Donald Brown rules the world

[oldunclemark]

Not quite but he carried on the first 6 plays of overtime////

You can make an arguement that he won the game Sunday ..but I wont..

I want to ask people who have had minor knee surgery (I never have)

What kind of minor (I'm assuning arthroscopic) knee surgery can you have that can allow you to run that hard in less than 3 weeks?

Unless I misunderstood, they said he did have surgery....on Oct 8 or 9 and played on the 27th taking hits on the same knee.

I dont need a doctor to answer this. I just need someone who can play one on a mesasge board.

[Kyle]

i think he just had his knee scoped. i think it was more of a procedure than surgery.

[oldunclemark]

i think he just had his knee scoped. i think it was more of a procedure than surgery.

Describe 'scoped'

they said he had some minor liganemt damage

[Golfr]

I believe I read they stuck needles in his knee rather then cutting open the knee and stuff inside.

I am a VB fan and think he is the better back but gotta give DB credit on that last drive..........

[Indyfan4life]

Getting a knee scope is nothing serious. Usually just causes some soreness which is why we sat out. If it were a meniscus tear or something, he'd be out a couple of more weeks.

[oldunclemark]

I believe I read they stuck needles in his knee rather then cutting open the knee and stuff inside.

I am a VB fan and think he is the better back but gotta give DB credit on that last drive..........

I have to say I like both of them..different backs.....ballard is more physical more 'downhill' ..Brown has more speed and picks his holes better

[oldunclemark]

Getting a knee scope is nothing serious. Usually just causes some soreness which is why we sat out. If it were a meniscus tear or something, he'd be out a couple of more weeks.

..but describe 'scoped' I've never had knee surgery

[Mouthfire]

..but describe 'scoped' I've never had knee surgery

They stuck a little fiber optic video camera through a small incision into his knee.

[ericnan]

OUM,

I'm no knee specialist, but I do work for a company that manufactures medical devices for installing knee implants(as well as some other implants). I believe when a "scope" is done(orthroscopic surgery), a small incision is made and the device is inserted and guided to the area of the problem. It is usually to remove "scar tissue" from the area in question. The scar tissue will irritate and cause pain because of the "low blood flow" area. So the "scope" helps your body remove the scar tissue more quickly. Then the healing is nothing more than a minor incision, which heals rather quickly. I'm no doctor, and this is how I understand it. I could be VERY wrong, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

[Golfr]

I have to say I like both of them..different backs.....ballard is more physical more 'downhill' ..Brown has more speed and picks his holes better

Not sure how any fan can determine which back picks wholes better without a camera mounted on the RB's helmet.

[Brooklyn Colt]

Ballard and Brown are Addai/Rhodes 2.0

[oldunclemark]

Not sure how any fan can determine which back picks wholes better without a camera mounted on the RB's helmet.

Golf..Ballard runs into the defender...he's more of a collison runner...he's looking for contact. Brown isnt.

You know..some backs runs over you or through you..Brown waits (sometimes to his fault) and picks the hole..

He made a great 3-yar run where he just stepped awya from the blitzer..hesitated and got the gain

..tape the game and watch it again...you can see it...

Its good for us to have all 3..and Carter is more like Ballard only bigger..and stronger

[lollygagger8]

I'm not a doctor, but I'll take a look....

[a06cc]

Brown is a better back than Ballard. Vick is a rookie, but even so no where near Donald. With Brown returning from injury our running game improved in a major way. We need both guys to pound the ball more as the season hit the halfway mark. Delone Carter needs time to shine as well.

[oldunclemark]

OUM,

I'm no knee specialist, but I do work for a company that manufactures medical devices for installing knee implants(as well as some other implants). I believe when a "scope" is done(orthroscopic surgery), a small incision is made and the device is inserted and guided to the area of the problem. It is usually to remove "scar tissue" from the area in question. The scar tissue will irritate and cause pain because of the "low blood flow" area. So the "scope" helps your body remove the scar tissue more quickly. Then the healing is nothing more than a minor incision, which heals rather quickly. I'm no doctor, and this is how I understand it. I could be VERY wrong, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Thanks...eric.......I get what you're saying....Its a cleaning of small amonts of minor damage tissue for purposes of quicker healing....

without the score andf the rest..he would continue to damage the knee by playing and would become increasingly more limited.

..but aftre the 'scope'..and rest.......he isnt any different than he was

...that explains how he can run like that less than 3 weeks later...

eric....You are a doc without the smock....

[bahhummbug]

Not quite but he carried on the first 6 plays of overtime////

You can make an arguement that he won the game Sunday ..but I wont..

I want to ask people who have had minor knee surgery (I never have)

What kind of minor (I'm assuning arthroscopic) knee surgery can you have that can allow you to run that hard in less than 3 weeks?

Unless I misunderstood, they said he did have surgery....on Oct 8 or 9 and played on the 27th taking hits on the same knee.

I dont need a doctor to answer this. I just need someone who can play one on a mesasge board.

MY son had meniscus knee surgery was running crosscountry in 3 weeks

[Golfr]

Golf..Ballard runs into the defender...he's more of a collison runner...he's looking for contact. Brown isnt.

You know..some backs runs over you or through you..Brown waits (sometimes to his fault) and picks the hole..

He made a great 3-yar run where he just stepped awya from the blitzer..hesitated and got the gain

..tape the game and watch it again...you can see it...

Its good for us to have all 3..and Carter is more like Ballard only bigger..and stronger

I am not going to argue but VB is not like DC or DB. VB has all the skills an every down back needs and DB and DC do not. DB does not have power, his hands are suspect and he is not a very good blocker. DC needs more time on the field.

[oldunclemark]

I am not going to argue but VB is not like DC or DB. VB has all the skills an every down back needs and DB and DC do not. DB does not have power, his hands are suspect and he is not a very good blocker. DC needs more time on the field.

Brown would not be playing if he wanst a good pass blocker.........and Ballard is learning the protections.

But Ballard can learn what Brown does....and Brown cant be what Ballard is

But Brown has the trump card....he' s never lost a fumble...not one...

You saw how fast they got Ballard out of the game Sunday when he gave up the fumble....and DC has had multiple fumble bumbles...

..They are complimentart...I'm glad we have all 3..

I dont know who Moore gets carries, though. Can you help me with that?

[Mouthfire]

I am not going to argue but VB is not like DC or DB. VB has all the skills an every down back needs and DB and DC do not. DB does not have power, his hands are suspect and he is not a very good blocker. DC needs more time on the field.

That is just fan perception. DB actually does a really good job at picking up yards after contact. When hit behind the line of scrimmage, he regularly picks up an extra +2.0 yards or more after contact. When he's not hit in the backfield, he regularly picks up ~4.0 extra yards after contact. He actually does a better job at this than Arian Foster.

His blocking is at least as good as Ballard's, if not better. And apart from those two bone-headed dropped passes that one game, he's been consistent in the receiving game. That botched pass yesterday was overthrown on Luck's part.

[Bleedin Blue]

Ballard is great because he's always pushing hard to make yardage and doesn't take as many yards for loss. Brown is great because if he can get into the secondary he can outrun safeties and some DB's...the guy is flat out fast.

[throwing BBZ]

Ballard sees the holes, Brown often just runs into the lineman not seeing the holes, and goes down when he is touched.

Has ALWAYS gotten his yards running outside or thru BIG holes.

Watching from the sidelines looks to have been good for Donald.

[bobourret]

He looked good

I hope we resign him

[DallasClarkrules]

I like both guys, don't see why people are ragging on DB when he's played really well this year.

VB is our downhill runner, between the tackles. DB is our speed back, and I think at this moment in time, our best back. He's not afraid of contact, but he's way more effective and dangerous when he can get to the second level. He can make those home run plays. I'm not sure VB can, not to say he's not a good player with athleticism... as he proved yesterday.

DC is our goal line back, he's just a hard-nosed runner who'll pick up the hard yards.

Personally, I think DB should be the starter for the foreseeable future, but VB needs to see plenty of the ball. Moore? Seems a frivolous signing at this point, but I guess he's our best receiving/pass blocking back.

[coltsfanatic24]

it seems as if donald brown has some type of speed burst. if he can hit the right holes he could be one of the most complete backs in the nfl.

[Superman]

i think he just had his knee scoped. i think it was more of a procedure than surgery.

..but describe 'scoped' I've never had knee surgery

Most knee surgeries are arthroscopic procedures anymore, including ACL reconstruction, meniscectomy, etc. They only open you up for knee replacement, so far as I understand. I don't know exactly what procedure Brown had, but it was probably a scar tissue removal, which is about the most minor procedure you can have.

The next step up would be a partial menisectomy, which I had a year and a half ago, and the typical recovery period is 4-6 weeks if you're in great shape. Of course, in my case, I'm not anywhere near as fit as a pro running back. On top of that, they also needed to do a chondroplasty, which is a removal of damaged cartilage. So it extended my recovery by about a month. But I was moving strong and lifting weights and running again in 6 weeks, and swelling free and able to move laterally and jump and stuff in another month. And that's not bad.

A lot of people have arthroscopic knee operations that start out minor and turn into more once the surgeon gets in there, because they discover more damaged tissue and start doing more work than anticipated. The MRI doesn't tell you conclusively what you'll find in there. In my case, they didn't anticipate doing the chondroplasty. So it's good that Brown's procedure was as minor as they expected it to be. I didn't expect him to be back so fast, but he was running strong yesterday, moving well in all directions, and finishing. If he holds up during practice this week, it will probably be behind him.

[oldunclemark]

I like both guys, don't see why people are ragging on DB when he's played really well this year.

VB is our downhill runner, between the tackles. DB is our speed back, and I think at this moment in time, our best back. He's not afraid of contact, but he's way more effective and dangerous when he can get to the second level. He can make those home run plays. I'm not sure VB can, not to say he's not a good player with athleticism... as he proved yesterday.

DC is our goal line back, he's just a hard-nosed runner who'll pick up the hard yards.

Personally, I think DB should be the starter for the foreseeable future, but VB needs to see plenty of the ball. Moore? Seems a frivolous signing at this point, but I guess he's our best receiving/pass blocking back.

There seems to be a thoiught that player drafted in the firstgb rond hasb to 'wow' you with big numbers and simply cant be consitent...and unspecatcular..

I love Brown's burst of speed and his ability to hold the ball now matter how hard he gets pounded.

he does what we ask him to do and he rarely fumbles..I've always liked him

[Tark The Shark]

Ballard and Brown are Addai/Rhodes 2.0

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Tark The Shark]

Brown has run pretty good in the past couple weeks he has played.

May not be eye popping numbers but the past 2 weeks, the Colts running game has piled over 300 yards running between all 3 running backs.

Carter should be the goal line, and Brown and Ballard on every other situation.

[oldunclemark]

Running backs get beat up for a living...you can not have too many

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Brown and Ballard are on point don't get me wrong......but lets get the ball in delones hands more. His power and relentless style should get more than just short yardage or goaline situational Touches

[oldunclemark]

Brown and Ballard are on point don't get me wrong......but lets get the ball in delones hands more. His power and relentless style should get more than just short yardage or goaline situational Touches

Cant split time between 3 backs......but backs get hurt......he'll play

[shakedownstreet]

He looked good

I hope we resign him

i concur. we should keep him. we should keep luck too. he is good

[HtownColt]

Brown has another year on his contract also

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Cant split time between 3 backs......but backs get hurt......he'll play

that's true can't split between three but i guess I'm trying to say is 2-3 touches use not good enough

[Gavin]

for those that dont think Brown has power check out the 5 yard run at the 8:46 mark of the 3rd quarter or the 6:30 mark of the 4th quarter (plowing forward for a 4 yard run.

[Jason_]

Cant split time between 3 backs......but backs get hurt......he'll play

And why exactly can you not split time with 3 backs?

[Superman]

And why exactly can you not split time with 3 backs?

Taking Luck's runs out of the mix, we're averaging 24 carries per game. Maybe that's artificially low, with a couple games where we completely abandoned the run game. But that's the number. Splitting those three ways inhibits the ability for any of our backs to get a feel for how to be effective. I'd like to see us have a mix of 16/10/4, or something like that. But those 4 for RB3 (Carter) would probably be situational carries, mostly short yardage.

[Jason_]

Taking Luck's runs out of the mix, we're averaging 24 carries per game. Maybe that's artificially low, with a couple games where we completely abandoned the run game. But that's the number. Splitting those three ways inhibits the ability for any of our backs to get a feel for how to be effective. I'd like to see us have a mix of 16/10/4, or something like that. But those 4 for RB3 (Carter) would probably be situational carries, mostly short yardage.

Personally id like to see it more like 12-15 each for db and vb and 7-10 for dc.

[Warhorse]

They stuck a little fiber optic video camera through a small incision into his knee.

Eeeewwwwwwwwwww...........

[Gavin]

I'd rather Ballard be the 3rd down Back and Brown get most of the carries