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Dear God… Making a lot of assumptions here and working yourself up over nothing. This is Luck’s choice to come back, Irsay is just announcing he’ll be there.    Luck has been back in Lucas Oil

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Most rational people let things go.   Especially things you have no control over.   The fans will embrace him,   as they should.   No one cares you will be ashamed 

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It wouldn't be a Colts forum unless there's an Andrew Luck return post every few months :D

 

Waiting for this to balloon into a debate and prepare my popcorn 🍿 ready.

 

On a positive note, at least those who were waiting for Jim Irsay to make new social media post to confirm that he's indeed healthy, can now be peaceful that Irsay is back healthy and tweeting. 

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Good. I hope he visits some games of the team during the season... maybe get inducted into the Ring of Honor at some point. It's not great look for the franchise for both of their last big time franchise QBs to be so far away from the team post retirement. 

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7 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

One step closer to the ring of honor.   Thanks for sharing

 

2 minutes ago, stitches said:

Good. I hope he visits some games of the team during the season... maybe get inducted into the Ring of Honor at some point. It's not great look for the franchise for both of their last big time franchise QBs to be so far away from the franchise post retirement. 

Barf. This is as close as he should ever get to the ROH. It’s the Ring of HONOR. Not the Ring of Shame.
 

And to avoid yet another long Luck debate where no one’s mind gets changed, I’m gonna leave it there. 

6 hours ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Will he finish the round of golf?

No, he’ll quit on the 17th hole while having the chance to win it all.

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7 hours ago, stitches said:

Good. I hope he visits some games of the team during the season... maybe get inducted into the Ring of Honor at some point. It's not great look for the franchise for both of their last big time franchise QBs to be so far away from the team post retirement. 

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15 hours ago, csmopar said:

 

Barf. This is as close as he should ever get to the ROH. It’s the Ring of HONOR. Not the Ring of Shame.
 

And to avoid yet another long Luck debate where no one’s mind gets changed, I’m gonna leave it there. 

No, he’ll quit on the 17th hole while having the chance to win it all.


Dear God,  for a very smart guy your view of Luck is so embarrassing.   He was here 8 years and you learned nothing about him. 
 

Your blind spot about him is the size of the Grand Canyon.   You haven’t made one or two odd posts about Luck, you’ve been writing posts that defy logic for years now.  Since Luck retired.   
 

You're a smart man, a good poster and have earned great respect for service to your country.   But your comments about Luck are beneath you. 

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15 hours ago, csmopar said:

 

Barf. This is as close as he should ever get to the ROH. It’s the Ring of HONOR. Not the Ring of Shame.
 

And to avoid yet another long Luck debate where no one’s mind gets changed, I’m gonna leave it there. 

No, he’ll quit on the 17th hole while having the chance to win it all.

I was just giving you a hard time for posting this click baity thread. 

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I am sorry this isn’t going to be popular with some but I roll my eyes at the hate Luck gets.  It’s not like he was Peyton Manning and never hurt and just retired out of the blue.  He literally got beat to hell and back and said enough I am done.  Pat McAfee pretty retired early for the exact same reason, he was tired of having his knee cut on and McAfee is one of the most beloved ex-Colts there is.  Yes, I know McAfee didn’t retire in the pre-season right before the season started.  That was bad and even Luck has said that was bad and wished he handled that better.  He can’t go back and undo it though.  At some point you just have to move on and accept it happened and look back at EVERYTHING he did in his career, not just how it ended.

 

To me, and this is just my opinion, I look at those who are still mad about Luck retiring like I do those that still complained about Polian sitting the starters vs the Jets after the Colts lost the Super Bowl and it didn’t matter anymore.  It’s just sour grapes that some just can’t move on from because for whatever reason they felt entitled to the outcome they wanted to happen and felt it was taken away from them unfairly.  
 

Yes I know Luck retiring set the team back and that sucks but it happens.  We are past that point though where his retirement is having an impact on the team.  They have a new franchise QB and that’s where at least my attention is.  So my advice is just let go of the anger and move on.  Life is happier that way.

 

Again, I know this won’t be popular and several won’t see it my way that’s fine.  I am not going to try to change your mind and you aren’t going to change my mind on this so if you disagree with me cool let’s just agree to disagree.  

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1. Was the timing of Andrew Luck's retirement bad? YES.

 

2. By retiring, did he set the franchise back 5 years? YES.

 

Having said those 2 things:

When Andrew Luck played, was he a very good QB, great at times? Yes.

 

Does he belong in the ROH? His stats and wins say YES.

 

Glad he will back in Indianapolis for this event. Chuck thanks the world of Andrew.

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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

1. Was the timing of Andrew Luck's retirement bad? YES.

The timing was horrible. One of the worst times to retire... I still think people use the timing as justification for otherwise horrible way to treat Luck. And I still think no matter when he retired... people would still have felt betrayed and * off about it. 

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

2. By retiring, did he set the franchise back 5 years? YES.

Absolutely. Especially since the GM didn't get the memo initially that we need to go draft our next guy immediately/as quickly as possible. So we were stuck in limbo for a while. 

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Having said those 2 things:

When Andrew Luck played, was he a very good QB, great at times? Yes.

Yep... I'd say he was great pretty much all the time he wasn't playing seriously hurt. 

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Does he belong in the ROH? His stats and wins say YES.

Yep... 

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Glad he will back in Indianapolis for this event. Chuck thanks the world of Andrew.

Chuck has said before that Luck by himself probably prolonged his HC career by a few years... For as much as I crap on him for his coaching, Chuck seems like a great man with no sense of entitlement and overall good perspective on life. I'm glad the Colts continue to support his charity and I'm glad Luck will be back in Indianapolis for it. 

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Dear God,  for a very smart guy your view of Luck is so embarrassing.   He was here 8 years and you learned nothing about him. 
 

Your blind spot about him is the size of the Grand Canyon.   You haven’t made one or two odd posts about Luck, you’ve been writing posts that defy logic for years now.  Since Luck retired.   
 

You're a smart man, a good poster and have earned great respect for service to your country.   But your comments about Luck are beneath you. 

I appreciate the bluntness, both the compliment and the criticism. 
 

Part of my Luck criticism and its harshness is admittedly tied to my tolerance, or lack thereof, of quitters and misleaders. Everyone lies, that’s a fact of human life. But to deceive to the level he did, yeah that’s a character flaw in my mind. And based on the discussion before, you have about half the fan base that feels that way.


The only thing that would make that situation worse, is for Luck to be brought into the RoH(let’s pretend he has the stats and impact to be there for sake of this), brought out to LOS field during the game and hear a crap ton of drunk people booing him… again. That, as much as I dislike Lucks actions in 2019, would not be good for Luck or the Colts. 
 

 

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4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

1. Was the timing of Andrew Luck's retirement bad? YES.

 

2. By retiring, did he set the franchise back 5 years? YES.

 

Having said those 2 things:

When Andrew Luck played, was he a very good QB, great at times? Yes.

 

Does he belong in the ROH? His stats and wins say YES.

 

Glad he will back in Indianapolis for this event. Chuck thanks the world of Andrew.

The timing, honestly, it doesn’t bother me anymore. Especially after reading that article a couple weeks back with him telling it all. And his health and personal reasons, totally fine with. 

 

where I get hung up is that according to Luck, he made up his mind a couple weeks before. Yet 3 days before he retires, he tells Wishtv8 on video (which I’ve linked before) that he’ll be ready for week 1.  Then he went out and infront of fans and on tv, went through full pregame warm ups where he participated in throwing drills.  That is willfully deceiving the fans, even if he had told the Colts.  And it’s what most fans who don’t want luck in the ROH point to these days.  

7 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

I was just giving you a hard time for posting this click baity thread. 

Oh I know. I couldn’t resist. I was in a smart butt mood that day

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4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

1. Was the timing of Andrew Luck's retirement bad? YES.

 

2. By retiring, did he set the franchise back 5 years? YES.

 

Having said those 2 things:

When Andrew Luck played, was he a very good QB, great at times? Yes.

 

Does he belong in the ROH? His stats and wins say YES.

 

Glad he will back in Indianapolis for this event. Chuck thanks the world of Andrew.

To your later points, I think this event is a test to see how receptive local fans are to Luck at a colts event. If it goes well, I could see some sort of honoring ceremony or even the ROH in the future. If it goes poorly, I can’t imagine Irsay would try to honor him anytime soon.

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On 2/28/2024 at 3:54 AM, stitches said:

Good. I hope he visits some games of the team during the season... maybe get inducted into the Ring of Honor at some point. It's not great look for the franchise for both of their last big time franchise QBs to be so far away from the team post retirement. 

 

As time goes by, I think a reunion is appropriate. I was going to say "reconciliation," but I'm not sure there's any beef between Luck and the Colts, or ever has been. 

 

I think the reason he's been distant is because he wanted to pursue a life away from being a football player, and he stayed away to do that. He took a job on the West Coast, he's doing other things, raising his family, etc. And the Colts have let him have his space, especially because the fans have been so thirsty for a replacement franchise QB, to the point that anytime he was seen in the area people wondered if it meant he was thinking about coming back. Maybe Hilton's comments about the booing are a reflection of Luck's feelings toward being in the stadium on game day, but that's not about the organization itself. 

 

As for Ring of Honor, I've been on the fence on this, and have never really thought about it. But I just looked at the list. Jim Harbaugh was a decent player, the team had a fantastical run to the AFCCG with him, but he was here for four years and went into the ROH eight years later. Marshall Faulk, five years with the Colts, left on bad terms. Eric Dickerson, four and a half years with the Colts. Luck is just as worthy as any of them, if not more.

 

However, everyone after Faulk was here during the glory days, was on the team for at least a decade, and won a SB. So the bar has been set significantly higher since then. 

 

If Luck ever does go in the ROH, it will only be after a few more years have passed. 

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6 hours ago, csmopar said:

To your later points, I think this event is a test to see how receptive local fans are to Luck at a colts event. If it goes well, I could see some sort of honoring ceremony or even the ROH in the future. If it goes poorly, I can’t imagine Irsay would try to honor him anytime soon.

 

So are you going to stand outside wearing a sandwich sign, banging a pot in protest? 

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So are you going to stand outside wearing a sandwich sign, banging a pot in protest? 

No, I was thinking of buying a ticket and going inside with a bullhorn and booing. 

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As time goes by, I think a reunion is appropriate. I was going to say "reconciliation," but I'm not sure there's any beef between Luck and the Colts, or ever has been. 

 

I think the reason he's been distant is because he wanted to pursue a life away from being a football player, and he stayed away to do that. He took a job on the West Coast, he's doing other things, raising his family, etc. And the Colts have let him have his space, especially because the fans have been so thirsty for a replacement franchise QB, to the point that anytime he was seen in the area people wondered if it meant he was thinking about coming back. Maybe Hilton's comments about the booing are a reflection of Luck's feelings toward being in the stadium on game day, but that's not about the organization itself. 

 

As for Ring of Honor, I've been on the fence on this, and have never really thought about it. But I just looked at the list. Jim Harbaugh was a decent player, the team had a fantastical run to the AFCCG with him, but he was here for four years and went into the ROH eight years later. Marshall Faulk, five years with the Colts, left on bad terms. Eric Dickerson, four and a half years with the Colts. Luck is just as worthy as any of them, if not more.

 

However, everyone after Faulk was here during the glory days, was on the team for at least a decade, and won a SB. So the bar has been set significantly higher since then. 

 

If Luck ever does go in the ROH, it will only be after a few more years have passed. 

That + QBs have a bit of a different status than any other position. Even without having watched Jim Harbaugh with the Colts, to me it's hard to imagine he had anywhere close to the impact Luck had on this team. 

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That + QBs have a bit of a different status than any other position. Even without having watched Jim Harbaugh with the Colts, to me it's hard to imagine he had anywhere close to the impact Luck had on this team. 

His impact at the time, was the best the colts had since Johnny U in his prime. It’s understandable why he’s there. 

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His impact at the time, was the best the colts had since Johnny U in his prime. It’s understandable why he’s there. 

Just to be clear - I am not saying he shouldn't be in the RoH. I'm saying Luck's place in there should be no brainer. 

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Just to be clear - I am not saying he shouldn't be in the RoH. I'm saying Luck's place in there should be no brainer. 

Fair enough. I disagree. Luck’s deception rules him out in my opinion. 

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