The Path to 53 (Colts Roster Cuts Thread)

[TKnight24]

 

[John Waylon]

Releasing Simon. 

 

What a smart move. 

 

We don’t need good players anyways. 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

6 minutes ago, TKnight24 said:

 

Wow must be scheme and injuries, to bad the dude plays hard!!

[TKnight24]

 

[Fisticuffs111]

Yup called it, they tried to trade him per Rapoport.

[PrincetonTiger]

Guess Rap was right about JS being on the bubble

[jvan1973]

Cutting Simon is a head scratcher for sure

[Pacergeek]

If Simon does well for another team, the Chris Ballard honeymoon period is over

[DougDew]

9 minutes ago, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

A coach tells a GM what types of players he needs to run his system. Its then the scouts and GM responsibility to bring in the talent. It seems you like RG and not CP. But the facts are RG gets the final say. I HIGHLY doubt that CP lobbied for Dorrest to be picked in round 1 when we had huge defensive needs and Landon Collins for instance on the board. I believe CP would have preferred a different player. RG strength was he was suppose to be a good talent evaluator IMO he wasn't, he was arrogant, and got to cute with picks like Dorrest when you had a guy with his skill set in TY.  

Sigh.  I assume Polian took Dungy's recommendation about defensive players more than he took them for offensive players, and relied more upon Moore for identifying those.  That would be the proper way an executive would use their subordinate's expertise. 

 

Did CP even lobby for Collins?  If he had, maybe he would be here.

 

CP obviously did not put a comments in a suggestion box about wanting 2nd round talent for his defense.  He pounded the table for a specific player who never amounted to much and was finally cut.

[Fisticuffs111]

I guess Ballard was convinced he wouldn’t fit in the long run, wanted to make sure other guys got the opportunity?

 

I dunno, don’t like the move though.

[MB-ColtsFan]

2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Cutting Simon is a head scratcher for sure

No worries.  They cut Mike, not John.

[jameszeigler834]

1 minute ago, Pacergeek said:

If Simon does well for another team, the Chris Ballard honeymoon period is over

I would have kept him and cut Basham he stinks.

1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

Cutting Simon is a head scratcher for sure

I would have kept him and cut Basham he stinks.

[Pacergeek]

Are Colts tanking? Simon possibly too good to make team? wth lol

[TKnight24]

 

[Calmack]

Okay... now I'm starting to question Ballard a bit. Simon was arguably our best DE. What is he thinking?

[TKnight24]

1 minute ago, Pacergeek said:

Are Colts tanking? Simon possibly too good to make team? wth lol

I’d love for them to tank

 

Give me Nick Bosa next draft

[Hoosiernsavga]

I had Simon as a starter and one of the best defensive players on the roster. 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Calmack said:

Okay... now I'm starting to question Ballard a bit. Simon was arguably our best DE. What is he thinking?

Square peg round hole

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

1 minute ago, DougDew said:

Sigh.  I assume Polian took Dungy's recommendation about defensive players more than he took them for offensive players, and relied more upon Moore for identifying those.  That would be the proper way an executive would use their subordinate's expertise. 

 

Did CP even lobby for Collins?  If he had, maybe he would be here.

 

CP obviously did not put a comments in a suggestion box about wanting 2nd round talent for his defense.  He pounded the table for a specific player.

Dude your grasping a straws and old straws at that. You nor I were in the room with them. We don't know who lobbied for who. Grigson sucked glad hes gone, A coach might look at some tape and say he looks ok. Grigson a good talent scout nope. 

[Calmack]

I'm actually angry. Hankins I can live with. But this? Simon was easily a starter.

[Btown_Colt]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Square peg round hole

Bull. Did you watch him this preseason? He was easily one of, if not the best DE on th team. Heck probably the entire D.

[DaveA1102]

This just makes no sense. Surely the ethos of building a locker room with guys who graft and give everything means Simon is a shoe in.

 

Save $3.3m but we all know we don't need it.

[Calmack]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Square peg round hole

Please elaborate more. Because all I saw was a player tearing it up on the field at his new position of DE. 

[Smoke317]

The one thing we should definitely take from this is that if Ian Rapoport says it, you can take it to the bank. 

[bananabucket]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Square peg round hole

 

This is the type of thinking that is leaving us with maybe the least talented D in the NFL. 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

5 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I would have kept him and cut Basham he stinks.

I would have kept him and cut Basham he stinks.

Agree but Basham is bigger and playing his natural position now. Simon is to small to play end. Sad but true. he will be picked up luckily if healthy.

[DougDew]

17 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

How do you know this? I mean, all I heard about Grigson, he was the polar opposite of letting others to make decisions. There were documented cases, when he insisted that certain players should start and others shouldn't. It's hard to believe that he gave out a first rounder and 2 second rounders like "okay coach, if you want them, i will draft them". 

Where did you here what you heard?  And what decisions were being talked about.

 

I read that Pagano went to FSU with RG to work out Werner  It was in the press.  And Zac Keefer just stated that Pagano was pounding the table for TJ.

 

If RG isn't interested in his input on drafting players, why did he even let CP go to FSU or let CP in the draft room? Obviously he did listen to his input.  They were drafted.

 

Maybe CP pounded the table for Xavier Rhodes and said that Werner was going to stink.  Never saw that reported

 

[Douzer]

The Simon cut indicates to me they have something in the waiver wire pipeline. Moves are coming.

[The Fish]

Hmmm. I get the schematic point, but this D is talent deficient and cutting guys who can play isn't going to be a crowd pleasing move. 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Calmack said:

Please elaborate more. Because all I saw was a player tearing it up on the field at his new position of DE. 

 He wasn’t a long term fit in the 4-3

[TKnight24]

 

[Lef]

Out with neck injury last year. Suffered another, albeit minor, neck injury recently.  Maybe the gm, coach, etc knows more than us fans?

[Flash7]

2 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

This just makes no sense. Surely the ethos of building a locker room with guys who graft and give everything means Simon is a shoe in.

 

Save $3.3m but we all know we don't need it.

Ballard knows that it's not his money right? He doesn't get to keep the cap space.

[Case]

I don’t like cutting Simon.  At all. 

[Calmack]

Just now, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

Agree but Basham is bigger and playing his natural position now. Simon is to small to play end. Sad but true. he will be picked up luckily if healthy.

Basham was straight garbage though. "Natural position" nonsense has to stop. Simon played the same position and excelled. 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, bananabucket said:

 

This is the type of thinking that is leaving us with maybe the least talented D in the NFL. 

Did I ever say I liked it just trying to understand why it happened

[TKnight24]

 

[richard pallo]

Cutting Simon makes us a better team?  

[Btown_Colt]

3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Where did you here what you heard?  And what decisions were being talked about.

 

I read that Pagano went to FSU with RG to work out Werner  It was in the press.  And Zac Keefer just stated that Pagano was pounding the table for TJ.

 

If RG isn't interested in his input on drafting players, why did he even let CP go to FSU or let CP in the draft room? Obviously he did listen to his input.  They were drafted.

 

Maybe CP pounded the table for Xavier Rhodes and said that Werner was going to stink.  Never saw that reported

 

Respectfully, can you guys take this % somewhere else?

[Fisticuffs111]

Can’t preach competition if you’re gonna cut one of the bright spots on defense this preseason.

 

Also, not big on trading our best blocking TE, oh well I guess. Johnson seems intriguing.