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On January 21, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Hoosiernsavga said:

Please lord not a wr or rb in the first rd!!!!

Wr I get why not a Rb ?  By Rb I mean Elliot he's the only first rd back I would take. He's the best Rb in the nation there's nobody better . I hope and pray we get Elliot . You want to trust in an old beat up gore . No thanks  he didn't even have a 1000 yards rushing  terrible . Yea the line stinks there will be guys in the 3rd and 4th rd who can start on are right side of the line 

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7 hours ago, riftastic28 said:

Wr I get why not a Rb ?  By Rb I mean Elliot he's the only first rd back I would take. He's the best Rb in the nation there's nobody better . I hope and pray we get Elliot . You want to trust in an old beat up gore . No thanks  he didn't even have a 1000 yards rushing  terrible . Yea the line stinks there will be guys in the 3rd and 4th rd who can start on are right side of the line 

Don't get me wrong i like Elliot but we are not set up to draft a rb in the first rd. With the best four teams playing today in the playoffs, which one of these teams have a pro bowl or elite rb? Johnson (who is starting because of injuries) or maybe the old man Stewart are the best. And neither are great or would be anything without their OL. These teams got here because of DEFENSE and elite QB play. They all have solid OL'S. Even though NE has struggled as of late they have played very well this season. Too many holes on our roster to fill for a rb in the first rd.

If it is true that Pagano will be more the decision maker. I think he will be smart enough not to draft a skill position in the first couple rds. As far as Elliot he may be gone by the time we draft anyway. 

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While I am all for line help and could stomach a running back if they took one.  I think Jaylon Smith would be really interesting if he falls that far because of his injury.  While he wouldn't be able to help next year he would be a top five overall talent who could really help the pass rush in years to come.  I think they can get one more year out of Mathis to bridge the gap so if smith is there I would really look hard at him if I were running the Colts.

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It should be a defensive player in the front 7. Offensive line is not as bad as some make it out to be. Luck threw 40 TD's last year with the same o-line. The Broncos o-line is average. We need more play makers in the front 7. 

 

I wanted Kawann Short in the draft and knew he would be special. My top prospects in order is Leonard Floyd OLB, Reggie Ragland ILb, and Taylor Decker OT.

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Well obviously bust and boom players happen

Boom:

Marcus Peters CB (2015)

Corey Liguit DT (2011)

Maurkice Pouncey C(2010)

Average:

Calvin Pryor S (2014)

Eric Reid S (2013)

Joe Flacco QB (2008)

Melvin Ingram LB (2012)

Will Smith DE (2004)

Calvin Pace LB (2003)

Bust: 

Robert Ayers LB (2009) not that bad but not what we'd want

Leon Hall DB (2007) not that bad but not what we'd want

Bobby Carpenter LB (2006)

Erasmus James DE (2005)

TJ Duckett RB (2002)

Jeff Backus T (2001)

Chad Pennington QB (2000)

 

 

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9 hours ago, 12isthenew18 said:

Well obviously bust and boom players happen

Boom:

Marcus Peters CB (2015)

Corey Liguit DT (2011)

Maurkice Pouncey C(2010)

Average:

Calvin Pryor S (2014)

Eric Reid S (2013)

Joe Flacco QB (2008)

Melvin Ingram LB (2012)

Will Smith DE (2004)

Calvin Pace LB (2003)

Bust: 

Robert Ayers LB (2009) not that bad but not what we'd want

Leon Hall DB (2007) not that bad but not what we'd want

Bobby Carpenter LB (2006)

Erasmus James DE (2005)

TJ Duckett RB (2002)

Jeff Backus T (2001)

Chad Pennington QB (2000)

 

 

You get a franchise QB and win a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco and that is average? I would say it is well ahead of some number one and two picks. I also do not think Pennington was a bust. He played for a long time and was a decent starter until the injuries caught up with him.

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On 1/25/2016 at 11:24 PM, coltsfanatic24 said:

It should be a defensive player in the front 7. Offensive line is not as bad as some make it out to be. Luck threw 40 TD's last year with the same o-line. The Broncos o-line is average. We need more play makers in the front 7. 

 

I wanted Kawann Short in the draft and knew he would be special. My top prospects in order is Leonard Floyd OLB, Reggie Ragland ILb, and Taylor Decker OT.

Because it's a whole lot worse than some make it out to be bad.   No need to drop the stats again here (ad nauseum)

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13 hours ago, 12isthenew18 said:

Well obviously bust and boom players happen

Boom:

Marcus Peters CB (2015)

Corey Liguit DT (2011)

Maurkice Pouncey C(2010)

Average:

Calvin Pryor S (2014)

Eric Reid S (2013)

Joe Flacco QB (2008)

Melvin Ingram LB (2012)

Will Smith DE (2004)

Calvin Pace LB (2003)

Bust: 

Robert Ayers LB (2009) not that bad but not what we'd want

Leon Hall DB (2007) not that bad but not what we'd want

Bobby Carpenter LB (2006)

Erasmus James DE (2005)

TJ Duckett RB (2002)

Jeff Backus T (2001)

Chad Pennington QB (2000)

 

 

 

Pryor 

Flacco

Reid

Pace

Hall

You consider those guys average? :scratch:

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15 hours ago, 12isthenew18 said:

Well obviously bust and boom players happen

Boom:

Marcus Peters CB (2015)

Corey Liguit DT (2011)

Maurkice Pouncey C(2010)

Average:

Calvin Pryor S (2014)

Eric Reid S (2013)

Joe Flacco QB (2008)

Melvin Ingram LB (2012)

Will Smith DE (2004)

Calvin Pace LB (2003)

Bust: 

Robert Ayers LB (2009) not that bad but not what we'd want

Leon Hall DB (2007) not that bad but not what we'd want

Bobby Carpenter LB (2006)

Erasmus James DE (2005)

TJ Duckett RB (2002)

Jeff Backus T (2001)

Chad Pennington QB (2000)

 

 

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Who they pick First depends also on how they see their chances on some key lower round and undrafted players. I think a top defensive player would be good, simply because it is too high to reach for a G/C. They need to resolve in FA in getting a shut down corner to go with Vontae Davis. 

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On 1/21/2016 at 9:23 PM, Hoosiernsavga said:

Marcus Peters is awesome in KC. I hope we go the same and draft a cb to take over immediately for Toler.  That player IMO would be Alexander cb Clemson. 

Yeah I'm kinda thinking of him as a strong possibility at 18 right now. And I read a tweet earlier saying that he and Dodd were shining at Clemsons pro day.

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On 1/27/2016 at 11:11 PM, 12isthenew18 said:

Well obviously bust and boom players happen

Boom:

Marcus Peters CB (2015)

Corey Liguit DT (2011)

Maurkice Pouncey C(2010)

Average:

Calvin Pryor S (2014)

Eric Reid S (2013)

Joe Flacco QB (2008)

Melvin Ingram LB (2012)

Will Smith DE (2004)

Calvin Pace LB (2003)

Bust: 

Robert Ayers LB (2009) not that bad but not what we'd want

Leon Hall DB (2007) not that bad but not what we'd want

Bobby Carpenter LB (2006)

Erasmus James DE (2005)

TJ Duckett RB (2002)

Jeff Backus T (2001)

Chad Pennington QB (2000)

 

 

 

Leon Hall and Robert Ayers aren't busts.

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