some takeaways from today's game

[CurBeatElite]

Overall, a very good team win, IMO.

 

Jacoby played well, other than a couple errant throws, he continues to protect the ball and makes the plays the coaches are asking him to make.  He made a couple of very nice throws and this was the first game I can remember this season where he was asked to throw the ball long so many times -- he showed he has the arm to make deeper throws.  I was glad to see Pascal being utilized as a deep threat.

 

Other individuals that impressed:

 

1) Ebron -- I thought he could potentially have snagged one ball in the endzone where he was kind of diving out of bounds, which the Texans got a pass interference called on them for, otherwise, I thought this was his best game by far.  He made a heckuva TD catch w/ 1 hand in the back of the end zone and  was really a major part of the game plan.

2) Leonard -- 10 tackles and a great INT to seal the game.  I think he's 'back' if today's performance was any indication.  I thought this was his best game of the year.

3) TY -- his run after catch was very good today.  I'd still like to see him getting open on deep routes a bit more, but he was solid today and aside from his TD he has at least one very nice run after the catch to gain some crucial yards.

4) Big Q -- dude is a stud, the whole OL looked good to me except a couple plays where Glowinski looks like he's the weak link.

5) Ya-Sin -- he got beat on at least 2 plays, but he was right there -- hopefully just a little more time in the film room will help him turn his head a split second faster and knock those balls down or get picks -- regardless, he seems to have improved each week and he seems to have a short memory even if he does get beat, which is a huge positive trait for a rookie DB.

6) Geathers -- he had a couple nice ST plays and didn't look too out of position on D, I thought today was a nice game for him.

7) Shakial Taylor -- I didn't see much of him, but from what I did see, I think this kid will stick around the league for a while.

8) Justin Houston/Jabaal Sheard -- it was very nice to have 3 sacks against Watson.  Houston and Sheard both seemed to apply pretty consistent pressure throughout the game w/ Houston picking up 2 sacks and Sheard 1.

9) Desir -- I didn't notice much of him outside the INT, but was happy to see him have a solid performance as a game-time decision.

10) Pascal -- had his best game as a Colt and was just a couple yards too long on the trick play with his through to Hines, would've been great to see that completed.  He also was credited for the safety, showing he plays a valuable role on STs.

11) Wilkins -- didn't get used much, but had a very nice 9 yard run on one of his two rushing attempts.

12) Vinny and Rigo -- Vinny was 4/4 on XP's and Rigo had a couple of nice punts inside the 20.  I don't think Rigo's leg will ever be what McAfee's was, but he's certainly a good punter in this league and our STs played well throughout the game.

 

Some (minor) disappointments:

1) Mack -- while it did seem like the Texans were trying to take away our run and we were favoring the passing game, I thought today was Mack's worst game of the year.  I'll have to watch closer, but it just seemed like he wasn't really able to pick up anything on his own.

2) Deon Cain -- not sure if he was a healthy scratch or not, but he doesn't even show up on the box score.  It'd really be nice if either he and/or Funchess can step up here soon to give the WR corps another threat outside of TY and Pascal.

3) Our zone secondary in the end zone -- this is the 2nd time this year when our zone just broke down in the redzone (the first being against Mahommes in KC).  I get it, it's a zone and things get chaotic when plays break down, but the one reception TD tonight I thought our secondary showed poor overall awareness by allowing a guy to find a wide-open seem in the D with several DBs right in the vicinity.

 

Indifferences:

1) Reich -- thought his offensive game plan (especially early) was masterful.  Overall, think it was a positive game, but it seemed like we could've put them away more convincingly earlier than we did aside from a few questionable game management calls (overall, I think Reich was positive, just a few things he did late which made me scratch my head).

2) DL -- Houston and Sheard I thought played very well.  And yes, aside from 3-4 decent run plays against us, our DL played fairly well.  I still think we've gotta improve the interior of that unit if we want to win games in the playoffs, though.

 

Again, overall, I thought it was a positive performance.  Glad to show the NFL that the Colts can beat you in more ways than 1 on the offensive (and optimistically, think we've not peaked there yet with guys like Funchess and Campbell expected back).   Our D, for the most part, looked pretty strong.  I think we've got a lot of young talent on this team across the board (from the young OL and some young WRs stepping up, along with the younger RBs -- to Ya-Sin, Leonard, Willis, etc. on D -- to Dulin, Pascal and others on the ST unit).

 

Perhaps the best thing is we are alone at 1st place in the AFC South and are 2-0 in our division games.  We're one of 5 teams in the AFC with a >.600 winning percentage and we could very easily be 5-1 or 6-0 instead of 4-2.  We've been winning games differently every week, which (IMO) is a good thing and will serve us well down the stretch.  We also haven't been fully healthy all year, so let's hope we stay healthy and get guys back each week (IMO, Hooker/Funchess/Campbell/Lewis/etc. will all improve this team significantly if they can come back healthy).

 

 

 

 

[Imgrandojji]

The big thing for me about this game is that the passing game now has a the beginnings of a strong foundation.  The emergence of Pascal as a potential WR2 and JB developing chemistry with him solves a problem that has held us back in the air since Funchess got hurt and really opens up the game for TY.

 

I still think we need 1 more good receiving threat, whether it's one of the guys on the roster or a guy we bring in. 

 

I do think we're good enough at this point that there's no excuse not to be buyers at the deadline.  We are Superbowl contenders right now, and we're somewhere in the top 5 in the AFC at the moment by most people's reckoning, so I really hope Ballard doesn't sit tight.  I think we'll make some good moves though.  Sanu would be my ideal move.  Manny Sanders would also be fantastic.

[CurBeatElite]

7 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

The big thing for me about this game is that the passing game now has a the beginnings of a strong foundation.  The emergence of Pascal as a potential WR2 and JB developing chemistry with him solves a problem that has held us back in the air since Funchess got hurt and really opens up the game for TY.

 

I still think we need 1 more good receiving threat, whether it's one of the guys on the roster or a guy we bring in. 

 

I do think we're good enough at this point that there's no excuse not to be buyers at the deadline.  We are Superbowl contenders right now, and we're somewhere in the top 5 in the AFC at the moment by most people's reckoning, so I really hope Ballard doesn't sit tight.  I think we'll make some good moves though.  Sanu would be my ideal move.  Manny Sanders would also be fantastic.

 

Yea, I don't know if we have to make a move if Funchess and Campbell come back 100%.  They said early in the year they didn't think we'd see a lot from Cain until the 2nd half of the season (didn't see him do anything notable today), but with those 3 guys back, we may be all right at WR.

 

I still have a strong feeling that Reich/Sirrianni have some wrinkles in this D which they've yet to display.  Today's game opened the O up more than I can remember seeing in a while, but when (assuming we do) get back to full health, I think we'll see some new tricks come out of Reich's sleeves.

 

 

[compuls1v3]

The elephant in the room: the TD they took away from Watson.  That was nonsense and we'd be having a forum meltdown if it happened to us AND we lost.  Glad we came out on top. Great game by the Colts!

[dodsworth]

5 hours ago, compuls1v3 said:

The elephant in the room: the TD they took away from Watson.  That was nonsense and we'd be having a forum meltdown if it happened to us AND we lost.  Glad we came out on top. Great game by the Colts!

Watson was in the grasp of a Colt player. This was the correct call.

[basketballsteve]

J.B. Made 4 or 5 obvious throw aways when he saw the play call wasn't there or coverage was too tight. I think that demonstrates his judgement and maturity that he understands you don't win or lose on 1 play, you win by making the plays you can and avoiding big mistakes at any cost. In the interview post game a reporter tried to give him an out for the fumbled snap and JB had none of it and owned the mistake of just not catching the ball. We are lucky to have him, it is one of the best trades we ever made up there with bubba smith for ray Chester.

[Coffeedrinker]

7 hours ago, compuls1v3 said:

The elephant in the room: the TD they took away from Watson.  That was nonsense and we'd be having a forum meltdown if it happened to us AND we lost.  Glad we came out on top. Great game by the Colts!

A few things about this.

 

I believe it was the correct call, they have blown plays dead on the QB when he was stopped for less than Watson.

 

Two, I don't think the TD would have stood up after replay.  Hopkins never established control of the ball before it was knocked out.

 

Had the TD stood it would have been a 4 point difference, Houston lost by 7.  Now with chaos theory, we know that everything else would not have played out exactly the same if the circumstances were different, I don't think the extra 4 points would have mattered in the end.

[GOLFoholic]

Glowinski has to go (or at least stay in a backup role).

 

Please Ballard draft another right Guard in the 2020 draft.

Don't take my word, watch the film. He was beat quite easily on many run or pass plays.

 

Probably the best we got now at RG, but I would make this my first (or second round) draft choice behind DE.

[compuls1v3]

3 hours ago, dodsworth said:

Watson was in the grasp of a Colt player. This was the correct call.

Is this a recent rule change?  I remember plenty of times McNabb and Rothlisberger making great plays with people at their feet.

[compuls1v3]

1 hour ago, Coffeedrinker said:

A few things about this.

 

I believe it was the correct call, they have blown plays dead on the QB when he was stopped for less than Watson.

 

Two, I don't think the TD would have stood up after replay.  Hopkins never established control of the ball before it was knocked out.

 

Had the TD stood it would have been a 4 point difference, Houston lost by 7.  Now with chaos theory, we know that everything else would not have played out exactly the same if the circumstances were different, I don't think the extra 4 points would have mattered in the end.

I can see your second point, but I'm just saying, playing devil's advocate, if that whistle happened to Brissett on the same type of play, people would be LIVID around here.  Correct call or not.  Still, what a great game to watch yesterday.  The nice thing is, there is STILL room for improvement, and we had a great game.  With a 21-9 lead it would have been nice to bury them.  With that said, it was fun to watch!

[dodsworth]

16 minutes ago, compuls1v3 said:

Is this a recent rule change?  I remember plenty of times McNabb and Rothlisberger making great plays with people at their feet.

They are wrapping the quarterbacks in bubblewrap. The same rules

that protect the QB can sometimes come back to bite them with 

plays like this.

[compuls1v3]

1 minute ago, dodsworth said:

They are wrapping the quarterbacks in bubblewrap. The same rules

that protect the QB can sometimes come back to bite them with 

plays like this.

Ah, ok.  Well, I'm happy to be wrong in this case.  Go Colts!

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Cain is going going to have a hard time even being active when Campbell and funchess come back.

[Creekside]

3 hours ago, basketballsteve said:

J.B. Made 4 or 5 obvious throw aways when he saw the play call wasn't there or coverage was too tight. 

 

The importance of this cannot be overstated. When it happens, it's like, ho-hum, boring, whatever. .... But it is very important to not take a sack or force a bad throw. This is about my only criticism of AL. He just would not do it. He would take a sack far too often or force a throw rather than throw it away. Not saying JB is a better QB. But in this one very important way, he is.

[BigQungus]

2 hours ago, GOLFoholic said:

Glowinski has to go (or at least stay in a backup role).

 

Please Ballard draft another right Guard in the 2020 draft.

Don't take my word, watch the film. He was beat quite easily on many run or pass plays.

 

Probably the best we got now at RG, but I would make this my first (or second round) draft choice behind DE.

 

My goodness Glow isn't so bad that we need to spend a first on a guard again! 

[BigQungus]

2 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:

A few things about this.

 

I believe it was the correct call, they have blown plays dead on the QB when he was stopped for less than Watson.

 

Two, I don't think the TD would have stood up after replay.  Hopkins never established control of the ball before it was knocked out.

 

Had the TD stood it would have been a 4 point difference, Houston lost by 7.  Now with chaos theory, we know that everything else would not have played out exactly the same if the circumstances were different, I don't think the extra 4 points would have mattered in the end.

 

I don't know about that. The argument about forward progress being stopped doesn't hold up since Watson wasn't an established runner. He was in a passing stance. Just because he had a guy at his ankle while he was passing, doesn't make him a runner or something.

 

I agree with everything else though. To me it looked like Odum punched the ball out immediately. I would be very mad if that was a touchdown but the Ebron touchdown against the Chargers wasn't.

 

When we're doing alternate history theorizing, we must ignore the chaos theory, especially if the changed event is something that happened in the 2nd quarter. True, perhaps everything else changes from that and we lose, but perhaps it doesn't, and it's anyone's guess what would've happened after that.

[dodsworth]

27 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Cain is going going to have a hard time even being active when Campbell and funchess come back.

He will probably struggle keeping his roster spot next season with TY,

Pascal, Campbell and Fountain securing roster spots next year.

[NorthernColt]

1 minute ago, dodsworth said:

He will probably struggle keeping his roster spot next season with TY,

Pascal, Campbell and Fountain securing roster spots next year.

Obviously way to early to tell, but I feel like with Funchess missing most of the year, they'll run it back with him next year and likely go with Hilton, Funchess, Pascal and Campbell. Then let the rest battle for it.

[FRW]

If the Watson in the grasp was the correct call then we should have had a late hit flag thrown on us because someone leveled him after the whistle blew the play dead. Either he was in the grasp and the play was dead/late hit or the play was still alive and it's a TD. Houston got screwed. We might have won anyway. We would have called different plays late in the game if we hasn't been trying to protect a 12 point lead. But it's fair to say it would have been a more exciting finish. 

[aaron11]

10 hours ago, compuls1v3 said:

The elephant in the room: the TD they took away from Watson.  That was nonsense and we'd be having a forum meltdown if it happened to us AND we lost.  Glad we came out on top. Great game by the Colts!

what about the TD they got when they should have been called for an illegal shift, or not resetting?

 

it sounds like a petty call, but that play went for a TD and should have been flagged

[compuls1v3]

10 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

what about the TD they got when they should have been called for an illegal shift, or not resetting?

 

it sounds like a petty call, but that play went for a TD and should have been flagged

That's fair.  I guess it all evens out in the end.

[throwing BBZ]

Game after game our opponents are losing 3-4 players.
We are very physical and laying the hurt on them.

[CurBeatElite]

6 hours ago, GOLFoholic said:

Glowinski has to go (or at least stay in a backup role).

 

Please Ballard draft another right Guard in the 2020 draft.

Don't take my word, watch the film. He was beat quite easily on many run or pass plays.

 

Probably the best we got now at RG, but I would make this my first (or second round) draft choice behind DE.

 

I agree that Glowinski is the weak link of the OL, but I don't think he's that bad.  

 

I could be wrong, and Smith has been doing a very nice job at RT... but I still think with his size that G (which he played in college) is his most natural position.  TBH, I'd rather see us get a very good RT and move Smith inside to RG (I think this would give us the best interior line in football hands down).  

 

Either way, I was kind of hoping Haeg or Clark would take that next step this year and potentially replace Glow, but apparently that hasn't happened.  Still think both those guys ought to be solid depth players if we need them, which is a big improvement from when Ballard took over this team.

 

Regardless, I don't think we need to invest another 1st round pick into a RG but I would be very happy if someone else stepped up to replace Glow or if we brought someone in through draft or FA to challenge for that spot.

 

3 hours ago, egg said:

 

The importance of this cannot be overstated. When it happens, it's like, ho-hum, boring, whatever. .... But it is very important to not take a sack or force a bad throw. This is about my only criticism of AL. He just would not do it. He would take a sack far too often or force a throw rather than throw it away. Not saying JB is a better QB. But in this one very important way, he is.

 

Peyton was very similar to Luck in this regard, especially early in his career.  I think part of that trait in both of them was they very rarely had more than mediocre defenses.  I always got the impression (especially from Peyton), that when he threw forced INTs that his mentality was 'my defense is so bad, it doesn't matter if we punt or if I throw an INT because the other team is going to ram it down our D's throat and score on us anyway.'  Additionally, after we lost Edge, I don't recall seeing Peyton or Luck with as balanced of an attack as this (i.e., we can 'run the damn ball' most of the time with this offensive line).

 

Props to Brissett for not turning the ball over, and props to Ballard/Reich for building a team which allows the QB to trust other aspects aside from his arm to be able to make throwing the ball away a peaceful decision.

 

3 hours ago, dodsworth said:

He will probably struggle keeping his roster spot next season with TY,

Pascal, Campbell and Fountain securing roster spots next year.

 

Fountain's injury was pretty gruesome.  I agree, at this point he's behind TY, Pascal and Campbell -- but I don't think Cain is 100% quite yet coming from his injury last year and I think it'll take Fountain a while to really gain his confidence in that ankle after his injury.  

 

3 hours ago, NorthernColt said:

Obviously way to early to tell, but I feel like with Funchess missing most of the year, they'll run it back with him next year and likely go with Hilton, Funchess, Pascal and Campbell. Then let the rest battle for it.

 

Not sure about this, though I can see your logic.

 

We brought Funchess on a 1 year deal as a player who Reich really liked, though there was some concerns about his drops.

 

From what I could see, Funchess was coming along nicely and developing chemistry w/ Brissett.  We'll see how that continues when he returns to the field.  The nice thing is that a broken collar bone is a very common injury which very rarely results in any sort of serious long-term damage (i.e., he's not coming back from a severe knee injury or any tendon/ligament damage which can linger for a long time).  

 

However, we signed him at 1 year $13 million (which isn't too exorbitant, but it's still fairly expensive).  Also, this upcoming draft is one of the deepest WR drafts in a while and is full of big-bodied guys with similar skillsets as Funchess (there are 7 WRs in the top 40, with 5 of them being 6'2" or taller).  

 

I don't know how Funchess is valued as a leader for this team (Ballard/Reich seem to put a lot into that)... but if I were to guess right now, unless Funchess really kicks it off w/ Brissett he is going to have to take a pay cut to stay in Indy -- otherwise, I see Ballard bringing in a big-bodied WR in the draft which frees up a little cap space for a few years.

[krunk]

Seems like the pass rush has improved quite a bit with Sheard, Autry, and Justin Houston all playing at the same time.  They were moving through Houstons line like swiss cheese just like they did against KC.  If the Texans can't block those 3 any better than what they did yesterday then I don't see Houston winning the 2nd game either.  Houston couldn't run against us and they couldn't block our pass rush either.  That's not a formula for winning.

[krunk]

I still have faith in Cain.  I saw everything I needed to see from a talent standpoint in the preseason to know he's a legit player.  I just think they need to come out early and get him involved in the game plan.  No way he should be going whole games with no catches. 

[throwing BBZ]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

Seems like the pass rush has improved quite a bit with Sheard, Autry, and Justin Houston all playing at the same time.  They were moving through Houstons line like swiss cheese just like they did against KC.  If the Texans can't block those 3 any better than what they did yesterday then I don't see Houston winning the 2nd game either.  Houston couldn't run against us and they couldn't block our pass rush either.  That's not a formula for winning.

 

 Sheard is 100% effort and smarts. He has cleaned up containment on his side and makes a difference when they move him inside.
The guy earns his $$$.

[compuls1v3]

1 hour ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Sheard is 100% effort and smarts. He has cleaned up containment on his side and makes a difference when they move him inside.
The guy earns his $$$.

Wasn't he another gift from the Patriots? Albeit F/A and not trade, right?

[DynaMike]

48 minutes ago, compuls1v3 said:

Wasn't he another gift from the Patriots? Albeit F/A and not trade, right?

Yes that's true.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Having Sheard back has allowed Houston to just go after the QB. They compliment each other really well.

[Rally5]

2 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Sheard is 100% effort and smarts. He has cleaned up containment on his side and makes a difference when they move him inside.
The guy earns his $$$.

Yep!  Pay Sheard!

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

We are slowly getting every back healthy. I think we are going to just get better. BTW Devin Funchess reposted his agents story on IG that says coming soon. I really do expect him back at practice this week. With pascal emerging we are going to get that much strong with DF back.

[GOLFoholic]

11 hours ago, BigQungus said:

 

My goodness Glow isn't so bad that we need to spend a first on a guard again! 

Guys, if you don't think a first round pick is worth it on a guard, just remember what Nelson has done to transform this offense! Having a superior offensive line is demoralizing to opponents.

 

Here's a few stats from the Texans game on Glow

6\25 RUN plays he was beat, missed his guy, held, fell down in the hole, or completely wiffed on the second level block (that's 24% of running plays)

15\44 PASS plays he was beat with a swim move, didnt pick up the stunt, held, or was powered straight thru (that's 34% of pass plays)

 

That's between A quarter and a third of our offense being affected by his play. Most of these misses had a direct affect of Brissett getting hit or hurried or the running game getting stuffed. 

 

That's straight from the tape  and has nothing to do with scheme. Straight up man assignments. A lot of the successful plays he was part of a double team, or the pass was so quick he didn't have time to fail.

 

Watch the tape

 

 

[GOLFoholic]

7 hours ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

I agree that Glowinski is the weak link of the OL, but I don't think he's that bad.  

 

I could be wrong, and Smith has been doing a very nice job at RT... but I still think with his size that G (which he played in college) is his most natural position.  TBH, I'd rather see us get a very good RT and move Smith inside to RG (I think this would give us the best interior line in football hands down).  

 

Either way, I was kind of hoping Haeg or Clark would take that next step this year and potentially replace Glow, but apparently that hasn't happened.  Still think both those guys ought to be solid depth players if we need them, which is a big improvement from when Ballard took over this team.

 

Regardless, I don't think we need to invest another 1st round pick into a RG but I would be very happy if someone else stepped up to replace Glow or if we brought someone in through draft or FA to challenge for that spot.

 

 

Peyton was very similar to Luck in this regard, especially early in his career.  I think part of that trait in both of them was they very rarely had more than mediocre defenses.  I always got the impression (especially from Peyton), that when he threw forced INTs that his mentality was 'my defense is so bad, it doesn't matter if we punt or if I throw an INT because the other team is going to ram it down our D's throat and score on us anyway.'  Additionally, after we lost Edge, I don't recall seeing Peyton or Luck with as balanced of an attack as this (i.e., we can 'run the damn ball' most of the time with this offensive line).

 

Props to Brissett for not turning the ball over, and props to Ballard/Reich for building a team which allows the QB to trust other aspects aside from his arm to be able to make throwing the ball away a peaceful decision.

 

 

Fountain's injury was pretty gruesome.  I agree, at this point he's behind TY, Pascal and Campbell -- but I don't think Cain is 100% quite yet coming from his injury last year and I think it'll take Fountain a while to really gain his confidence in that ankle after his injury.  

 

 

Not sure about this, though I can see your logic.

 

We brought Funchess on a 1 year deal as a player who Reich really liked, though there was some concerns about his drops.

 

From what I could see, Funchess was coming along nicely and developing chemistry w/ Brissett.  We'll see how that continues when he returns to the field.  The nice thing is that a broken collar bone is a very common injury which very rarely results in any sort of serious long-term damage (i.e., he's not coming back from a severe knee injury or any tendon/ligament damage which can linger for a long time).  

 

However, we signed him at 1 year $13 million (which isn't too exorbitant, but it's still fairly expensive).  Also, this upcoming draft is one of the deepest WR drafts in a while and is full of big-bodied guys with similar skillsets as Funchess (there are 7 WRs in the top 40, with 5 of them being 6'2" or taller).  

 

I don't know how Funchess is valued as a leader for this team (Ballard/Reich seem to put a lot into that)... but if I were to guess right now, unless Funchess really kicks it off w/ Brissett he is going to have to take a pay cut to stay in Indy -- otherwise, I see Ballard bringing in a big-bodied WR in the draft which frees up a little cap space for a few years.

See responses to BigQungus on Glowinskis performance and stats from yesterday's game. The tape does not lie.

[CurBeatElite]

41 minutes ago, GOLFoholic said:

See responses to BigQungus on Glowinskis performance and stats from yesterday's game. The tape does not lie.

 

Ya, Glow is the weak link of the OL right now... but is still an improvement to what we had when Ballard/Reich took over this team.  He didn't have a good game against HOU but they also have one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL.

 

Nelson is a once in a generation talent, I don't see any guards coming out this year close to him.  While I trust Ballard, I highly doubt we'll take a G with our first rounder given the fact that we can use help at several other positions and there will probably be better positional value there for us in the first at other positions.

[braveheartcolt]

Every team has several 'weak links'. The good teams just limit their negative inpact on the overall performance.

 

And why are we all rattling on about Cain or Fountain or Campbell? They have produced nothing of any substance in meaningful games. I would not be surprised if none of those 3 ever became regulars.

 

Oh gosh, I am grumpy this morning.......

[Dark Superman]

How about that Zach Pascal guy stepping up!?

[Stephen]

3 hours ago, braveheartcolt said:

Every team has several 'weak links'. The good teams just limit their negative inpact on the overall performance.

 

And why are we all rattling on about Cain or Fountain or Campbell? They have produced nothing of any substance in meaningful games. I would not be surprised if none of those 3 ever became regulars.

 

Oh gosh, I am grumpy this morning.......

cain and Campbell  succeeding  may be key to beating the Patriots  in the playoffs. That's  why we need atleast one of them to step up. Belichick will probably  take mack out the game early  and force us to pass. Then he'll take away Hilton  and pascal.

[Defjamz26]

Also Wilson continues to be an issue. There’s no reason a CB should get beat in coverage by a 6’7” TE. It would be understandable if he got beat for a jump ball, but Fells straight up beat him off the line. Haven’t been impressed with this secondary overall. Really looks like Hooker carries them tbh.

 

And yes, Glow sticks out like a sore thumb. He needs to be upgraded at some point. Teams are going to start targeting him if they haven’t already.

 

Still feel the same way about the DT position. Box score doesn’t show it but there were a few chunk runs by Hyde and Johnson that they got way too easy.

 

Turray wasn’t really a loss to this team. Sheard and Houston are a nice duo

[BigQungus]

8 hours ago, GOLFoholic said:

Guys, if you don't think a first round pick is worth it on a guard, just remember what Nelson has done to transform this offense! Having a superior offensive line is demoralizing to opponents.

 

Here's a few stats from the Texans game on Glow

6\25 RUN plays he was beat, missed his guy, held, fell down in the hole, or completely wiffed on the second level block (that's 24% of running plays)

15\44 PASS plays he was beat with a swim move, didnt pick up the stunt, held, or was powered straight thru (that's 34% of pass plays)

 

That's between A quarter and a third of our offense being affected by his play. Most of these misses had a direct affect of Brissett getting hit or hurried or the running game getting stuffed. 

 

That's straight from the tape  and has nothing to do with scheme. Straight up man assignments. A lot of the successful plays he was part of a double team, or the pass was so quick he didn't have time to fail.

 

Watch the tape

 

 

 

I think we have worse needs than a guard

[krunk]

8 hours ago, braveheartcolt said:

Every team has several 'weak links'. The good teams just limit their negative inpact on the overall performance.

 

And why are we all rattling on about Cain or Fountain or Campbell? They have produced nothing of any substance in meaningful games. I would not be surprised if none of those 3 ever became regulars.

 

Oh gosh, I am grumpy this morning.......

Yeah you are