The Path to 53 (Colts Roster Cuts Thread)

[TKnight24]

Deadline is Saturday September 1st 4pm ET 

 

Post all cuts here and anything concerning cuts to help our mods and help make the forum a neater and easier place to navigate 

 

 

Updated!!!

 

We have made the following roster moves to reach the league-mandated 53-man roster:

 

https://t.co/3pKppWIA5s

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— Indianapolis Colts (@Colts) September 1, 2018

[TKnight24]

 

[TKnight24]

 

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, TKnight24 said:

 

Agreed

    The only reason I had him on the “bubble” was injury concerns

[Fisticuffs111]

I really hope Simon's not on the bubble, and I know Reich came out and said it didn't mean anything, but I thought it was strange that Simon was playing until late in the 4th quarter in the 2nd preseason game. 

[Dingus McGirt]

They're not being "fired"...and they aren't "jobs."

[crazycolt1]

6 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

They're not being "fired"...and they aren't "jobs."

I can agree with the fired comment but playing in the NFL is a job.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

I can agree with the fired comment but playing in the NFL is a job.

 

9 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

They're not being "fired"...and they aren't "jobs."

 Technically they are being fired from one employer 

[MikeCurtis]

What a rough time for these players

 

Earlier in my career, I hired a former NFL kicker to be on the sales team for my company

His resume said:

 

Team 1XX 

Team 2XX 

 Team 3XX - 

On and on

 

He was fired by 10 teams

 

He played a total of 7 years , and played for 11 teams if my memory serves me.

 

He also actually beat the Colts with a Last minute kick.....

(I hired him anyway)

 

I cant imagine being in a job where your chance of getting fired is so high

 

The pucker factor must be sky high for the "bubble" players

 

Im anxious to see who we end up with....

 

As a fan, I hope one or two of these young WRs step up and contribute.... we need them

 

Pascal???  (I used to program in College with Pascal)

 

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, MikeCurtis said:

What a rough time for these players

 

Earlier in my career, I hired a former NFL kicker to be on the sales team for my company

His resume said:

 

Team 1XX 

Team 2XX 

 Team 3XX - 

On and on

 

He was fired by 10 teams

 

He played a total of 7 years , and played for 11 teams if my memory serves me.

 

He also actually beat the Colts with a Last minute kick.....

(I hired him anyway)

 

I cant imagine being in a job where your chance of getting fired is so high

 

The pucker factor must be sky high for the "bubble" players

 

Im anxious to see who we end up with....

 

As a fan, I hope one or two of these young WRs step up and contribute.... we need them

 

 

 

So true

 

   There are a few guys from the Pocket who tried multiple times to catch on a roster but couldn’t and even tried the SemiPro and CFL route

 

 

     My HS VP was a NFL draftee who got hurt and never got a shot

[TKnight24]

 

[MikeCurtis]

9 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

So true

 

   There are a few guys from the Pocket who tried multiple times to catch on a roster but couldn’t and even tried the SemiPro and CFL route

 

 

     My HS VP was a NFL draftee who got hurt and never got a shot

Its a fragile thing

 

I see these 22 years olds that have a ton of money, then hang with the hood, and are out of football in 2 years

 

Even sadder are the people that get the big money, and are broke at 31..........

 

Its supposedly over 50% of the players are bankrupt 2-3 years after playing

 

But......  when I was 22.....  I wasnt any "brighter".

 

I DID choose to marry my ex-wife

 

 

She was a Bengals fan... I had no choice 

 

 

 

[PrincetonTiger]

16 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

Its a fragile thing

 

I see these 22 years olds that have a ton of money, then hang with the hood, and are out of football in 2 years

 

Even sadder are the people that get the big money, and are broke at 31..........

 

Its supposedly over 50% of the players are bankrupt

 

 

It all matters about the people who surround them

 

   Even though there has been several NFL “failures” in the Pocket there have been guys like Ken Dilger, Kevin Hardy, and Scott Studwell among others

[crazycolt1]

5 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

Its a fragile thing

 

I see these 22 years olds that have a ton of money, then hang with the hood, and are out of football in 2 years

 

Even sadder are the people that get the big money, and are broke at 31..........

 

Its supposedly over 50% of the players are bankrupt

 

 

It is a shame that too many of these players get the money and live for today. A lot of them make enough money to last a lifetime and spend it like there is no tomorrow.

Sad part is most of the people who are family and friends take advantage of them because they can. When the money runs out so do most of so called family and so called friends disappear.

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, crazycolt1 said:

It is a shame that too many of these players get the money and live for today. A lot of them make enough money to last a lifetime and spend it like there is no tomorrow.

Sad part is most of the people who are family and friends take advantage of them because they can. When the money runs out so do most of so called family and so called friends disappear.

 

Improper programs at their HSs

[csmopar]

4 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Improper programs at their HSs

i'd also say improper programs at the collegiate level too. 

1 hour ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Agreed

    The only reason I had him on the “bubble” was injury concerns

same here

[dw49]

I'll make a surprise prediction .

 

Odum makes the roster over Green. 

[csmopar]

48 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I really hope Simon's not on the bubble, and I know Reich came out and said it didn't mean anything, but I thought it was strange that Simon was playing until late in the 4th quarter in the 2nd preseason game. 

that is very strange. I'll be honest, I fell asleep shortly after half time.

[Peterk2011]

32 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

What a rough time for these players

 

Earlier in my career, I hired a former NFL kicker to be on the sales team for my company

His resume said:

.....

He played a total of 7 years , and played for 11 teams if my memory serves me.

 

Wow. I thought NFL kickers who were in the NFL for 7 years, earn enough that they don't ever need to take such jobs as salesman in their lives. I mean, it took me 10+ years to have 1+ mills in investments (well, I'm a bad businessman I guess ), but still, even that 1+ guaranteed me that I won't need to be employed any more in my life .. barring another world crisis and total bankrupcy and such ofc.

[MikeCurtis]

 

2 minutes ago, dw49 said:

I'll make a surprise prediction .

 

Odum makes the roster over Green. 

100% agree...... Green actually being on the field for any team is tough to comprehend

[MikeCurtis]

Just now, Peterk2011 said:

 

Wow. I thought NFL kickers who were in the NFL for 7 years, earn enough that they don't ever need to take such jobs as salesman in their lives. I mean, it took me 10+ years to have 1+ mills in investments (well, I'm a bad businessman I guess ), but still, even that 1+ guaranteed me that I won't need to be employed any more in my life .. barring another world crisis and total bankrupcy and such...

I think he kept some of the money, but he didnt live like it.......  He had an average house

 

He played in the mid to late eighties, long before you saw 2 mil per year for kickers

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

Wow. I thought NFL kickers who were in the NFL for 7 years, earn enough that they don't ever need to take such jobs as salesman in their lives. I mean, it took me 10+ years to have 1+ mills in investments (well, I'm a bad businessman I guess ), but still, even that 1+ guaranteed me that I won't need to be employed any more in my life .. barring another world crisis and total bankrupcy and such...

Kickers rarely get guaranteed money

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, MikeCurtis said:

I think he kept some of the money, but he didnt live like it.......  He had an average house

 

He played in the mid to late eighties, long before you saw 2 mil per year for kickers

   The minimum salary was way lower too

[MikeCurtis]

2 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

I mean, it took me 10+ years to have 1+ mills in investments (well, I'm a bad businessman I guess ), but still, even that 1+ guaranteed me that I won't need to be employed any more in my life .. barring another world crisis and total bankrupcy and such...

 

If you saved $1Mil , you are in the top .05% of the world or.....  99.95% of the world has LESS than you....

 

You should thank the good Lord that you have been so fortunate

 

Bernie is coming after you..........

 

[Peterk2011]

1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:

If you saved $1Mil , you are in the top .05% of the world or.....  99.95% of the world has LESS than you....

You should thank the good Lord that you have been so fortunate

Bernie is coming after you..........

 

I'm an IT guy, running my own small business. (After working for big IT fishes for more than a decade). 1-2 mills are not much actually. It's cca. the bare minimum to keep a small IT business going / alive. So it's a must, not a nice plus to enjoy.  Other than owning my own business, I live an average Joes life. No fancy home, no supercars, no private jet (that I couldn't afford anyway),  no partying etc. I work 50-60 hours a week, get up early, work till the evening, as everybody else. I just happen to have no boss, so I can say no. And in theory, I could quit working if I wanted to. But I don't, so it remains only theory, it doesn't matter.

 

All I wanted to say is that I was surprised, that an ex-NFL player had to do sales for the living. But if he played in the 80's, I get it. Money was different back then. I'd be surprised if a current NFL kicker would have to take a regular job after 7 years of NFL carreer for a living. Even a kicker. (Assuming that he takes good care of his earnings, invest them, etc.)

[Dingus McGirt]

1 hour ago, PrincetonTiger said:

 

 Technically they are being fired from one employer 

Auditions aren't jobs, LOL.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Dingus McGirt said:

Auditions aren't jobs, LOL.

Everyone of the guys on the 90 Manreceive a Colts paycheck

 

 

   Tryouts occur at Rookie Minicamps and local Tryout Camps many NFL teams have

[Peterk2011]

6 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Auditions aren't jobs, LOL.

 

They are under contract. Every one of them. Some of them under UDFA contracts, but an UDFA contract is also a contract, with terms, language, etc. Just like the others, only no money guaranteed. So, they're all employed. (And if employed, I don't see why they are not fired, if released. They are, imo.)

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

I'm an IT guy, running my own small business. (After working for big IT fishes for more than a decade). 1-2 mills are not much actually. It's cca. the bare minimum to keep a small IT business going / alive. So it's a must, not a nice plus to enjoy.  Other than owning my own business, I live an average Joes life. No fancy home, no supercars, no private jet (that I couldn't afford anyway),  no partying etc. I work 50-60 hours a week, get up early, work till the evening, as everybody else. I just happen to have no boss, so I can say no. And in theory, I could quit working if I wanted to. But I don't, so it remains only theory, it doesn't matter.

 

All I wanted to say is that I was surprised, that an ex-NFL player had to do sales for the living. But if he played in the 80's, I get it. Money was different back then. I'd be surprised if a current NFL kicker would have to take a regular job after 7 years of NFL carreer for a living. Even a kicker.

  A lot of them do even if they don’t have too

     Several open small businesses, work as media types or Teach/Coach

 

         Pat McAfee works as radio host, Ken Dilger runs a finance company I think

 

     

[PeterBowman]

8 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

They are under contract. Every one of them. Some of them under UDFA contracts, but an UDFA contract is also a contract, with terms, language, etc. Just like the others, only no money guaranteed. So, they're all employed. (And if employed, I don't see why they are not fired, if released. They are, imo.)

even though the contract isn't guaranteed, the players do get paid a small stipend during camp and pre-season that I'm aware of.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

17 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Auditions aren't jobs, LOL.

More like a paid intern hoping to impress.

[Peterk2011]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

  A lot of them do even if they don’t have too

     Several open small businesses, work as media types or Teach/Coach

     Pat McAfee works as radio host, Ken Dilger runs a finance company I think     

 

Yeah, I know, many people keep doing something even if  they don't need to. But I guess that kicker didn't take that job because being salesman was his hobby, lol.  He took it to pay his bills. That surprised me ... until I was told, that he played in the 80s. That explains it.

[TKnight24]

 

[w87r]

Talk about a thread being derailed.

 

Damn, went out to find the thread with all the recent cuts and news. Ended up back here.

[PrincetonTiger]

10 minutes ago, w87r said:

Talk about a thread being derailed.

 

Damn, went out to find the thread with all the recent cuts and news. Ended up back here.

No Colt cuts yet

[w87r]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

No Colt cuts yet

Point still stands

[RollerColt]

It will start to get busy with rumors and unofficial reports in the next few hours, then it will really pick up pace tomorrow. 

[Fisticuffs111]

Lots of cuts already being made around the league. Gotta think we'll hear some cuts soon.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Lots of cuts already being made around the league.

Most are guys who would been cut in the first round under the old system 

[crazycolt1]

57 minutes ago, w87r said:

Point still stands

We are just making small talk and it ended up on players being cut under a contract.

You may join in or pass it on by.  No one was having a problem with it till you chimed in.