NewEra Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 For me it would be a stud LT so we can move castanzo to RT. have Shipley start, plug in best available for g's.I take a look at the wr from kc, having a brain fart right nowStud SS and #2 CB. Move Mathis to freeneys spot, Hughes to mathis's. maybe a stud NT. but I think chapman, McKinney, MTV will be decent. I'd resign moala also, he was coming on strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 O-LINEO-Line Offensive LineBlockers on OffenseOh and O-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Our middle looks better with Shipley in for sure. I don't mind reitz or mcglynn they just can't stay healthy. I'm more worried about the edge. I think we get that right and have Shipley start it would be a big start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemack Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Interior line on both sides and secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manning04 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 a LT, LG, RG CB, SS. Address the OL in FA one CB in FA, G in draft and another CB in draft. Add a little more depth at WR lets not forget the people coming off IR/PS (Whalen, Adams) ETC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltfaninnewyork Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 o-LINE,CB,S,DE,WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Our middle looks better with Shipley in for sure. I don't mind reitz or mcglynn they just can't stay healthy. I'm more worried about the edge. I think we get that right and have Shipley start it would be a big start The guards have been horrible for the most part...especially in pass pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 The guards have been horrible for the most part...especially in pass proNot denying that. They have looked better with Shipley. I think they looked horrible more so cause they were mostly the back ups always playing in there. If we can improve without breaking the bank I'm all for it. I just think our edges were more of a concern. And Ballard needs to work on his blocking this off season. If brown can improve I have no doubt Ballard can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMcAfeeFan Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 O-LineSSCBO-Line some moreDepending on what they do with Carter and Brown I say another RB. No more Moore please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhawk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 o-LINE,CB,S,DE,WR I agree. May move WR ahead of DE though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfive Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Two(good) guards for the O line(free agents). One(cover) corner, because I believe we have something in Vontae Davis. A stud linebacker. The Colts will shine next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Not denying that. They have looked better with Shipley. I think they looked horrible more so cause they were mostly the back ups always playing in there. If we can improve without breaking the bank I'm all for it. I just think our edges were more of a concern. And Ballard needs to work on his blocking this off season. If brown can improve I have no doubt Ballard can I agree with Shipley, but I thought every guard on the roster looked poor..starter or not. But yeah, I'm not sold on AC at left tackle either...he's still young though. If AC can't play LT I def think he can play RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superrep1967 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Not denying that. They have looked better with Shipley. I think they looked horrible more so cause they were mostly the back ups always playing in there. If we can improve without breaking the bank I'm all for it. I just think our edges were more of a concern. And Ballard needs to work on his blocking this off season. If brown can improve I have no doubt Ballard canWe definitely need another CB to replace Vaugn he sucked today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynjin Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 O-LINEO-LineOffensive LineBlockers on OffenseOh and O-Line.Don't forget o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 I agree with Shipley, but I thought every guard on the roster looked poor..starter or not. But yeah, I'm not sold on AC at left tackle either...he's still young though. If AC can't play LT I def think he can play RT.Totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynjin Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 O-line help as stated before. More help for the d-line, maybe a big NT. Another cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I want to say offensive line, but fixing the defense isn't far off. It might even be ahead of the offensive line. You look at all of our losses, Hou, New England, Jets, Jaguars, Chicago, Baltimore How many of those losses was truly due to the Offensive line? Can you really point to the OL and say "That is the main reason for the loss"? Defense got gashed in the second half of the Houston game, gashed and burned against Chicago, burned against New England, Gashed against the Jets, and burned at times, Burned on the last play of the game against the Jaguars and gave up 100 plus yards to Jones Drew, Gashed and Burned today against the Ravens. If we had a decent to very good defense this season, even with the O Line problems do you think we would have lost 6 games? I don't think we would have at all. I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything about the O line, but the defense to me is almost hands down the higher priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 I really think we're a few pieces away from our D being very dominant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 O-Line was the major reason the colts didn't win this game today. Luck is the most hit QB in football, that just is not good enough for a playoff team. Someone said they are all for upgrading the O-Line as long as it doesn't break the bank, I would argue that Grigson do whatever he needs to do to ensure we have an elite O-Line in place for next season, as it is a far more important component in this offensive scheme than in most others. Luck needs time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 OG, SS, CB, DE, WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I want to say offensive line, but fixing the defense isn't far off. It might even be ahead of the offensive line.You look at all of our losses, Hou, New England, Jets, Jaguars, Chicago, BaltimoreHow many of those losses was truly due to the Offensive line? Can you really point to the OL and say "That is the main reason for the loss"? Defense got gashed in the second half of the Houston game, gashed and burned against Chicago, burned against New England, Gashed against the Jets, and burned at times, Burned on the last play of the game against the Jaguars and gave up 100 plus yards to Jones Drew, Gashed and Burned today against the Ravens.If we had a decent to very good defense this season, even with the O Line problems do you think we would have lost 6 games?I don't think we would have at all. I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything about the O line, but the defense to me is almost hands down the higher priority. That's cause they need to protect the franchise QB. Fixing the defense will just take a tad longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I want to say offensive line, but fixing the defense isn't far off. It might even be ahead of the offensive line.You look at all of our losses, Hou, New England, Jets, Jaguars, Chicago, BaltimoreHow many of those losses was truly due to the Offensive line? Can you really point to the OL and say "That is the main reason for the loss"? Defense got gashed in the second half of the Houston game, gashed and burned against Chicago, burned against New England, Gashed against the Jets, and burned at times, Burned on the last play of the game against the Jaguars and gave up 100 plus yards to Jones Drew, Gashed and Burned today against the Ravens.If we had a decent to very good defense this season, even with the O Line problems do you think we would have lost 6 games?I don't think we would have at all. I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything about the O line, but the defense to me is almost hands down the higher priority.Couldn't agree less, this defense has been serviceable they don't actually concede that many points. We don't put up big scores ever, and I place that on the shoulders of constant horrific o-line play. That said I would love to see another corner in, and a SS, otherwise I'm okay with the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 What did the O line have to do with Vaughn getting burned all over the field? What did the O line have to do with Butler getting burned in the end zone? What did the O line have to do with Ray Rice, and Pierce gashing us on run plays? What did the O line have to do with Ray Rice running for a 40 plus yard screen play on us? Defense, Defense, Defense is our main priority people! I think it is higher than the O line. I say we win that game with a decent to very good defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 What did the O line have to do with Vaughn getting burned all over the field? What did the O line have to do with Butler getting burned in the end zone? What did the O line have to do with Ray Rice, and Pierce gashing us on run plays? What did the O line have to do with Ray Rice running for a 40 plus yard screen play on us? Defense, Defense, Defense is our main priority people! I think it is higher than the O line. I say we win that game with a decent to very good defense. I guess if u wanna see Luck crippled by yr 3. And butler didn't get burned...he played it well, boldin just made a hell of a grab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Couldn't agree less, this defense has been serviceable they don't actually concede that many points. We don't put up big scores ever, and I place that on the shoulders of constant horrific o-line play. That said I would love to see another corner in, and a SS, otherwise I'm okay with the defense. Were they serviceable today, or in any of the losses we had this year? It's easy to say serviceable when you are playing lower tier teams, or good teams with Offensive problems like the Texans. When it came to playoff caliber teams, our defense was the main issue for the loss. The bad offensive line did not keep us from moving the ball or scoring in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I guess if u wanna see Luck crippled by yr 3. And butler didn't get burned...he played it well, boldin just made a hell of a grab Do we need spend all, or even the bulk of our draft picks on O line to keep Luck from being crippled? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWF Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 BPA...outside of QB obviously. This team is full of holes. but if we had a chance at multiple positions of equal talent... 1.) OG - Our interior is the worst in the NFL in pass protection IMO. 2.) RT - Justice is inconsistent and we have no one behind him. 3.) OLB - Freeney simply doesnt fit this defense. He is still horrible against the run and doesnt get the pressure he used to. 4.) CB - Davis has started to come on lately but we really dont have anyone really worth mentioning after that. Vaughn doesnt belong on the field and Butler just doesnt strike me as a true #2 in this league. 5.) NT - Johnson is a decent backup but not a starter IMO. Chapman might be good but we simply dont know. 6.) S - Zibs isnt very good and Joe is a backup. 7.) WR - Just not a fan of Avery personally. He has inconsistent hands and is generally a soft player. I love Hilton for the future but we dont have alot behind Hilton and Wayne and Wayne is getting up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I guess if u wanna see Luck crippled by yr 3. And butler didn't get burned...he played it well, boldin just made a hell of a grab So where did those touchdowns come from today? I didn't say we didn't need to fix the O line, but I think the defense is a higher priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Do we need spend all, or even the bulk of our draft picks on O line to keep Luck from being crippled? No We were talking about priority...and protecting a young franchise QB is priority #1 for obvious reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts00 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JWF" data-cid="382082"><p>BPA...outside of QB obviously.<br /><br />This team is full of holes.<br /><br />but if we had a chance at multiple positions of equal talent...<br /><br />1.) OG - Our interior is the worst in the NFL in pass protection IMO.<br />2.) RT - Justice is inconsistent and we have no one behind him.<br />3.) OLB - Freeney simply doesnt fit this defense. He is still horrible against the run and doesnt get the pressure he used to.<br />4.) CB - Davis has started to come on lately but we really dont have anyone really worth mentioning after that. Vaughn doesnt belong on the field and Butler just doesnt strike me as a true #2 in this league.<br />5.) NT - Johnson is a decent backup but not a starter IMO. Chapman might be good but we simply dont know.<br />6.) S - Zibs isnt very good and Joe is a backup.<br />7.) WR - Just not a fan of Avery personally. He has inconsistent hands and is generally a soft player. I love Hilton for the future but we dont have alot behind Hilton and Wayne and Wayne is getting up there.</p></blockquote><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JWF" data-cid="382082"><p>BPA...outside of QB obviously.<br /><br />This team is full of holes.<br /><br />but if we had a chance at multiple positions of equal talent...<br /><br />1.) OG - Our interior is the worst in the NFL in pass protection IMO.<br />2.) RT - Justice is inconsistent and we have no one behind him.<br />3.) OLB - Freeney simply doesnt fit this defense. He is still horrible against the run and doesnt get the pressure he used to.<br />4.) CB - Davis has started to come on lately but we really dont have anyone really worth mentioning after that. Vaughn doesnt belong on the field and Butler just doesnt strike me as a true #2 in this league.<br />5.) NT - Johnson is a decent backup but not a starter IMO. Chapman might be good but we simply dont know.<br />6.) S - Zibs isnt very good and Joe is a backup.<br />7.) WR - Just not a fan of Avery personally. He has inconsistent hands and is generally a soft player. I love Hilton for the future but we dont have alot behind Hilton and Wayne and Wayne is getting up there.</p></blockquote>Totally Agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Offensive line & a CB to go along with Vontae... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 O-line: a tackle and guards. Shipley's done well if there are no better centers available. Defense: Safety and a CB, DT and DE. If Freeney jets, we'll need another LB. Another RB wouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 For me it would be a stud LT so we can move castanzo to RT. have Shipley start, plug in best available for g's.I take a look at the wr from kc, having a brain fart right nowStud SS and #2 CB. Move Mathis to freeneys spot, Hughes to mathis's. maybe a stud NT. but I think chapman, McKinney, MTV will be decent. I'd resign moala also, he was coming on strong.I think we are fine at LT, just need OGs to help Luck be able to step up in the pocket. I wouldnt mind both our starting OGs getting replaced. Reitz can be kept for depth at OG/RT. We do need another starter opposite Davis at CB. Someone with size. Xavier Rhodes comes to mind. Vaughn and Butler can be kept for depth and playing the nickel. We do need another pass rushing OLB. Paul Kruger or Anthony Spencer would help. And adding another veteran NT wouldnt hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM_Colt Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 2 OL of some sort.. #2 CB(would love Rodgers-Cromartie in FA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 1 Manning Fan Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Besides the obvious improvements to the O line, I wish for a true Nose Tackle that can consistently push back the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 OL... Everywhere.CB to go opposite of Davis.OLB to go opposite of Mathis.WRSSPK Considering our low number of Draft Picks, I'm guessing FA will be very active, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 1 Manning Fan Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think we are fine at LT, just need OGs to help Luck be able to step up in the pocket. I wouldnt mind both our starting OGs getting replaced. Reitz can be kept for depth at OG/RT.We do need another starter opposite Davis at CB. Someone with size. Xavier Rhodes comes to mind. Vaughn and Butler can be kept for depth and playing the nickel. We do need another pass rushing OLB. Paul Kruger or Anthony Spencer would help. And adding another veteran NT wouldnt hurt.I like the way you think, but Rhides could be gone before we pick. CBS has him as the #2 CB in the draft, but you never know what'll happen on draft day. I hope we pounce on him of he's there when we pick. Of course, if there is a stud O lineman there, it would be a tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I want to say offensive line, but fixing the defense isn't far off. It might even be ahead of the offensive line.You look at all of our losses, Hou, New England, Jets, Jaguars, Chicago, BaltimoreHow many of those losses was truly due to the Offensive line? Can you really point to the OL and say "That is the main reason for the loss"? Defense got gashed in the second half of the Houston game, gashed and burned against Chicago, burned against New England, Gashed against the Jets, and burned at times, Burned on the last play of the game against the Jaguars and gave up 100 plus yards to Jones Drew, Gashed and Burned today against the Ravens.If we had a decent to very good defense this season, even with the O Line problems do you think we would have lost 6 games?I don't think we would have at all. I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything about the O line, but the defense to me is almost hands down the higher priority. the o-line is more important because that is protecting the most valuable part of the team. without luck, the colts are cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 1 Manning Fan Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 OL... Everywhere.CB to go opposite of Davis.OLB to go opposite of Mathis.WRSSPKConsidering our low number of Draft Picks, I'm guessing FA will be very active,Is Vinatieri's contract up? Or are you suggesting we cut him and find a replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWF Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Just a note to people not mentioning OLB....this team is still bad against the run and the outside run has been our Achilles for the most part. The Texans in the first matchup, the Chiefs and the Ravens today are some of the games worth citing as recent examples of our horrendous defense against runs to the edge. One part of this to me has been injuries and a lack of talent at NT and DE but the big problem ive seen has been our OLBs not setting the edge well or overrunning their contain. I will always be grateful for what Freeney has meant to this team but he just doesnt fit this defense. He hasnt been able to get effective pressure when standing up and he has always been a below average run defender. Its time to move on. Mathis has been good as expected but we just dont have any viable OLBs behind him. Hughes has been better but doesnt belong as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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