Werner

[NDcolt]

You better run SON not jog come on the QB is in your end zone lets hustle after him your giving up on the play don't JOG!

[Gavin]

You better run SON not jog come on the QB is in your end zone lets hustle after him your giving up on the play don't JOG!

That was 1 of the knocks on him coming out, sometimes his motor would run cold

[NDcolt]

Elite QBs will tear us up with ALL day to throw! Is it we just aren't showing anything in pre season??

[House]

This need it's own thread?

[Hans Moleman]

I missed that play but thought Werner looked good getting pressure today. Between him and Caesar, I feel much better about our pass rush outside of Mathis.

[Blackhawk4]

The threads being created this season....Le sigh...

[BronxColtNYC]

The threads being created this season....Le sigh...

Touche

[James]

This is thread worthy? 

[snotknockind]

This is thread worthy? 

It is worthy.  The guy did the same thing in college and was called out on it.  He was not hustling on the play in question....jogging after QB.  I am sure it will show up on film and be addressed.

[Smonroe]

Elite QBs will tear us up with ALL day to throw! Is it we just aren't showing anything in pre season??

Except for Peyton, which elite QBs are we going to face?

[cbear]

Honestly, I was thinking the same thing.  But I give him a pass, as that was the first time I saw him maybe not go full tilt.  Definitely not worthy of it's own thread, but whatever......

[House]

This is thread worthy?

Nah. You could pick out one play from anyone and call them out if you were motivated.

[throwing BBZ]

I have Zero problem with that rookies motor. He will get fewer snaps than he got tonight and has missed some conditioning haters. I am very impressed, we hit the jackpot with him.

[pacolts56]

Except for Peyton, which elite QBs are we going to face?

Alex Smith....the best QB in all the land!

 

Haven't you heard?

[GoColts8818]

Except for Peyton, which elite QBs are we going to face?

I wouldn't call them elite but Wilson, Kaepernick, Schaub, Dalton and Rivers are pretty good. 

 

Also Palmer and Smith can be pretty good if you don't put pressure on them. 

 

Also being in the AFC to get to where we want to go we are going to have to play an elite QB rather it's Manning, Brady, Big Ben, or Flacco at some point. 

[Stephen]

Flacco isn't elite and big ben is good but not elite. Manning Brady Brees Rodgers and maybe Ryan are the only ones I consider elite. If Flacco played how he played in playoffs during reg season he would finish with 44 tds and be elite.

[BronxColtNYC]

Flacco isn't elite and big ben is good but not elite. Manning Brady Brees Rodgers and maybe Ryan are the only ones I consider elite. If Flacco played how he played in playoffs during reg season he would finish with 44 tds and be elite.

You forgot Sanchez

[esmort]

I have Zero problem with that rookies motor. He will get fewer snaps than he got tonight and has missed some conditioning haters. I am very impressed, we hit the jackpot with him.

 

He gave up on plenty of plays in college so questioning him potentially giving up on a play is not unreasonable. He has shown some potential/flashes, but nothing even close to being worthy of being proclaimed a "jackpot". 

[Gavin]

He gave up on plenty of plays in college so questioning him potentially giving up on a play is not unreasonable. He has shown some potential/flashes, but nothing even close to being worthy of being proclaimed a "jackpot". 

He is a rookie, the potential is there, most players dont come into the league fully developed, He has to work on strength and building his stamina back up. He will get there if he stays healthy

[esmort]

He is a rookie, the potential is there, most players dont come into the league fully developed, He has to work on strength and building his stamina back up. He will get there if he stays healthy

 

I agree, I said he has shown potential, and regaining his strength and stamina may in fact be the reason he has not shown more.... but my point was he has in no way did anything (yet) worthy of being proclaimed a draft "jackpot", and I seen him give up on enough plays in college that I am not willing to just give him a pass on those type plays just yet.

[Ja'Crispy]

Alex Smith....the best QB in all the land!

Haven't you heard?

Nice try Chiefs OC

[Smonroe]

I wouldn't call them elite but Wilson, Kaepernick, Schaub, Dalton and Rivers are pretty good. 

 

Also Palmer and Smith can be pretty good if you don't put pressure on them. 

 

Also being in the AFC to get to where we want to go we are going to have to play an elite QB rather it's Manning, Brady, Big Ben, or Flacco at some point. 

 

All (or most) pretty good.  But we agree none of them are elite.

 

The poster said that an elite QB will pick us apart, presumably because we have no pass rush.  It's really a matter of microseconds.  Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers, require heavy pressure and very good coverage in order to stop.  That second tier group, a little less of either.

 

I think we'll be fine with our combination of great coverage and fair pressure.

[GoColts8818]

All (or most) pretty good.  But we agree none of them are elite.

 

The poster said that an elite QB will pick us apart, presumably because we have no pass rush.  It's really a matter of microseconds.  Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers, require heavy pressure and very good coverage in order to stop.  That second tier group, a little less of either.

 

I think we'll be fine with our combination of great coverage and fair pressure.

Rather those QBs are elite or not and rather the poster is only concerned about elite QBs or not isn't going to change the fact we still struggle with a pass rush and most of those QBs I listed above can pick us a part if we can't get a pass rush on them and look elite even if they aren't. 

 

Coverage only holds up for so long even if you have a really good secondary.  If you can't get to the QB will just hold the ball till it breaks down some place. 

 

Now with that said I think Ceaser will help with the pass rush as well Werner and of course we have Mathis.  I also think the Colts haven't shown all their blitz packages during the pre-season.  So I think we'll find a way to put pleasure on the QB.  That's the bigger concern, can we get to the QB even if the QBs we are playing this year aren't the best of the best except for Peyton. 

[Jason_]

Rather those QBs are elite or not and rather the poster is only concerned about elite QBs or not isn't going to change the fact we still struggle with a pass rush and most of those QBs I listed above can pick us a part if we can't get a pass rush on them and look elite even if they aren't.

Coverage only holds up for so long even if you have a really good secondary. If you can't get to the QB will just hold the ball till it breaks down some place.

Now with that said I think Ceaser will help with the pass rush as well Werner and of course we have Mathis. I also think the Colts haven't shown all their blitz packages during the pre-season. So I think we'll find a way to put pleasure on the QB. That's the bigger concern, can we get to the QB even if the QBs we are playing this year aren't the best of the best except for Peyton.

I can't decide on just one so:

 

I guess it really HAS become a qb driven league!

 

Does this mean I'm going to have to order Showtime or Cinemax to be able to keep watching NFL games?

 

If that happens then I think we need to take a serious look at our defensive coaching philosophy.

 

So that's how we're going to go about wearing out the opposing QB's?

 

ok, I'll let someone else have a turn. Lol

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Ugh "Condescending Thread Police"

[lollygagger8]

I thought Werner did alright. I also think Rayford should be getting some first team snaps!