Anyone interested to know what we were offered for Luck last year during the draft?

[Dustin]

https://twitter.com/Softykjr/status/380832241615527936

 

Last year, MH (then w/ Browns) offered to trade his ENTIRE 2012 draft to Indianapolis for the #1 overall pick (to take Andrew Luck).

 

Thought this was interesting.

[dudeski]

i heard a team did that

 

never heard what team

[Cynjin]

Not enough.

[James]

Glad we didn't do it. 

[Dustin]

For anyone interested we would have had:

 

• Round 1 Pick 3
• Round 1 Pick 22
• Round 2 Pick 2
• Round 2 Pick 5
• Round 3 Pick 1
• Round 3 Pick 24
• Round 3 Pick 29
• Round 4 Pick 5
• Round 5 Pick 1
• Round 5 Pick 25

 

And a few 6-7th rounders. Glad we didn't take it. 

[BlueShoe]

https://twitter.com/Softykjr/status/380832241615527936

 

Last year, MH (then w/ Browns) offered to trade his ENTIRE 2012 draft to Indianapolis for the #1 overall pick (to take Andrew Luck).

 

Thought this was interesting.

 

I am sure it was more than that from other teams. Probably 3 firsts, 3 seconds, and 3 thirds. 

[Dustin]

I am sure it was more than that from other teams. Probably 3 firsts, 3 seconds, and 3 thirds. 

 

Agreed. This seems kind of light, but I saw it on twitter and thought it was interesting. 

[arkana04]

That's a hell of a lot of picks but it's not worth is we are set at QB for the next 15 years. 

[BlueShoe]

Agreed. This seems kind of light, but I saw it on twitter and thought it was interesting. 

 

Probably light because they had the 3rd pick.

[Zachris]

For anyone interested we would have had:

 

• Round 1 Pick 3
• Round 1 Pick 22
• Round 2 Pick 2
• Round 2 Pick 5
• Round 3 Pick 1
• Round 3 Pick 24
• Round 3 Pick 29
• Round 4 Pick 5
• Round 5 Pick 1
• Round 5 Pick 25

 

And a few 6-7th rounders. Glad we didn't take it. 

 

Don't get me wrong, but if this is true, this would have been worth it.  Yes, I am glad we didn't take it, but it would have been worth it.

[mo0nlighting]

Devil's Advocate:  If we're looking at this with hindsight, could you argue that we should have taken it, and drafted Russell Wilson in the second round?

 

(I'm a Luck fan, I'm just throwing this out there for a conversational piece)

[The Colonel]

That's pretty crazy to think about.. but we made the right call. This team is close.. very close. Defense has the talent there, a few weak spots but the talent is there for the most part. We just have to get our pass rush up to par because we are going to be scoring A LOT of points!

[Hans Moleman]

I'm not regretting the way things are turning out for us by any stretch, but I'm not gonna lie, having that kind of haul with another few years of Peyton would've been flat out nasty. 

[Hans Moleman]

Devil's Advocate:  If we're looking at this with hindsight, could you argue that we should have taken it, and drafted Russell Wilson in the second round?

 

(I'm a Luck fan, I'm just throwing this out there for a conversational piece)

 

Apparently we were eyeing him in the 3rd- I'd have to think with an extra early 3rd rounder, we'd have snagged him.

[dw49]

Don't get me wrong, but if this is true, this would have been worth it.  Yes, I am glad we didn't take it, but it would have been worth it.

 

Although pick 3 is worth a lot , that offer is still short of the 3 number1's and 1 no 2 the Rams got for the spot below us. I think that looks to be a monster haul as Gavin adds our picks to the offer.

[21isSuperman]

• Round 1 Pick 3 - Trent Richardson, Matt Kalil, Mark Barron, Dontari Poe
• Round 1 Pick 22 - David DeCastro, Harrison Smith, Dont'a Hightower
• Round 2 Pick 2 - Colts original pick (took Fleener), Courtney Upshaw available
• Round 2 Pick 5 - Bobby Wagner, Janoris Jenkins, Alshon Jeffry
• Round 3 Pick 1 - Colts pick (took Dwayne Allen), Russell Wilson available
• Round 3 Pick 24 - T.Y. Hilton, Lamar Miller
• Round 3 Pick 29 - Colts original pick (took T.Y. Hilton)
• Round 4 Pick 5 - Kirk Cousins, Robert Turbin

Who we could have taken with those picks.  I'm still very happy we didn't do it because I'm a huge Luck fan and we are set at the most important position for 15 years or so.  But it's fun to think about.

[dw49]

i heard a team did that

 

never heard what team

 

If you mean which team traded their whole draft for a player it was the bears for the spot below Edge to draft Ricky Wlliams. They traded their whole 1999 draft (1 pick in every round but the 2nd ) and their 1st and 3rd in the 2000 draft.

[LightninMax]

The bottom line is we could have rebuilt the team around Peyton and been a Super Bowl contender for the rest of his career AND put the pieces in place to continue after he was gone.  

 

Now we have a rebuilding time that is gonna be a struggle and we are not yet a Super Bowl contender.  

 

Fifteen years of Luck is a low percentage at this point.

 

Look around the league for the past 30 years and you'll find that rebuilding isn't all its cracked up to be.  But, when you have the rare once in a lifetime opportunity to have a special player such as Unitas or Manning you make it for all its worth for as long as you possibly can!  

 

It's a shame that there are so many Manning haters out there that we can't even mention his name in relation to a team that he brought respect to after it was lost for over 25years.

[Goodtimes]

https://twitter.com/Softykjr/status/380832241615527936

 

Last year, MH (then w/ Browns) offered to trade his ENTIRE 2012 draft to Indianapolis for the #1 overall pick (to take Andrew Luck).

 

Thought this was interesting.

 

Sold. By now we would be a real Super Bowl contender not a faux contender.

Edited September 20, 2013 by Superman

[Goodtimes]

The bottom line is we could have rebuilt the team around Peyton and been a Super Bowl contender for the rest of his career AND put the pieces in place to continue after he was gone.  

 

Now we have a rebuilding time that is gonna be a struggle and we are not yet a Super Bowl contender.  

 

Fifteen years of Luck is a low percentage at this point.

 

Look around the league for the past 30 years and you'll find that rebuilding isn't all its cracked up to be.  But, when you have the rare once in a lifetime opportunity to have a special player such as Unitas or Manning you make it for all its worth for as long as you possibly can!  

 

It's a shame that there are so many Manning haters out there that we can't even mention his name in relation to a team that he brought respect to after it was lost for over 25years.

 

Amen.

Edited September 20, 2013 by Superman

[Goodtimes]

If you mean which team traded their whole draft for a player it was the bears for the spot below Edge to draft Ricky Wlliams. They traded their whole 1999 draft (1 pick in every round but the 2nd ) and their 1st and 3rd in the 2000 draft.

 

I wasn't the Bears. It was New Orleans.

Edited September 20, 2013 by Superman

[Goodtimes]

That's pretty crazy to think about.. but we made the right call. This team is close.. very close. Defense has the talent there, a few weak spots but the talent is there for the most part. We just have to get our pass rush up to par because we are going to be scoring A LOT of points!

 

Bwa, ha, ha...... We are YEARS away....Cancel

Edited September 20, 2013 by Superman

[Goodtimes]

Devil's Advocate:  If we're looking at this with hindsight, could you argue that we should have taken it, and drafted Russell Wilson in the second round?

 

(I'm a Luck fan, I'm just throwing this out there for a conversational piece)

 

Sold!!

Edited September 20, 2013 by Superman

[Goodtimes]

i heard a team did that

 

never heard what team

 

It was New Orleans for Ricky Williams.

Edited September 20, 2013 by Superman

[mo0nlighting]

10 out of 10 times I would have released Peyton and drafted Luck. Even with hindsight, and seeing what Peyton's doing this year, just because of the possibility of 10-15 years versus a possible 4, maybe 5.  

[House]

The bottom line is we could have rebuilt the team around Peyton and been a Super Bowl contender for the rest of his career AND put the pieces in place to continue after he was gone.

Now we have a rebuilding time that is gonna be a struggle and we are not yet a Super Bowl contender.

Fifteen years of Luck is a low percentage at this point.

Look around the league for the past 30 years and you'll find that rebuilding isn't all its cracked up to be. But, when you have the rare once in a lifetime opportunity to have a special player such as Unitas or Manning you make it for all its worth for as long as you possibly can!

It's a shame that there are so many Manning haters out there that we can't even mention his name in relation to a team that he brought respect to after it was lost for over 25years.

This post seems oddly familiar.......

[jbaron04]

For anyone interested we would have had:

 

• Round 1 Pick 3
• Round 1 Pick 22
• Round 2 Pick 2
• Round 2 Pick 5
• Round 3 Pick 1
• Round 3 Pick 24
• Round 3 Pick 29
• Round 4 Pick 5
• Round 5 Pick 1
• Round 5 Pick 25

 

And a few 6-7th rounders. Glad we didn't take it. 

so the question is in hindsight would u take russell wilson and all them picks ? for luck

[Dustin]

so the question is in hindsight would u take russell wilson and all them picks ? for luck

 

Tough question.

 

Is the difference between Luck and Wilson really that great that you would pass up on like 5 high round picks?

 

In hindsight, I'd still take Luck. We have no idea how Wilson would have fared here.

[dw49]

Tough question.

 

Is the difference between Luck and Wilson really that great that you would pass up on like 5 high round picks?

 

In hindsight, I'd still take Luck. We have no idea how Wilson would have fared here.

 

 

No doubt Wilson is a nice QB but he's always going to be somewhat hindered by height . I think Luck is more capable of putting a team on his back and carrying it. We saw some of this last year . Wilson on the other hand is playing for a team with a great running game and fabulous defense , so he doesn't have to do as much.

[buccolts]

Wait, so you're telling me we could have had Trent Richardson?

[Ohio Colt]

wouldn't have done it for TWO entire drafts.

[Dustin]

Wait, so you're telling me we could have had Trent Richardson?

 

[tony1287]

If you mean which team traded their whole draft for a player it was the bears for the spot below Edge to draft Ricky Wlliams. They traded their whole 1999 draft (1 pick in every round but the 2nd ) and their 1st and 3rd in the 2000 draft.

The saints drafted ricky williams..

[jvan1973]

If you mean which team traded their whole draft for a player it was the bears for the spot below Edge to draft Ricky Wlliams. They traded their whole 1999 draft (1 pick in every round but the 2nd ) and their 1st and 3rd in the 2000 draft.

Da coach was Ditka, but the team was the saints

[coltsfanatic24]

We would have kept Peyton and drafted Matt Kalil, still wouldn't be enough.

[Indy005]

Tempting, and knowing Grigson he wouldve hit on majority of those picks.

 

Hmmm

[dw49]

Da coach was Ditka, but the team was the saints

 

 

LOL .. just was going to post that I made that mistake. Was looking at what each team ended up with and saw the Bears had a big haul.  Naturally it was obvious I screwed up. Anyway.. Washington traded a lot of that haul to the Bears to move up and draftChamp Bailey.

[dw49]

The saints drafted ricky williams..

 

 

Yep.. I guess I just associated Ditka with the Bears too quickly

[Ja'Crispy]

You mean we could have had Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden!?!?!?!? Why did we pass on that!? Oh, what? We have Richardson and Luck? I'll take it, I guess.

[tony1287]

Yep.. I guess I just associated Ditka with the Bears too quickly

Not hard to do