mightisright Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 So I just heard Clayton talking on JMZ about how Andy Reid may have overstayed his welcome in Philly. Would we want him as a replacement for Caldwell? I don't really know much about him. My sister who lives outside of Philly LOVES him. But I don't really follow the Eagles. Is he a good decision maker? And would he be willing to come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number28 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 no, give us Bill Cowher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightisright Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 no, give us Bill CowherCower wouldln't come work with Polian.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number28 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Cower wouldln't come work with Polian..ok Nostradamus, whatever you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejoe8 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Reid would be good for a team looking to totally rebuild maybe, but that's it. He is not a great decision maker, is bad with clock management, bad with challenges, and if given total control over the roster, will neglect certain positions. It can be WRs for a few years, or a fullback another year, or having a punt returner one year, or finding linebackers forever. I've said many times, that Reid's strengths are a big reason why the team had the success they did have the last 12 years, but his weaknesses are a big reason why they never achieved the ultimate success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCH Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Rather have Gruden or Cowher..but it'd be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSO Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Gruden would be my #1 choice then Cowher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Can Andy Reid bring Michael Vick with him?.......next week??? :eagles: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Q Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Can Andy Reid bring Michael Vick with him?.......next week??? :eagles:For what reason would we want Vick and his coach????? rotfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyTrav Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) As an O Cord. yes.Coaching in Phillys gotta be hard, so I imagine coming to an Indy market would help Reid, but frankly Im just not a large fan of his brand of ball outside the WCO. As a poster mentioned before he's a pretty darn good coach, but for the same reasons hes good, he's bad. With him as an O cord however, we could bring in a real strong def minded HC, which I feel would be the best of both worlds.With all that being said, its not happenin. Edited October 10, 2011 by IndyTrav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 No, we already have an * coach. reid is the most overrated coach quite possibly in NFL history.The man has NO idea how to make adjustments. When something isn't working, he just keeps doing it like somehow it's magically going to start working at some point in time, and when it doesn't the eagles lose in embarrassing fashion. How is that a step up from what we already have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejoe8 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 No, we already have an * coach. reid is the most overrated coach quite possibly in NFL history.The man has NO idea how to make adjustments. When something isn't working, he just keeps doing it like somehow it's magically going to start working at some point in time, and when it doesn't the eagles lose in embarrassing fashion.How is that a step up from what we already have?Pretty much sums it up. Like someone on our board says, if something doesn't work, Reid will keep doing it until it doesn't work some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Can Andy Reid bring Michael Vick with him?.......next week??? :eagles:You have just confirmed what I already suspected. Your crazy!!! Vick sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Can Andy Reid bring Michael Vick with him?.......next week??? :eagles:I utterly detest Michael Vick. If he played for the Colts I couldn't root for them. The only "Colts" effort I would expend would be in incessantly complaining to Irsay and the front office.And that's just on the basis of his being a sociopath. I don't like him as a football player either. THE most over-rated excuse for a running back attempting to run an offense that I have ever seen in my life. Painter can read a defense better NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I utterly detest Michael Vick. If he played for the Colts I couldn't root for them. The only "Colts" effort I would expend would be in incessantly complaining to Irsay and the front office.And that's just on the basis of his being a sociopath. I don't like him as a football player either. THE most over-rated excuse for a running back attempting to run an offense that I have ever seen in my life. Painter can read a defense better NOW.We finally agree 100% on something. I don't think he deserves to be in the league and couldn't pull for the Colts with him on the roster either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Thanks for starting this topic, because it's the perfect opportunity to point out to all the Caldwell haters out there that a large percentage of the fans in many (if not most) cities hate their head coach as confidently as you do.I've listened to Philly sports radio several times per week while commuting for more than 10 years. You can't go 10 minutes during football season (perhaps 30 minutes other times of the year) without somebody expressing their utter disgust and displeasure with Reid. Often times it's the HOSTS who say it. In general, THEY HATE HIM and beg for him to be ridden out of town on a rail. And this is a guy who has taken the team to how many NFC title games? It's obviously left some people here with a positive perception of him.Some portion of every fan base always over-reacts, and the grass always seems greener. Unfortunately it rarely is.Personally I wouldn't want Reid because he - much like Belichick - is responsible for all personnel decisions as well as being a coach. And arguably that's his strength, because most of the complaints levied about him are about his game management, and about what he says during press conferences. I'm sure that many don't like the way he looks or what he says on the sidelines either. Sound familiar? The problem is that we already have a great front office, so I wouldn't be in favor of bringing in ANY coach who wants to run the entire show. And nothing I've ever seen from Reid or heard about Reid suggests that he would be an improvement in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 We finally agree 100% on something. I don't think he deserves to be in the league and couldn't pull for the Colts with him on the roster either.you mean the Vick convicted felon who's the all-time NFL leading QB rusher..THAT Michael Vick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 meh, he can't do anything even with the best teams. I would rather have him over Caldwell, but it's too late to switch now. Would rather have Gruden or Cowher... or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 We finally agree 100% on something. I don't think he deserves to be in the league and couldn't pull for the Colts with him on the roster either.I'm genuinely happy to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 no, give us Bill Cowheronly if he could bring dick lebeau with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I'd rather have Gruden, but honestly I'd take anyone over Caldwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douzer Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I'd vote NO! The Colts need a better defense. Any coaching change should be toward a coach in that discipline. Peyton has carved that Eagle defense up like a Thanksgiving turkey. Andy does not have what the Colts need.I Love Gruden and think highly of Cowher, but I think Jeff Fisher has the kind of defensive cred required and should make any short list. I believe he could reconstruct the defense more quickly, utilizing much of the existing personnel. He also knows all too well what Peyton can do on his side of the ball and would be reluctant to change much.10 years from now, most, if not all the current coaches will be retired and a whole new group will have the reins. What young D-Coordinators will rule the game, is the question? So, IMHO, that's where they should be looking if they're not looking at Fisher, Cowher or Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts20593 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 LOL really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joo 2h Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 they would not want to pay him the kind of money he wants anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk4 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightisright Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Thanks for starting this topic, because it's the perfect opportunity to point out to all the Caldwell haters out there that a large percentage of the fans in many (if not most) cities hate their head coach as confidently as you do.I've listened to Philly sports radio several times per week while commuting for more than 10 years. You can't go 10 minutes during football season (perhaps 30 minutes other times of the year) without somebody expressing their utter disgust and displeasure with Reid. Often times it's the HOSTS who say it. In general, THEY HATE HIM and beg for him to be ridden out of town on a rail. And this is a guy who has taken the team to how many NFC title games? It's obviously left some people here with a positive perception of him.Some portion of every fan base always over-reacts, and the grass always seems greener. Unfortunately it rarely is.Personally I wouldn't want Reid because he - much like Belichick - is responsible for all personnel decisions as well as being a coach. And arguably that's his strength, because most of the complaints levied about him are about his game management, and about what he says during press conferences. I'm sure that many don't like the way he looks or what he says on the sidelines either. Sound familiar? The problem is that we already have a great front office, so I wouldn't be in favor of bringing in ANY coach who wants to run the entire show. And nothing I've ever seen from Reid or heard about Reid suggests that he would be an improvement in any way shape or form.I don't hate Coach Caldwell. I just don't think he's a great coach. I thought Dungy was a great coach. I'm not so sure about Caldwell. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now it seems he makes questionable game time decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I don't hate Coach Caldwell. I just don't think he's a great coach. I thought Dungy was a great coach. I'm not so sure about Caldwell. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now it seems he makes questionable game time decisions.Wasn't referring to you, nor demonstrating animosity to those who do hate him. Just something to think about.I listen to NY sports radio even more than Philly, and people hated Coughlin for a long time. He got a lot of leeway after the Super Bowl win, but there are many who still don't like him. Rex Ryan seems comparatively loved. There is something about his personality. Of course there is nothing like a losing streak to change peoples opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 So I just heard Clayton talking on JMZ about how Andy Reid may have overstayed his welcome in Philly. Would we want him as a replacement for Caldwell? I don't really know much about him. My sister who lives outside of Philly LOVES him. But I don't really follow the Eagles. Is he a good decision maker? And would he be willing to come here?So I just heard Clayton talking on JMZ about how Andy Reid may have overstayed his welcome in Philly. Would we want him as a replacement for Caldwell? I don't really know much about him. My sister who lives outside of Philly LOVES him. But I don't really follow the Eagles. Is he a good decision maker? And would he be willing to come here?Has this Colt "way of thinking" outstayed itself? I think so. Change is good sometimes ... and needed. But as long as the Polians are here there is no way the Colts land a "Alpha" coach. Andy R and Manning would be..... very nice. He has won a lot of football games in a lot tougher division than Indy plays in.yes I would welcome ANY change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Wasn't referring to you, nor demonstrating animosity to those who do hate him. Just something to think about.I listen to NY sports radio even more than Philly, and people hated Coughlin for a long time. He got a lot of leeway after the Super Bowl win, but there are many who still don't like him. Rex Ryan seems comparatively loved. There is something about his personality. Of course there is nothing like a losing streak to change peoples opinions.Tom C and Rex teach tough hard nosed D and running the ball.What does Caldwell preach? the status quo? He is a puppet. We all know it deep down.This has got to change. \NE lost Brady wonPitt loses Ben wins with how many QB'sMiami lost Marino and Mitchell steps in and gets it doneSF loses Montana how many times? Then Young how many times... and they kept winning.... Why? BECAUSE THEY HAD A TEAM AROUND THEM.The talent level here has deteriorated to a putrid level. And I see NO development of young players. And game management? Is horrible.Time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyLady Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Can Andy Reid bring Michael Vick with him?.......next week??? :eagles:Vick is fun to watch. He is one heck of an athlete, but Painter is a better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I would like to have Gruden. He is a good coach, and you know how much fun he would have coaching "The Sheriff." rotfl That nickname cracks me up everytime. I love that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I'd like Gruden simply because I think he'd go as far out of his way as he could to make our offense the best of all time. I think he'd let someone else handle 90% of the defensive stuff so he could focus on making our offense what he knows it could be. Depending on who he brought in to handle the D, Gruden has the potential to be a real hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND3RDOGG Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I wouldn't want him. He just doesn't seem like his style and ours should mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachris Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Why would anyone want Gruden? Cowher and Fisher would be the top two and Reid is better than Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04DarkShadowGT Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 No, we already have an * coach. reid is the most overrated coach quite possibly in NFL history.The man has NO idea how to make adjustments. When something isn't working, he just keeps doing it like somehow it's magically going to start working at some point in time, and when it doesn't the eagles lose in embarrassing fashion.How is that a step up from what we already have?Bad coaches dont make it to 5 conference title games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum88 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Why would anyone want Gruden? Cowher and Fisher would be the top two and Reid is better than Gruden.Totally agree. Gruden is right where he belongs, in the broadcast booth. He took a super bowl winning team and destroyed it in two years because his players hated him and couldn't get out of town fast enough when they had the chance.As far as Philly fans hating Andy Reid, Philly fans tend to hate everyone. I grew up there and was an Eagles and Colts fan growing up, but could never understand the hatred those people have towards everyone. It does not matter whether you are good or horrible, they hate you if you are on the field. I remember when Mike Schmidt, one of the greatest third basemen to ever play baseball would walk onto the field, they booed him constantly. Absolutely no class whatsoever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystrymaster Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 NO NO NO NO NOI am not a fan of Andy's at all, I think he is highly over rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejoe8 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Bad coaches dont make it to 5 conference title games.Reid is not a bad coach, but he is overrated. 5 NFC title games, 4 lost, 3 as a favorite, and 2 at home. He has his strengths, but his stubbornness will always be his downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Heck NO, his whacked out kids aside, he can hang out and lose in philly, keep him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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