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Gary Trent Jr I think is being underrated. He is a deadly 3pt shooter....didn’t see much of the ball because of Bagley Carter and Allen. Him or Diop here?

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8 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I’m not a big Marcus Smart fan...but I thought you liked him Mark...we can’t sign him if we took on a big contract before Young’s cap hold is released (until he signs elsewhere). Another reason we might be holding onto cap space. Anyways I’m happy with who we got. 

There's no guarantee we keep Bogdonavich or now, Collison.

WE have team options on them right?

 

Fans have to understand that we cant return the same team. We badly need shooting...and we can take on any deal for a year or two...if it improves us

You dont like Bazemore..OK..but we will add a vet. We have to..and we cant worry about short term bucks..

We have Vic locked up for 3 years...we cant do nothing

    Here's Atlanta's pick at 30..

Lets see what happens

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Of course we won’t bring back the same team...and I agree that Collison is too similar to our new draft pick. So I do think he might be moved. Young or Sumner maybe as well. I like Bogs...but would prefer him off the bench getting like 20-22 minutes. I think the 3 is a position we target to upgrade for sure.

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Have a good night...I’m not staying up for pick 50 who may not even make the team...or at least probably G league.

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I'd like to see the Pacers trade up here early in the second round and get Gary Trent Jr or Keita Bates-Diop.

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21 minutes ago, ar7 said:

I'd like to see the Pacers trade up here early in the second round and get Gary Trent Jr or Keita Bates-Diop.

I agree...I wanted Diop in the first round.

To get Holliday and Diop would be a big night.

 

Maybe we can move up

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3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

  MInnesota took our guy Kieta Bates Diop..at 48...    Thibedeau.. grabbed him

Who's left?

Shake?

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wow..Alize Johnson...6-foot-9 forward..  (I missed the pick..ESPN again went to commecial when our pick came up)

 

This is a project..He's 22 now and He's grown 11 inches since he entered high school

Officially 6-foot-8, 207......15 points,    11 rebounds a game at Missouri State.

Not a 3-shooter..entered college as a guard..and  handles the ball OK but seems very 'right=-handed'

 

Who knows?  But we need small forwards. We dont have many

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21 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

wow..Alize Johnson...6-foot-9 forward..  (I missed the pick..ESPN again went to commecial when our pick came up)

 

This is a project..He's 22 now and He's grown 11 inches since he entered high school

Officially 6-foot-8, 217......15 points,    11 rebounds a game at Missouri State.

Not a 3-shooter..entered college as a guard..and  handles the ball well..

 

Who knows?  But we need small forwards. We dont have many

So a tad bit bias here (I go to MSU currently so I saw him up close)

 

Good guy, hard worker. Was top player for our team both years after Juco due to not qualifying for D1 out of high school. Won newcomer in 2016-17 Was Preseason player of year for MVC. Was pretty much only player you could count on to play. If he had a bad game team got blown out. Offense had to go through him to work at all. So teams ended up doubling and triple teaming him most of season. Coaching was bad. Lusk was fired after season. They were projected as MVC winners ended up 7. He has some more growing and beefing up to do. Was not F like you said until College really. Has good handling skills. He is gonna go out there and out fight everyone. Again best player for MSU but was all over. With Having a PG that can do something could shine. Can spot up to shoot. Not likely ever a starter, but could be a good bench player. Working with a guy like Oladipo and seeing how he goes about everything could perform very well as a backup. At 50 that is not a bad thing. If he continues to master his body with his size could do a bit better

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Holiday is a solid pick and will be a Great backup to Collison in 2019, he will start in 2020. Our Guard play should be in the Elite area in 2019 with Dipo, Collison, Joseph, and now Holiday (Lance will be a nice backup to Bogey at SF). That is pretty good depth. I don't know much about Alize Johnson but he did average 15 Points and 11 Boards for Missouri State last season. He also is 6'9 so could shine as a SF?

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3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Holiday is a solid pick and will be a Great backup to Collison in 2019, he will start in 2020. Our Guard play should be in the Elite area in 2019 with Dipo, Collison, Joseph, and now Holiday (Lance will be a nice backup to Bogey at SF). That is pretty good depth. I don't know much about Alize Johnson but he did average 15 Points and 11 Boards for Missouri State last season. He also is 6'9 so could shine as a SF?

I guess what we havent talked about is: Both Collison and Cory Joseph have contracts that end after next season...

Shapes up like we're keeping the guard line together for another year and then letting Cory or DC go.

 

Also,,Collison missed almost a month with a knee injury and he's almost 31...

Holiday should be good offensively and defensively....he ls just small...like Darren is...

 

Lets see Johnson in the summer league ......

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The draft also suggests that we still believe in Glenn Robinson...

...because barring undrafted free agent pickups..we still have Glenn backing up Bogdonavich...right?

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2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

I guess what we havent talked about is: Both Collison and Cory Joseph have contracts that end after next season...

Shapes up like we're keeping the guard line together for another year and then letting Cory or DC go.

 

Also,,Collison missed almost a month with a knee injury and he's almost 31...

Holiday should be good offensively and defensively....he ls just small...like Darren is...

 

Lets see Johnson in the summer league ......

Johnson is who I really want to see in the Summer League. One reason why I will watch it. He has me curious. A 6'9 SF that can Rebound sounds decent to me.

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Johnson is who I really want to see in the Summer League. One reason why I will watch it. He has me curious. A 6'9 SF that can Rebound sounds decent to me.

Rebounding is his thing..from the video...  Lets see how many he grabs in the Summer League..

...He does run the floor.....and his highllights suggest he shoots better than the numbers say

 

WE may not bring Al Jefferson or Trevor Booker back....and we were outrebounded last season....

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Holiday was a great pick. I do wonder what happens to either Joseph or Collison. Can't imagine the Pacers will keep Collison/Holiday/Joseph. One of those other 2 is probably going to be gone.

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I don't know much about Holiday, but this seems like a good pick to me.  Seems to me like a better Joe Young.  I like the pick

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2 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

Holiday was a great pick. I do wonder what happens to either Joseph or Collison. Can't imagine the Pacers will keep Collison/Holiday/Joseph. One of those other 2 is probably going to be gone.

They already said they want all of them back next year. Collison gives you a good person for him to learn from and after next year you then have him hopefully becoming a starter.

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4 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

 

 

The draft also suggests that we still believe in Glenn Robinson...

...because barring undrafted free agent pickups..we still have Glenn backing up Bogdonavich...right?

GR3 is a free agent so we would have to re-sign him if we wanted him back. I could still see us trying to upgrade the SF spot before we attempt to bring Glenn back.

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actually, thats my point.

We had our first chance Thursday night to 'upgrade the small forward spot'

We did not feel the need to.

Money is pbviously not an issue with signing Glenn. If we have to back up the truck to pay him it will be a very small truck. A tonka toy.

 

 

Our management has always said they believe Glenn will be a very good player.

 .....not drafting a small forward suggests that we still believe that.

 

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