Frank Gore - justified?

[oldunclemark]

I think he justified us signing him.

We wanted him for late in the year in big games..

 

He came though Sunday at Miami

[DougDew]

Yes.  He has been solid all year.

[aaron11]

stat wise he was meh, 3.6 ypc, 4 TDs, 3 lost fumbles.

 

but we needed a back and i'm not mad at all about him being here.  i was hoping we would also use a higher pick than we did on the a RB considering how much talent there was

[snkdy]

I really thought he'd get to 100 yards today.....

[oldunclemark]

3 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

stat wise he was meh, 3.6 ypc, 4 TDs, 3 lost fumbles.

 

but we needed a back and i'm not mad at all about him being here.  i was hoping we would also use a higher pick than we did on the a RB considering how much talent there was

But in a must win game today, he scored twice and broke some njce runs

He's at 900 or so...snd he replaced Trent..what were his averages?

 

we got him for the late games..must win games...he was there today

[Dustin]

Not really. He did the same thing he does basically every game which is start of well and then completely fall off in the 2nd half. Though it didn't help Khaled Holmes was blocking for him.

[Dustin]

I just looked at the splits and Gore averaged 2.9 YPC in the second half of games this season (not counting today)

[aaron11]

4 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

 

he replaced Trent..what were his averages?

 

 

not much worse than gores.  trent went 3.3 ypc, 3 TDs and one lost fumble

[NewColtsFan]

12 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

stat wise he was meh, 3.6 ypc, 4 TDs, 3 lost fumbles.

 

but we needed a back and i'm not mad at all about him being here.  i was hoping we would also use a higher pick than we did on the a RB considering how much talent there was

 

And he's earned EVERY YARD running behind the worst OL in football.

 

He's been justified since Day 1.

 

And after next week,  he'll be very close to 1,000 yards.

[NewColtsFan]

4 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I just looked at the splits and Gore averaged 2.9 YPC in the second half of games this season (not counting today)

 

For all of your trashing of him, when all is said and done, he's going to be near 1,000 yards, which is what all thought he'd have to do to be a good signing.     And he's done it mostly on his own running behind an OL that doesn't run block well and within an offensive system that hasn't been very well coordinated for much of the season.

 

[aaron11]

1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

And he's earned EVERY YARD running behind the worst OL in football.

 

He's been justified since Day 1.

 

And after next week,  he'll be very close to 1,000 yards.

we dont have the worst line, that just isnt true. the team we played today has a worse line than us

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

For all of your trashing of him, when all is said and done, he's going to be near 1,000 yards, which is what all thought he'd have to do to be a good signing.     And he's done it mostly on his own running behind an OL that doesn't run block well and within an offensive system that hasn't been very well coordinated for much of the season.

 

This is a situation that illustrates the problem with stats.  This year, the passing game as been way less efficient, and way less of a threat, than in past years.  Comparing YPC stats from year to year really shortcuts a completely fair analysis.

 

He passes the eye test to me.  He and Boom would have made a good tandem this year.

 

 

[Dustin]

7 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

For all of your trashing of him, when all is said and done, he's going to be near 1,000 yards, which is what all thought he'd have to do to be a good signing.     And he's done it mostly on his own running behind an OL that doesn't run block well and within an offensive system that hasn't been very well coordinated for much 

 

Volume ststats are meaningless. You don't need to pay millions of dollars for a back who's going to give you some of the worst YPC in the NFL.

[akcolt]

34 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

For all of your trashing of him, when all is said and done, he's going to be near 1,000 yards, which is what all thought he'd have to do to be a good signing.     And he's done it mostly on his own running behind an OL that doesn't run block well and within an offensive system that hasn't been very well coordinated for much of the season.

 

I would guess he lost 200 yards on penalties as well. It's a big number but I bet it is close. 

 

If we miss the playoffs by a game a couple of those fumbles going in to the end zone sting.

 

No Luck having Holmes at C then add in all the injuries to our OL not sure what everyone expected. I would love to see how many stacked boxes he faced again. That was the big thing they wouldn't be able to stack the box on him. I'm guessing with Matt at QB he saw a few. 

[Revala]

I like Gore. He's solid. We knew that coming in, we also know that he's not the future. In the off season we should be looking for the future.

[runthepost]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

And he's earned EVERY YARD running behind the worst OL in football.

 

He's been justified since Day 1.

 

And after next week,  he'll be very close to 1,000 yards.

The Dolphins have the worst OL lol

[runthepost]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

And he's earned EVERY YARD running behind the worst OL in football.

 

He's been justified since Day 1.

 

And after next week,  he'll be very close to 1,000 yards.

The Dolphins have the worst OL lol

[jmac_48]

18 minutes ago, runthepost said:

The Dolphins have the worst OL lol

That's like comparing Poop to Poop...

Guess it comes down to which is shinier.

[runthepost]

1 minute ago, jmac_48 said:

That's like comparing Poop to Poop...

Guess it comes down to which is shinier.

The last play of the game proved it

[aaron11]

3 minutes ago, runthepost said:

The last play of the game proved it

inexcusable on their part.  i really think they might have tanked.

 

coming off of a time out at home no less

 

 

[hawkeyes]

2 hours ago, aaron11 said:

stat wise he was meh, 3.6 ypc, 4 TDs, 3 lost fumbles.

 

IMO he has looked like the old man he is most of the season, but compared to what we have been used to the last half a dozen years that has been enough.  

 

Considering that - our run game is really sad!

[aaron11]

1 minute ago, hawkeyes said:

 

IMO he has looked like the old man he is most of the season, but compared to what we have been used to the last half a dozen years that has been enough.  

 

Considering that - our run game is really sad!

i always thought justified was a funny word, because it is in the eye of the beholder.  i wont say gore was not justified, but he wasnt that good either.

 

better than what we have had, but still not good enough

[BOTT]

Gore isn't real high on my list of problems when talking the colts

[cbear]

His stats do him a disservice.  Anyone think it might have been a wee bit better had Andrew been ok the entire year?  His running was pretty good imo. 

[NewColtsFan]

3 hours ago, aaron11 said:

we dont have the worst line, that just isnt true. the team we played today has a worse line than us

 

To paraphrase the immortal Bum Phillips,  if we aint the worst, well, then,  it sure don't talke long to call roll!!

 

[JColts72]

Gore has done as well as he can behind out lousy line.

[NewColtsFan]

3 hours ago, Dustin said:

 

Volume ststats are meaningless. You don't need to pay millions of dollars for a back who's going to give you some of the worst YPC in the NFL.

 

They're only meaningless when you want them to be meaningless.

 

Did we have a great pass blocking OL when Luck threw for nearly 5,000 yards?    Of course not.

 

Has any other RB run for nearly 1,000 yards for the Colts in the last 4 years?       Of course not.

 

Considering how bad our offense has been ALL SEASON,  Gore's effort has practically been heroic.

 

Why you don't know this is a complete mystery to me.......

[aaron11]

6 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

They're only meaningless when you want them to be meaningless.

 

Did we have a great pass blocking OL when Luck threw for nearly 5,000 yards?    Of course not.

 

Has any other RB run for nearly 1,000 yards for the Colts in the last 4 years?       Of course not.

 

Considering how bad our offense has been ALL SEASON,  Gore's effort has practically been heroic.

 

Why you don't know this is a complete mystery to me.......

gurley was a hero this year.  the rams dont even have a top 20 line, or passing game and he hit 1000 yards in 12 games.

 

gore was ok

 

i guess...

[DiogoZ]

45 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

gurley was a hero this year.  the rams dont even have a top 20 line, or passing game and he hit 1000 yards in 12 games.

 

gore was ok

 

i guess...

 

I don't know if you can compare a guy in his 30s with another back in his 20s. Gore has been in this league for a long time, I must say that he's been impressive if you think about his age, and the fact that he's been pratically working some magic behind this line...

[Superman]

4 hours ago, Dustin said:

 

Volume ststats are meaningless. You don't need to pay millions of dollars for a back who's going to give you some of the worst YPC in the NFL.

 

The Colts have a terrible offensive line and low level QBing. When the line was playing better and the QB was better (or at least more dangerous), Gore's YPC wasn't near the worst in the NFL. 

[VaAllDay757]

Just wished he could get a 1,000 yards he wasn't used enough earlier in the season which was stupid but oh well he's been a great player

[ReMeDy]

6 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

And he's earned EVERY YARD running behind the worst OL in football.

 

He's been justified since Day 1.

 

And after next week,  he'll be very close to 1,000 yards.

 

Pretty unbelievable Chris Johnson once ran for 2,000 yds in one season.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, ReMeDy said:

 

Pretty unbelievable Chris Johnson once ran for 2,000 yds in one season.

 

Yup....     that's 125 yards every week.

 

And back in the day,  went OJ went for 2000,  that was in a 14 game schedule.    If I remember the math properly,   that's about 143 every week.  

 

Pretty incredible!!

 

[NewColtsFan]

7 hours ago, aaron11 said:

we dont have the worst line, that just isnt true. the team we played today has a worse line than us

 

Geez.....    does it really matter?

 

If we only have the 30th worst line of the 28th worst line,  does it make a big difference?

 

We don't have a good o-line and the worst thing they do is run block.       Can we at least agree on that?!?

 

[SteelDragon]

Gore is my favorite Colt this year. Glad we hit on him and Langford in FA

[krunk]

16 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

For all of your trashing of him, when all is said and done, he's going to be near 1,000 yards, which is what all thought he'd have to do to be a good signing.     And he's done it mostly on his own running behind an OL that doesn't run block well and within an offensive system that hasn't been very well coordinated for much of the season.

 

 

He can be so ridiculous and arrogant sometimes! Who in the heck is going to be paying attention to the passing game with Charlie Whitehurst in the game?  Of course you're not getting anywhere when they are stacked up to negate the run.  Yeah tell me who is going to avg. 4 yards per carry against that?  The stat monster strikes again!  Blowing off steam

[krunk]

I wouldn't have a single problem with bringing Gore back next year. Especially if we can have a really good young back start in front of him in rotation.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Gore was a good pickup, I am for getting guys 25-27 years old usually because they usually have 3-5 years left in the tank but Gore is good. Andre not so much unfortunately.

[krunk]

I still main we could have gotten more out of Johnson, but it's certainly not a big necessity to bring him back so it is what it is I guess.

[ColtStronger]

17 hours ago, aaron11 said:

we dont have the worst line, that just isnt true. the team we played today has a worse line than us

Perhaps part of the reason why they were a big let down this year too?  I think most teams with bad OL just don't score a lot of points aka don't win football games!  Grigs should've figured this out by now...  He was an lineman but unfortunately not a very good one.  It's taken 4 years and a significant injuries to Luck for him to get a hint?