JH8788 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Our staff didn't necessarily do anything noteworthy to beat the Broncos, but their game plans were woefully uninspired on both sides of the ball.I never said they did, but everything I said in how/why we beat Denver was straight facts. After the 1st qtr, we outscored them 24-6. That's a strangle hold like I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Top of my head:Urban MeyerNick SabanMike Vrabel lolUrban Meyer would be interesting. What do you think of him? Mike Vrabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Urban Meyer would be interesting. What do you think of him? Mike Vrabel I don't really care for the guy, but his track record is pretty amazing.Damn Hardknocks, now I like two former Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grmasterb Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Urban Meyer would be interesting. What do you think of him? Mike Vrabel As an Ohio State fan, I think he's wonderful. I don't see why he would want to leave Columbus, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Nick Saban basically said over the weekend "if you have a franchise QB I might be interested in coaching your team." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 As an Ohio State fan, I think he's wonderful. I don't see why he would want to leave Columbus, though.Same reason other respected coaches leave for,the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I never said they did, but everything I said in how/why we beat Denver was straight facts. After the 1st qtr, we outscored them 24-6. That's a strangle hold like I said. That game got their coach fired. I think that says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Top of my head:Urban MeyerNick SabanMike Vrabel lolI do not think Irsay would pay the money the first two would demand and I doubt that he would consider anyone with a Patriot connection. Hiring another defense coordinator is most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I do not think Irsay would pay the money the first two would demand and I doubt that he would consider anyone with a Patriot connection. Hiring another defense coordinator is most likely.He has made few players the highest paid players at their position....what makes you think he would be cheap when hiring a coach? Or just throwing a out more garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I never said they did, but everything I said in how/why we beat Denver was straight facts. After the 1st qtr, we outscored them 24-6. That's a strangle hold like I said. Yeah. I know there's a lot of arguing around here, but I was agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsFan1976 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I tell you one thing, if the Colts season is not very good and either do not make the playoffs or lose in the first round, the only disconnect between the two will be who helps who pack up each other's house when they both get fired. This season is it for the both of them in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts8718 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I don't think anything would surprise us fans at this point.I never liked either one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 He has made few players the highest paid players at their position....what makes you think he would be cheap when hiring a coach? Or just throwing a out more garbage?He has not made a habit of hiring name coaches. Dungy was an exception. I don't have any problem with what he has done, it has worked for the most part. I was just commenting that I don't think bringing in a big name college coach is an option for Irsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/09/07/chuck-pagano-ryan-grigson-indianapolis-colts-rift-relationship-2015/71841016/It was Grigson's decision to change starting centers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH8788 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yeah. I know there's a lot of arguing around here, but I was agreeing with you. Oops my fault. Didn't mean to come at you sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH8788 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 That game got their coach fired. I think that says it all.That was their 2nd home 1 & done in the last 3 seasons. Somebody's head had to roll. What did you expect Elway to do? Cut bait with Peyton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/07/report-grigson-makes-decisions-against-paganos-wishes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathiltis Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This storyline was old a long time ago. Now it's just annoying. These writers need to grow up and if I read another comment on PFT I might lose whatever remaining faith I have in humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy1888 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/09/07/chuck-pagano-ryan-grigson-indianapolis-colts-rift-relationship-2015/71841016/It was Grigson's decision to change starting centers Phil Wilson said that last year when it happened. Looks like he was indeed correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nick Saban basically said over the weekend "if you have a franchise QB I might be interested in coaching your team."to the Colts he shall come (if we lay an egg this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 For anyone interested, Pagano and Grigson have both recently denied there being any rift between themhttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000524022/article/colts-ryan-grigson-chuck-pagano-deny-rift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/09/07/chuck-pagano-ryan-grigson-indianapolis-colts-rift-relationship-2015/71841016/It was Grigson's decision to change starting centers If that is true, then my opinion of Grigson has dropped somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 He has not made a habit of hiring name coaches. Dungy was an exception. I don't have any problem with what he has done, it has worked for the most part. I was just commenting that I don't think bringing in a big name college coach is an option for Irsay.Huh???Jim pretty much took over when Robert passed away. Since that time the coaches have been Mora, Dungy, Caldwell, & now Pagano, so no Dungy wasn't an exception....Mora was a very well known commodity, & Caldwell was promoted from within... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 If that is true, then my opinion of Grigson has dropped somewhat.Meh Shipley was not nearly as good as many on the forum made him out to be, He missed on multiple line calls(Which can be known by looking at how the defense lines up and how the O Line shifts to cover the defense overloaded to one side. Many times if they don't its because either the Center just did not see it. Also he missed on some late blitzes.). Harrison does have the bigger upside as well(stronger and just as mobile.)He has snapping issues and it don't matter what the line call is if you cant snap the ball I think Harrison should have continued to start and learn honestly, Growing pains would have been had and were being had but we all know Shipley is, A decent back up Center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Meh Shipley was not nearly as good as many on the forum made him out to be, He missed on multiple line calls(Which can be known by looking at how the defense lines up and how the O Line shifts to cover the defense overloaded to one side. Many times if they don't its because either the Center just did not see it. Also he missed on some late blitzes.). Harrison does have the bigger upside as well(stronger and just as mobile.)He has snapping issues and it don't matter what the line call is if you cant snap the ball I think Harrison should have continued to start and learn honestly, Growing pains would have been had and were being had but we all know Shipley is, A decent back up Center Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant if Grigson is forcing depth chart changes in general...not specifically to the Shipley/Harrison situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant if Grigson is forcing depth chart changes in general...not specifically to the Shipley/Harrison situation. To me its a case by case basis, Example: If Samson Satele was still on the team and we have Holmes on the roster and lets say Grigson wants Holmes to start but Pagano likes Satele starting then Im siding the Grigson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aReggie7 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) To me its a case by case basis, Example: If Samson Satele was still on the team and we have Holmes on the roster and lets say Grigson wants Holmes to start but Pagano likes Satele starting then Im siding the Grigson I understand your point but I don't think it is ever a good situation if your GM is micro managing your coaching staff like that. If Grigson feels the need to interject himself in coaching decisions such as this (on a regular basis) I think that is a bad sign. It means you have a GM who doesn't trust the coaching staff (which isn't good) or you have a coaching staff that can't be trusted. (not good either) I realize there are situations (like the theoretical one you described) where you want Grigson to step in and overrule the coaching staff. I don't think the ends justify the means though. With that said I don't know how much of this is true or to what extent. It is concerning though. Edited September 8, 2015 by 21isSuperman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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