3. If this is true, then our defensive issues really just sit at the feet of Polian and Caldwell. It sounds like they did not even care who coached that side of the ball since we had Manning. This kind of thing goes back to the reports we heard about how fractured our front office and coaching staff has been. If I was Coyer I know I would be ticked if I was not able to run my system or get the guys to run my system and was forced to run a system that I am not an expert in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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