RG3 struggles against Ravens

[The Old Crow]

Was at the game last night , and RG3 looked rough. He was uncomfortable in the pocket, under threw passes, could not outrun pursuit , and was generally ineffective. This was against a Ravens defense that had both it's starting cornerbacks out. Flacco looked great, especially in hooking up six times to Steve Smith. It's all pre season, but the Redskins have to be concerned.

[austriancolt]

I think this season will end the RG3 hype!

[The Old Crow]

Cousins looked much better. I don't think RG 3 is a pocket quarterback, and that's how they are playing him. One could only hope the ESPN led hype would end one day .

[PrincetonTiger]

Is RGIII's star flaming out?

or

Something Else

[The Old Crow]

Is RGIII's star flaming out?

or

Something Else

The Redskins also stink, which doesn't help. Bad ownership is a big something else.

[oldunclemark]

Was at the game last night , and RG3 looked rough. He was uncomfortable in the pocket, under threw passes, could not outrun pursuit , and was generally ineffective. This was against a Ravens defense that had both it's starting cornerbacks out. Flacco looked great, especially in hooking up six times to Steve Smith. It's all pre season, but the Redskins have to be concerned.

Its a little sad, although its hard to feel sorry for Robert..

..but he's just not comfortable in the pocket...great arm..fine recivers but he's one of those 'make something happen with his legs' guys and they all struggle

[Everyone]

Was at the game last night , and RG3 looked rough. He was uncomfortable in the pocket, under threw passes, could not outrun pursuit , and was generally ineffective. This was against a Ravens defense that had both it's starting cornerbacks out. Flacco looked great, especially in hooking up six times to Steve Smith. It's all pre season, but the Redskins have to be concerned.

Luck looked rough as well.

[The Old Crow]

I like RG3. I met the guy, and trust me, he is one of the nicest guys around. The offense Gruden had put forth, doesn't seem to fit him.

I would be worried less about Luck, as he is a classic pocket quarterback. The key for RG 3 and Kaepernick, is adjusting to being a pocket quarterback not as reliant on your legs.

[pacolts56]

Cousins looked much better. I don't think RG 3 is a pocket quarterback, and that's how they are playing him. One could only hope the ESPN led hype would end one day .

What??!!

 

This is clearly the result of Daniel Snyder's unwillingness to change the Redskins name.

 

It can't possibly be due to shortcomings of Robert Griffin the 3rd....can it?

[The Old Crow]

What??!!

This is clearly the result of Daniel Snyder's unwillingness to change the Redskins name.

It can't possibly be due to shortcomings of Robert Griffin the 3rd....can it?[/

I find the Redskins flap amusing mainly because Dan Synder is a goofball , not even counting all the Redskins PC stuff.

[Nobody]

He has plenty of technical flaws that people overlooked for 2 full years just because he was exciting to watch. It's Vick all over again. He is inaccurate, makes bad decisions, and has awful pocket presence. On top of not being a good QB he isn't a leader and is a me first kind of guy who doesn't have his locker room.

Harsh I know but those are his flaws and always have been, I've said this since he was at Baylor.

[Qwiz]

He'll be alright. Maybe the offense is working out some kinks, they just started running it after all.

[Blue Horseshoe]

Luck looked rough as well.

 

That's being generous. ;)  There is still two weeks of practice left until the opener so maybe several of the quarterbacks who have struggled will be better by then.  I think a lot of the problem is timing.

[pacolts56]

I find the Redskins flap amusing mainly because Dan Synder is a goofball , not even counting all the Redskins PC stuff.

Without question...Snyder is a huge part of the problem.

 

In addition to the many "golden parachute" contracts he gave washed up free agents over the years....it was fairly predictable that the Mike Shanahan hiring would end badly, considering the megalomaniac that Shanahan is said to be.

 

But it's a tough spot for RGIII having to strike the balance between having the confidence and leadership expected of a starting QB, and at the same time managing the ridiculous hype surrounding him since before draft day 2012....which damn near had fans anticipating trumpet sounds from heaven and prophesies from the streets of Jerusalem as Roger Goodell announced his name.

 

All of it after Griffin played out of a nearly crayon-drawn Baylor offensive playbook that did little for his growth as an NFL passer.

 

I don't dislike RGIII or enjoy watching him struggle....but I did think he'd be a very high injury risk and probably fail to meet those lofty expectations in the NFL. And with Cousins showing some pretty solid play....it could very well be a make or break year for Griffin, given the ransom they paid to draft him.

 

Daniel Snyder certainly isn't known for his patience.

[ColtsBTM12]

The Redskins still have an opportunity to do something in that division. RG3 has a ton of good weapons this year.

[Qwiz]

The Redskins still have an opportunity to do something in that division. RG3 has a ton of good weapons this year.

Yep. It's between them and the Eagles this year.

[ColtsBTM12]

Yep. It's between them and the Eagles this year.

It'll probably be the Eagles, but the Redskins could make some noise if the Jay Gruden thing works out. They will only go as far as RG3 will take them though.

[Qwiz]

It'll probably be the Eagles, but the Redskins could make some noise if the Jay Gruden thing works out. They will only go as far as RG3 will take them though.

Yeah the Eagles offense should be scary good. The Redskins offense should be good too and as long as Griffin holds up I think they can be the ones to dethrone Philly.

[The Old Crow]

I really don't think the Redskins have a chance against the Eagles in that division. Just my opinion, though.

[amfootball]

I have not been a fan of the Gruden signing at all. I think RG may continue to regress. As bad as Shanny and his brother were, they developed a very good offense around RG. I don't have faith that Gruden can do the same. I guess time will tell.

[oldunclemark]

I like RG3. I met the guy, and trust me, he is one of the nicest guys around. The offense Gruden had put forth, doesn't seem to fit him.

OK but Shanahan's offense didn't fit him...Gruden's offense didn't fit him....

He's comfortable making plays on the fly....and the NFL is a 'No Fly' zone for QBs

[21isSuperman]

He has plenty of technical flaws that people overlooked for 2 full years just because he was exciting to watch. It's Vick all over again. He is inaccurate, makes bad decisions, and has awful pocket presence. On top of not being a good QB he isn't a leader and is a me first kind of guy who doesn't have his locker room.

Harsh I know but those are his flaws and always have been, I've said this since he was at Baylor.

This is the truth right here

[oldunclemark]

He has plenty of technical flaws that people overlooked for 2 full years just because he was exciting to watch. It's Vick all over again. He is inaccurate, makes bad decisions, and has awful pocket presence. On top of not being a good QB he isn't a leader and is a me first kind of guy who doesn't have his locker room.

Harsh I know but those are his flaws and always have been, I've said this since he was at Baylor.

Please forward this email to Skip Bayless

[Colts_Fan12]

Heard Joe Theisman is questioning weather RG3 should be the starter over Cousins I've always liked Cousins if he don't take the Washington job I really hope he can land on another team he could start on a few teams right now IMO

[Colts_Fan12]

He has plenty of technical flaws that people overlooked for 2 full years just because he was exciting to watch. It's Vick all over again. He is inaccurate, makes bad decisions, and has awful pocket presence. On top of not being a good QB he isn't a leader and is a me first kind of guy who doesn't have his locker room.

Harsh I know but those are his flaws and always have been, I've said this since he was at Baylor.

All of the same flaws Johhny Manziel has he is gonna be a repeat of RG3 but how dare you say anything about those 2 they are darlings to everyone

[Superman]

He has plenty of technical flaws that people overlooked for 2 full years just because he was exciting to watch. It's Vick all over again. He is inaccurate, makes bad decisions, and has awful pocket presence. On top of not being a good QB he isn't a leader and is a me first kind of guy who doesn't have his locker room.

Harsh I know but those are his flaws and always have been, I've said this since he was at Baylor.

 

I think his accuracy is much better at this point in his career than Vick's was, but the other issues are similar. So far, Griffin has been limited to a one-read, half-field QB, and good defenses thrive on that.

[The Old Crow]

I can't really disagree with anything you guys have said. You have bad ownership, a questionable coaching hire, a scrambling style quarterback in a league where you need to stay in the pocket. I also like Cousins. If you have a team that needs a quarterback and can get him for a second or third, it could be a good pick up. Like I said Robert is a nice guy, but as a QB he has to work out the flaws.

[Colts_Fan12]

I can't really disagree with anything you guys have said. You have bad ownership, a questionable coaching hire, a scrambling style quarterback in a league where you need to stay in the pocket. I also like Cousins. If you have a team that needs a quarterback and can get him for a second or third, it could be a good pick up. Like I said Robert is a nice guy, but as a QB he has to work out the flaws.

I thought the browns should have traded for him

[The Old Crow]

I thought the browns should have traded for him

Would have been a good idea. Then they would have had their # 1 and Buffalo's next year, after giving up a 2 or three. The Browns have a decent defense. Instead, they went with emotion, and got a three ring circus.

[House]

At the pace Griffin is going, I see his career as more similar to Vince Young, then Vick.

[BpG]

Very unimpressive showing again. 

[lollygagger8]

Prediction: 

 

[TKnight24]

Its a little sad, although its hard to feel sorry for Robert..

..but he's just not comfortable in the pocket...great arm..fine recivers but he's one of those 'make something happen with his legs' guys and they all struggle

Cam Newton seems to be doing just fine with his pocket passing

Teddy Bridgewater too (From what little we've seen)

Griffin is in his own category

[BpG]

Cam Newton seems to be doing just fine with his pocket passing

Teddy Bridgewater too (From what little we've seen)

Griffin is in his own category

 

 

Bridgewater was never, ever a "make something happen with your legs" QB. 

[Colts_Fan12]

Bridgewater was never, ever a "make something happen with your legs" QB.

Yeah and your team SHOULD have drafted him i respect you fans if I was you guys I'd freaking riot after the stupid crap they pull year after year

[BpG]

Yeah and your team SHOULD have drafted him i respect you fans if I was you guys I'd freaking riot after the stupid crap they pull year after year

 

 

I don't disagree, I wanedt Bridgewater. I am on record on this board as saying I would have taken him at #4 overall. I wanted him or Manziel. Bridgewater would be a starter right now, but Manziel does have more "upside" and the draft is one big "upside" hype machine.

 

We'll see in the next three years.

[Colts_Fan12]

I don't disagree, I wanedt Bridgewater. I am on record on this board as saying I would have taken him at #4 overall. I wanted him or Manziel. Bridgewater would be a starter right now, but Manziel does have more "upside" and the draft is one big "upside" hype machine.

We'll see in the next three years.

I think you guys got suckered into RG3 #2 I do remember you wanting teddy and I don't blame you

[BpG]

I think you guys got suckered into RG3 #2 I do remember you wanting teddy and I don't blame you

 

 

I wouldn't say suckered. We didn't spend 3 first round picks on him. We had two first round picks in this draft and I think he is going to be good still. He is drowning in the playbook at the moment but he showed marked improvement last week. 

[Superman]

Watching the Seahawks/Bears game out of the corner of my eye now, but I keep seeing Russell Wilson scramble without getting hit. A TD, a run for a first and out of bounds, etc.... There's nothing wrong with a QB who runs and scrambles, but there's a smart way to do it, and a not so smart way to do it. 

[amfootball]

Watching the Seahawks/Bears game out of the corner of my eye now, but I keep seeing Russell Wilson scramble without getting hit. A TD, a run for a first and out of bounds, etc.... There's nothing wrong with a QB who runs and scrambles, but there's a smart way to do it, and a not so smart way to do it. 

I am a big fan of Wilson. Just love his game and how heady he is.