PHI @ IND Post-game discussion: coaching and playcalling

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

He doesn't know what he's doing. Our coaching has us 0-2

[21isSuperman]

Please keep all coaching and playcalling discussion here

[OldSchoolColt]

The game was about Pep proving his run first style and not about winning. Luck hands off the ball better than any QB I know.

[The Old Crow]

All I can say if my team had Andrew Luck as a quarterback, I wouldn't be handing off to Trent Richardson ! Shocking loss.

[Flash7]

How do you stop Luck? Pep Hamilton.

[Nobody]

I'm not getting the hate for Pep, the run worked all game.

[twfish]

Im over him. He did a great job at first with diffrent plays but went back to his old self trying to force the same thing down there throats. The denver game he was incredibly predictable and last year we did what we did because of luck. This will more than likely be locked but im not talking about just this game. We have probably the best WR and TE duos in the league and there not used the way they should. Our running game did look good for once tonight but give the ball to luck when its under 5. The denver game should have been closer but terrible play calling ended us. The terrible starts all last year trying to run the ball should have lost US alot more games. It looks like Pep will be the weakest link in this offense.

[Nobody]

Coaching thread

[Solon]

People disrespected me the whole game for wanting Nicks to get the ball. I'm standing by what I said all today. Factor him in the gameplan. We have too much in #14 we're not using.

[John Waylon]

He just makes the same mistakes continually.

When we finally went deep to Hilton late in the game we had them on the ropes with our run game. They were selling out to stop out run. So when we bombed it to Hilton did we run play action to try and open him up?

Pfft.

[OffensivelyPC]

I'm tired of hopping from forum to forum.  We had a chance to put it away.  Yeah the refs made some bad calls.  We didn't make the plays when we needed to.  We lost this game ourselves. 

[austriancolt]

I'm not getting the hate for Pep, the run worked all game.

 

yes, run looked good but pass? not so much. still a lot of questionable calls and decisions, conservative calls, very predictable if you call three straight runs or pass plays, they mixed it up pretty bad.

[21isSuperman]

Coaching thread

That.

 

http://forums.colts.com/topic/31074-phi-ind-post-game-discussion-coaching-and-playcalling/

Closing

[Smurphy1]

pep was calling an ok game in the first half but completely failed to adjust in the second half and made classic pep % calls.

[Colts_Fan12]

I'm not getting the hate for Pep, the run worked all game.

He started out ok but the he goes back to being same stupid pep

[21isSuperman]

Let's take it over here, folks

http://forums.colts.com/topic/31074-phi-ind-post-game-discussion-coaching-and-playcalling/

[21isSuperman]

Pep's playcalling started out really well.  And it was pretty good for most of the game.  But 2 runs with Richardson in those last few mins......what?

[twfish]

Im over him. He did a great job at first with diffrent plays but went back to his old self trying to force the same thing down there throats. The denver game he was incredibly predictable and last year we did what we did because of luck. This will more than likely be locked but im not talking about just this game. We have probably the best WR and TE duos in the league and there not used the way they should. Our running game did look good for once tonight but give the ball to luck when its under 5. The denver game should have been closer but terrible play calling ended us. The terrible starts all last year trying to run the ball should have lost US alot more games. It looks like Pep will be the weakest link in this offense.

[OffensivelyPC]

Can we stop jumping from forum to forum?  Just let us talk.

[OffensivelyPC]

Can we stop jumping from forum to forum?  Just let us talk.

Actually...I'm done talking.  This game angers me too much.  Good night all.

[Colts_Fan12]

Can we stop jumping from forum to forum? Just let us talk.

I agree the moderators thought this would help but IMO it's a horrible idea

[Hank Reardon]

Pep blew this game. Throwing it when a FG wins it. Then takes the ball out of Luck's hands when they get it back. Both unbelievably stupid.

[GoColts8818]

Fire everyone.  There did I cover it for most fans? 

[Solon]

We didn't factor Fleener, Allen or Nicks at all in the passing game. How do we possibly expect to win with them not being involved? Come on now Pep.

[austriancolt]

Fire everyone.  There did I cover it for most fans? 

 

No need to fire everyone, but I hope we get a new OC after this season. Pep isn't convincing.

[twfish]

Oh my God I dont think ive ever been so * at one person after a game. Infuriated doesn't even come close. I could literally punch through a wall right now lol

[Tor]

NFL Network ‏@nflnetwork 25m

"Stick to the process. Come back in. Get back to the grind." -@Colts HC Chuck Pagano on 0-2 message to his team

 

 

And now it's confirmed that nothing is going to change.

[SLILLINGTON10]

that last offensive serious had me wondering what just happened. we hadn't stopped the eagles all game, it is all tied up and yup lets run the ball twice?!?!?!  followed by a terrible pass play. streak of not losing two games back to back is now broken.

[SLILLINGTON10]

NFL Network ‏@nflnetwork 25m

"Stick to the process. Come back in. Get back to the grind." -@Colts HC Chuck Pagano on 0-2 message to his team

 

 

And now it's confirmed that nothing is going to change.

i am really really starting to hate that quote from chuck, if the process worked we would have won. it is broken so fix it.... adjust and over come.

[Tor]

Stephen Holder ‏@HolderStephen 2m

Yes. Grilled Pagano abt it. He felt they were fine RT @colts5pacers: @HolderStephen anyone tall to pep or pagano about late play calling?

 

Here's another gem by Pagano

[Le Neon]

Hard to say whether it was Luck or playcalling, but the early success on the ground brought the safeties up and we rarely tested them or took advantage of them. Lots of favorable matchups wasted in the passing game.

[TKnight24]

Just waiting for Pep to get fired and for Chud to take over

[TKnight24]

Stephen Holder ‏@HolderStephen 2m

Yes. Grilled Pagano abt it. He felt they were fine RT @colts5pacers: @HolderStephen anyone tall to pep or pagano about late play calling?

Here's another gem by Pagano

Never can admit when they're wrong. Always "We played good but gotta do better"

No one believes that Jive

(Is jive allowed on the forum? )

[TKnight24]

NFL Network ‏@nflnetwork 25m

"Stick to the process. Come back in. Get back to the grind." -@Colts HC Chuck Pagano on 0-2 message to his team

And now it's confirmed that nothing is going to change.

0-16

#BookIt

[Derakynn]

I've defended the coaches the last two years but I really can't anymore. They make too many mistakes, and they make the same ones. You know what they say about insanity? I say that is the improper word. Stupidity and stubbornness is more like it. And with a rapidly evolving NFL, you can't be that way.

[corgi]

Never can admit when they're wrong. Always "We played good but gotta do better"

No one believes that Jive

(Is jive allowed on the forum? )

What he says to the media and what he says behind closed doors are different things completely. I'm sure Pep will have to explain his play calling to Pagano and co. It would please a lot of people if he said "Pep's play calling is just the drizzling poops" but that's not going to happen.

[TKnight24]

I've defended the coaches the last two years but I really can't anymore. They make too many mistakes, and they make the same ones. You know what they say about insanity? I say that is the improper word. Stupidity and stubbornness is more like it. And with a rapidly evolving NFL, you can't be that way.

Preach!!!

:clap:

[Warhorse]

we hadn't stopped the eagles all game

This removes validity from the rest of your argument in my eyes.

[GoColts8818]

i am really really starting to hate that quote from chuck, if the process worked we would have won. it is broken so fix it.... adjust and over come.

its really no different than when Dungy would say do what we do or what most coaches say during rough times. You hardly ever say a coach come out and say "whelp we messed this one up and we are going to blow up everything and start over." Colts were a play or two from winning tonight they need tweaks for sure but not drastic changes other the pass rush but that's a personal problem not a play calling problem.

[SLILLINGTON10]

its really no different than when Dungy would say do what we do or what most coaches say during rough times. You hardly ever say a coach come out and say "whelp we messed this one up and we are going to blow up everything and start over." Colts were a play or two from winning tonight they need tweaks for sure but not drastic changes other the pass rush but that's a personal problem not a play calling problem.

and hate it when coaches say that kind of stuff. i am not saying throw in the towel and blow up the team. Just admit we had some problems and there is stuff we need to iron out before next week. boom you acknowledged the problem and that you plan to make some adjustments so we can get a better result.

Didn't Enstein say "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"?  so what does that say about our process to this point?