SLILLINGTON10 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Were does he stand on our WR depth chart in your eyes? I would say he has worked himself into the number 2 spot over the past couple weeks. Brazil and Rogers have been okay but Griff seems to be balling out. I would even go as far as to say he is pushing for the number 1 spot, due to the fact that Luck seems to be going to him a lot more than Hilton right now (not sure if that is by design or TY's shoulder being worse than he is letting on). Thoughts? His he Collie 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I bet your question is answered here http://forums.colts.com/topic/24480-griff-stokely/page-2#entry686803 or here http://forums.colts.com/topic/24304-brazill-or-whalen/page-3#entry685388 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iancolts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Don't think griff the stiff would be number 1 WR on the depth chart I say he is probably 4th or 3rd at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Right now he is #2 or #3 Hilton #1Rogers #2a Whalen #2bBrazill #4DHB #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Hilton & Rogers > Whalen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 I bet your question is answered here http://forums.colts.com/topic/24480-griff-stokely/page-2#entry686803 or here http://forums.colts.com/topic/24304-brazill-or-whalen/page-3#entry685388I guess my question is more, is he just a gem we had to polish a little or does he have an inside track with pep and luck. Which is driving him up the depth cart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 Hilton & Rogers > Whalen.physical gifts yes, hands down Hilton and Rogers have him beat by a mile. However, play on field as of the last few weeks (his only real extended action) he has outplayed them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 physical gifts yes, hands down Hilton and Rogers have him beat by a mile. However, play on field as of the last few weeks (his only real extended action) he has outplayed them both.He had a good last game, but he only had like 40 yards the week prior. I like him in he slot, but if I'm forced to put only 2 receivers on the field, it's TY and Da'Rick all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 our depth chart is as follows: 1. T.Y. Hilton 2. Da'Rick Rogers 3. Griff Whalen 4. LaVon Brazill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 physical gifts yes, hands down Hilton and Rogers have him beat by a mile. However, play on field as of the last few weeks (his only real extended action) he has outplayed them both.he had a good game last week, he was good in punt return 2 weeks ago and decent as a receiver, he only had about 40 yards I believe. Rogers had 6 rec for 107 yards and 2 TD's against a very good Cincy defense, which is better than any game Whalen has had so far, I like Whalen, and think he will be a good slot guy for years to come, but he is not better than Rogers imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 He had a good last game, but he only had like 40 yards the week prior. I like him in he slot, but if I'm forced to put only 2 receivers on the field, it's TY and Da'Rick all day.he only had for catches that game against houston, with an avg over 11 yds a catch and the only wr with a td for the colts. But i think you are probably right about if you had to choose two WR because of TY and Rogers ability to take it to the house. However, on 3rd downs and longs I find myself trying to find number 17. He seems to be filling the Reggie Wayne role better than anyone else on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 he only had for catches that game against houston, with an avg over 11 yds a catch and the only wr with a td for the colts. But i think you are probably right about if you had to choose two WR because of TY and Rogers ability to take it to the house. However, on 3rd downs and longs I find myself trying to find number 17. He seems to be filling the Reggie Wayne role better than anyone else on our team.Its a good situation to have. Whalen and Rogers have been huge in stepping up and opening things up more for Hilton and Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I guess my question is more, is he just a gem we had to polish a little or does he have an inside track with pep and luck. Which is driving him up the depth cart? Inside track or not, he's producing. Other players got a chance before Griff and didn't produce. I think he's a hard worker who is finally getting his legs under him as a pro. End of the day, his production is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 he had a good game last week, he was good in punt return 2 weeks ago and decent as a receiver, he only had about 40 yards I believe. Rogers had 6 rec for 107 yards and 2 TD's against a very good Cincy defense, which is better than any game Whalen has had so far, I like Whalen, and think he will be a good slot guy for years to come, but he is not better than Rogers imoRogers against Hou only had two rec for 23 yds and against KC 4 rec for 42 yds. I am wasn't grading best game for each, I am looking for consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I see PEP looking at Matchups and simpllfying things for u know who by focusing on two receivers for u know who to look for first based on the coverage. Quick throws to his Primary is what works for Andrew. With practice practice practice and game experience together, and with just a LITTLE TIME to throw, we see our guys getting into the zones OPEN (say Halleluehuh) and our boy is improving finding that secondary target. Good stuff!JMO, but the DAY we start getting 4+ yards a carry on a high % of our rushes (NOT the occasional long one) we start grinding up D`s, and have a consistently effective, rested D of our own. FB Utopia! Griff looks like a very targetable piece to look for when the matchup is there. 1-2 in targets some weeks because of those hands, just as likely 3, 4th, 5th in receptions week to week. The exciting thing is with experience, TY, Rogers, FleenR, Allen, Brazzil have such nice upsides lining up the stars with Andrew.As that improves, it just makes Griffs ability to get into zones EASIER. Where Reggie is at in his career & a QB`s Dream. The Tip of Reliable Monster O has a high probability of being reached sometime next season and will be ascending thereafter. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Right now he is #2 or #3Hilton #1Rogers #2a Whalen #2bBrazill #4DHB #5 HiltonRogersWhalenBrazilFleenerD. BrownT. RichardsonMe YouThat other guy from that placeThen DHB...There you go... much better now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Rogers against Hou only had two rec for 23 yds and against KC 4 rec for 42 yds. I am wasn't grading best game for each, I am looking for consistency.Right now in the 2 games Whalen has played, he has had 45 rec yards, and 80 receiving yards and a TD. In the 3 games Rogers has played, he has had games of 107 yards, 23 yards, and 42 yards and 2 TD's. Whalen has not proved anything more than Da'Rick has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Right now in the 2 games Whalen has played, he has had 45 rec yards, and 80 receiving yards and a TD. In the 3 games Rogers has played, he has had games of 107 yards, 23 yards, and 42 yards and 2 TD's. Whalen has not proved anything more than Da'Rick haswhich is still amazing they've done more on three Games than dhb has done all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 HiltonRogersWhalenBrazilFleenerD. BrownT. RichardsonMeYouThat other guy from that placeThen DHB...There you go... much better nowyou forgot Jerrell Freeman and everyone else on the roster incuding Chapman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 you forgot Jerrell Freeman and everyone else on the roster incuding Chapman lmao @chapman... even Dongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Chapman dragging defenders down field for like 50 yards for the TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 In a perfect situation, there is a #1 option. That is not always the best receiver, but the one that the QB is most comfortable with. We had that in Reggie, and it was usually were Lucks eyes went when the ball was snapped. I don't think that we have a true #1, as Andrew is still getting his groove with everyone else. TY seems the most likely. As far as a #2 option, I don't think it is a player, but it is the #2 option for that play. And that can change every play. Ranking WR's is just something that fans do, not Luck or the coaches, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derakynn Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Hey now, Satele showed some nice hands on that one play. Too bad he only gained 0 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I'd say It's hilton, rogers, whalen. Next year is gonna be a big problem ( a good problem) in figuring out who we want on our roster. We will have wayne, hilton, rogers, whalen, brazill. I think we should start wayne, hilton, and rogers, and have whalen come in occasionally as a 3rd down receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Rogers against Hou only had two rec for 23 yds and against KC 4 rec for 42 yds. I am wasn't grading best game for each, I am looking for consistency. Don't look at boxscore only. Rogers is the one defenses pays more attention to, which frees up room for other receivers. He has been consistent, but I wont always translate to stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iancolts Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/randy-moss-thinks-could-come-retirement-score-15-181442579--nfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMDColtsfan Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I look at Griff the same as Donald Brown, don`t care where he`s ranked on depth chart or "the starter" just so long as he`s on the field more than not. They work hard at their craft and produce. Griff has better hands than I realized and that knack for getting yards after the catch. The sky is the limit for this guy, same as DB, as long as he is utilized. Pep, make it happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Can I take a moment to point out how much talent Brazill has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Luck We Trust Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 He had a good last game, but he only had like 40 yards the week prior. I like him in he slot, but if I'm forced to put only 2 receivers on the field, it's TY and Da'Rick all day.okay rogers had one 100+ yard game and his last two games 23 and 42 yards. don't think you have much of an argument to say who is better. the only thing rogers has on whalen is size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Griff Whalen is the starting slot WR. Will be in 3 WR sets anyways so Rogers, T.Y, and Whalen are all starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 okay rogers had one 100+ yard game and his last two games 23 and 42 yards. don't think you have much of an argument to say who is better. the only thing rogers has on whalen is size. And speed(DaRick). ... whalen may have the best hands on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 TYRodgersWhalen I'd put Rodgers above Whalen because I think he has a higher ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Luck We Trust Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 And speed(DaRick). ... whalen may have the best hands on the teamI will take hands over speed any day of the week. just look at DHB, has great speed but no hands what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveeoaktree33 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I don't know if anyone agrees, but I forsee Whalen getting more looks this week vs. the Pats. With them surely keying on TY and possibly Fleener, we'll need a 3rd down possession receiver to go to. The kid just seems to make catches and will probably not have much defensive focus on him. I'd trust him on 3rd downs over Rogers and Brazil as his shorter height lets him "sneak" into space especially on blitz route breakoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draztik Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's a tough one to decide on. He has some good hands and has shown he can get YAC. He doesn't have the speed or size of Da'Rick though and Brazil shows some flashes of what he can become. I think the main thing he has going for him as well is the comfort level with Luck. Andrew trusts him and I think he can be that 3rd sometimes 2nd option to pick up first downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I don't know if anyone agrees, but I forsee Whalen getting more looks this week vs. the Pats. With them surely keying on TY and possibly Fleener, we'll need a 3rd down possession receiver to go to. The kid just seems to make catches and will probably not have much defensive focus on him. I'd trust him on 3rd downs over Rogers and Brazil as his shorter height lets him "sneak" into space especially on blitz route breakoffs.me too, as you can see i have been an advocate for Whalen since he got here. All he does is catch the ball!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveeoaktree33 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's a tough one to decide on. He has some good hands and has shown he can get YAC. He doesn't have the speed or size of Da'Rick though and Brazil shows some flashes of what he can become. I think the main thing he has going for him as well is the comfort level with Luck. Andrew trusts him and I think he can be that 3rd sometimes 2nd option to pick up first downs. me too, as you can see i have been an advocate for Whalen since he got here. All he does is catch the ball!!Griff as the slot guy in games that are either weather-laden or heavy blitzing teams seems smart to me. That trust that they have in each other could be huge when it's needed. He's not afraid to go across the middle either.( Although it's not as difficult these days) Let's hope that coach(es) put a few plays in for him in those crucial 3rd down situations that BB may not have planned for.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Were does he stand on our WR depth chart in your eyes? I would say he has worked himself into the number 2 spot over the past couple weeks. Brazil and Rogers have been okay but Griff seems to be balling out. I would even go as far as to say he is pushing for the number 1 spot, due to the fact that Luck seems to be going to him a lot more than Hilton right now (not sure if that is by design or TY's shoulder being worse than he is letting on). Thoughts? His he Collie 2.0?Your crazy, Griff is a nice little guy but he is a 3/4 guy at best. He does have chemistry with Luck I think he is a slot guy really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 People keep comparing Whalen to Collie. I get it, But I think Whalen will be a much better receiver than Collie. Hilton Rogers Whalen Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Were does he stand on our WR depth chart in your eyes? I would say he has worked himself into the number 2 spot over the past couple weeks. Brazil and Rogers have been okay but Griff seems to be balling out. I would even go as far as to say he is pushing for the number 1 spot, due to the fact that Luck seems to be going to him a lot more than Hilton right now (not sure if that is by design or TY's shoulder being worse than he is letting on). Thoughts? His he Collie 2.0? LOL! I was going to respond quite differently to your opinion on Griff being #1. Then I saw your original date of post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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