John Waylon Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 According to both Mike Wells and Mort Andrew is over in Europe seeking treatment on his shoulder. Seems pretty out of the ordinary to me... (I'm on mobile so I can't post sources, sorry.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21377935/indianapolis-colts-qb-andrew-luck-europe-seeking-treatment-right-shoulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend300 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Article is on the front page of espn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhere ovr the Waynebow Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Very concerning. They said rehab... And now he's off in Europe looking for other options? Alarming if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B~Town Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, John Waylon said: According to both Mike Wells and Mort Andrew is over in Europe seeking treatment on his shoulder. Seems pretty out of the ordinary to me... (I'm on mobile so I can't post sources, sorry.) Some stem cells and HGH gonna get that shoulder 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 This doesn't surprise me. Kobe Bryant went to Germany to get treatment's for his knees. Some athlete's do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Yeah..... at this point, there is no way to spin ths positively.... He's not getting the results he wants/needs here in America, so he has to go to Europe hoping to find what he's looking for. We can't rule out that he will find the solution for the shoulder. Plenty of athletes have gone to Europe and found alternative treatment there...... but all we can do is hope.... and wait..... Sucks for Andrew. Sucks for the Colts. Sucks for us.... We may have to consider drafting a Quarterback in April..... http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21377935/indianapolis-colts-qb-andrew-luck-europe-seeking-treatment-right-shoulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, B~Town said: Some stem cells and HGH gonna get that shoulder 100% Yes on the stem cells, but he wouldn’t need to go to Europe for HGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Guys I’m sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I wouldn't worry about this too much, I really wouldn't. He has until next September to get healthy and he is just seeking different options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Ronson Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Bit short on details. All they have is that he's on the continent of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: I wouldn't worry about this too much, I really wouldn't. He has until next September to get healthy and he is just seeking different options. It’s probably a good thing he’s doing this, & it probably should’ve been done before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: It’s probably a good thing he’s doing this, & it probably should’ve been done before now. I agree, like I posted earlier. Kobe went to Germany to get his knees treated and it prolonged his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 This just keeps getting better. I'm finally on the panic side of the argument now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I agree, like I posted earlier. Kobe went to Germany to get his knees treated and it prolonged his career. I also agree this is a good thing. Personally I am not too worried about him going over there and getting treatment. It's not an unusual thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Just now, IinD said: This just keeps getting better. I'm finally on the panic side of the argument now. Nah, some athlete's go out of the country for treatment. I wont be in panic mode until the Draft because if we take a QB in April then we know something is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, IinD said: This just keeps getting better. I'm finally on the panic side of the argument now. Don't worry about it. It's not unusual. It more than likely added 3 years on Manning's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said: I also agree this is a good thing. Personally I am not too worried about him going over there and getting treatment. It's not an unusual thing. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Nah, some athlete's go out of the country for treatment. I wont be in panic mode until the Draft because if we take a QB in April then we know something is wrong. Either way I am not too sure if the Colts would draft a QB in the draft. That will depend on how well Brisett does the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Nah, some athlete's go out of the country for treatment. I wont be in panic mode until the Draft because if we take a QB in April then we know something is wrong. Hopefully all goes well, but I'm not digging this honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said: Either way I am not too sure if the Colts would draft a QB in the draft. That will depend on how well Brisett does the rest of the season. I actually like Brissett. Love his calm cool demeanor and he is a GREAT backup, OK starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said: Don't worry about it. It's not unusual. It more than likely added 3 years on Manning's career. I'm also hoping it's for an alternative treatment. I'm just sick of this like all of us are. I'm just having visions of a broken looking Luck taking the field next September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I actually like Brissett. Love his calm cool demeanor and he is a GREAT backup, OK starter. I think Brisett will get a lot better when the game slows down for him. I just hope he stays healthy till that time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, IinD said: Hopefully all goes well, but I'm not digging this honestly. I think everyone is a tad worried. I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried but Star athlete's going out of the country to seek treatment isn't unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said: I think Brisett will get a lot better when the game slows down for him. I just hope he stays healthy till that time comes. Some of the hits he takes isn't good either. Our O.Line drives me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: I think everyone is a tad worried. I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried but Star athlete's going out of the country to seek treatment isn't unusual. I'm not a panicer (is that a word??) in general and it seems like every day an article comes out about his shoulder. Next season can't get here soon enough. My main fear is if he's not the same how we'll have to hear how we ruined a once in a generation QB for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I will say this, Brissett is miles better than Scott Tolzien . That is why I know we aren't tanking, if we were tanking then Tolzien would've been playing all year. That guy stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, IinD said: I'm not a panicer (is that a word??) in general and it seems like every day an article comes out about his shoulder. Next season can't get here soon enough. My main fear is if he's not the same how we'll have to hear how we ruined a once in a generation QB for years to come. Yeah it's going to be a long year and the media wont let up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 At every step of the way, the timing has just been horrendous. I've got more questions now than I did yesterday.. Where's the GM now? Ballard at every opportunity used the caveat "we haven't gotten that, not yet" regarding the question of will he be able to play again- context being no doctors said that his long term out look might not involve a full recovery. I have to imagine that more surgery is pretty likely, if the Euro medicine doesn't pan out (which I'm not sure why it would, but alternative medicine is a thing and I'm not going to pretend to know anything about it- other than it's done and Athletes in rough spots give it a go.). I'm trying to be optimistic here, but there's a real chance that the worst case scenario is staring us in the face. Here's hoping JB keeps getting better, because I don't think there's any QB's in this class that are anything close enough to justify a high pick- and we're going to have that pick. Barf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: At every step of the way, the timing has just been horrendous. I've got more questions now than I did yesterday.. Where's the GM now? Ballard at every opportunity used the caveat "we haven't gotten that, not yet" regarding the question of will he be able to play again- context being no doctors said that his long term out look might not involve a full recovery. I have to imagine that more surgery is pretty likely, if the Euro medicine doesn't pan out (which I'm not sure why it would, but alternative medicine is a thing and I'm not going to pretend to know anything about it- other than it's done and Athletes in rough spots give it a go.). I'm trying to be optimistic here, but there's a real chance that the worst case scenario is staring us in the face. Here's hoping JB keeps getting better, because I don't think there's any QB's in this class that are anything close enough to justify a high pick- and we're going to have that pick. Barf. I feel exactly the same. I'm in the wth mind set. I don't know what to think or feel honestly. Are they trying this to see if it may accelerate things or because they have no other answers left and he's essentially broken in a football sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Fish said: At every step of the way, the timing has just been horrendous. I've got more questions now than I did yesterday.. Where's the GM now? Ballard at every opportunity used the caveat "we haven't gotten that, not yet" regarding the question of will he be able to play again- context being no doctors said that his long term out look might not involve a full recovery. I have to imagine that more surgery is pretty likely, if the Euro medicine doesn't pan out (which I'm not sure why it would, but alternative medicine is a thing and I'm not going to pretend to know anything about it- other than it's done and Athletes in rough spots give it a go.). I'm trying to be optimistic here, but there's a real chance that the worst case scenario is staring us in the face. Here's hoping JB keeps getting better, because I don't think there's any QB's in this class that are anything close enough to justify a high pick- and we're going to have that pick. Barf. I have always labeled Brissett just a Great backup and maybe he could start for 3 or 4 bad teams but he may be better than that actually. I want to see how he plays in these last 7 games. The Steelers game will be a great measuring stick for him because they usually blow us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I have always labeled Brissett just a Great backup and maybe he could start for 3 or 4 bad teams but he may be better than that actually. I want to see how he plays in these last 7 games. The Steelers game will be a great measuring stick for him because they usually blow us out. The thing about a QB getting through his first year is normally they do get better their second. Hopefully we won't have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I have always labeled Brissett just a Great backup and maybe he could start for 3 or 4 bad teams but he may be better than that actually. I want to see how he plays in these last 7 games. The Steelers game will be a great measuring stick for him because they usually blow us out. I think you might want to start really evaluating his long term ceiling.. I don't think he's got top 5 in him, but I think he's top half of the NFL with experience and some help. Not what I want, but I think I'd stick with him as opposed to pull one these guys early in the draft. They all look shaky at best to me. Darnold is the only one who I think will be okay eventually and I doubt he'll be a polished player at any point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 The doctor in Germany, if that's where he is going, is very unconventional, but he apparently has good results. The track star Usain Bolt went there regularly. Lots of athletes like Kobe, already mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, IinD said: I feel exactly the same. I'm in the wth mind set. I don't know what to think or feel honestly. Are they trying this to see if it may accelerate things or because they have no other answers left and he's essentially broken in a football sense? I'd wager it's to try and regenerate the ancillary damage done from trying to play through the tear. Probably some funky stem cell stuff. Acceleration to determine where they're at sooner than later on the more surgery front is my 100% unofficial, I don't know anything, guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: I think you might want to start really evaluating his long term ceiling.. I don't think he's got top 5 in him, but I think he's top half of the NFL with experience and some help. Not what I want, but I think I'd stick with him as opposed to pull one these guys early in the draft. They all look shaky at best to me. Darnold is the only one who I think will be okay eventually and I doubt he'll be a polished player at any point. I think Luck will get healthy but I would definitely keep Brissett around for insurance because like I said at worse he's a Great backup. He eventually could even be a Good starter, not sure on that yet?? He has shown signs of playing good at times so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hum having had 3 surgeries, on my shoulders with this news I have to say this finally concerns me. He may just be looking at everything, but honestly if hes there hes concerned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Belichick did us a solid by trading us Brissett for Dorsett. I would rather watch paint dry than watch Tolzien play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyEric07 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hmmm...Now I wonder if Irsay/Ballard really did lie about Luck back when they signed Brissett! One of them quoted, "We have really big things planned for Brissett for the future." They must have known AL wouldnt be back for a long time. Read what you will into the quote, but just another Cornspiracy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, IndyEric07 said: Hmmm...Now I wonder if Irsay/Ballard really did lie about Luck back when they signed Brissett! One of them quoted, "We have really big things planned for Brissett for the future." They must have known AL wouldnt be back for a long time. Read what you will into the quote, but just another Cornspiracy!!! I don't think either lied, Irsay could've been going by what the doctors were saying or even maybe what Luck was saying in private regarding getting healthy. Nobody really knows for sure. We traded for Brissett because there was a chance Luck would miss the season and Tolzien just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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