Colts offseason discussion / Ballard Grievances (merge)

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, w87r said:

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

We are down to Blackmon and Moore.  

Just now, richard pallo said:

Three left to go.

Who is the third. I have Blackmon and Kenny.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

We are down to Blackmon and Moore.  

And Moss, Rigo, and outside chance of Gardner (I doubt it)

[Superman]

These decisions are incredibly 'meh' to me.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

We are down to Blackmon and Moore.  

Yep. I think we sign Moore and let Blackmon go and either sign a cheaper S or draft one next month,

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

And Moss, Rigo, and outside chance of Gardner (I doubt it)

Yeah rigo is important but not too worried that won’t get done. Unless there is someone in the draft. Apparently there is an Iowa punter that is really good. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Yoshinator said:

Yep. I think we sign Moore and let Blackmon go and either sign a cheaper S or draft one next month,

I am re-signing Kenny, no brainer to me.

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Funny today has been active for colts but with their own players. 

Could very well be that these guys wanted to see what the open market showed and when it didn’t come in as they hoped they signed their offers with the Colts.

[richard pallo]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

We are down to Blackmon and Moore.  

Rigo.  He’s the holder on field goals too. 

[w87r]

Just now, Superman said:

These decisions are incredibly 'meh' to me.

Yeah, ready for some new blood news

[cbear]

Stewart deal kind of cheap no? 

[richard pallo]

Just now, cbear said:

Stewart deal kind of cheap no? 

About right I would say.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Yeah rigo is important but not too worried that won’t get done. Unless there is someone in the draft. Apparently there is an Iowa punter that is really good. 

Yeah I could see them going either way on Rigo.  Let’s not forget Ballard spent big on a kicker last year.  I wouldn’t even rule out a free agent punter if Ballard likes one more.  I just listed the guys I could see the Colts bringing back beyond Moore and Blackmon.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

That Grover deal will help the cap. He got a raise but 3 years should lower his cap hit.

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am re-signing Kenny, no brainer to me.

Yep. He's a solid nickel corner. Hope to keep him so we aren't desperate to go CB in the draft.

[richard pallo]

1 minute ago, w87r said:

Yeah, ready for some new blood news

Yeah.  We need some upgrades now.

[DoubleE Colt]

I'm fine with resignings but they just helped us reach mediocrity this year......I want some signings that will improve us. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, cbear said:

Stewart deal kind of cheap no? 

I think he was at ten million per year before. So a slight raise. 
 

These extensions shouldn’t affect the cap much. Because they are extensions and not new signings.

[cbear]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Funny today has been active for colts but with their own players. 

All good though. May not be as exciting as getting the shiny new player, but they are all important. Moore next please. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Woop there it is

 

 

Of course. Kenny is next.

[IndyEV]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Yeah I could see them going either way on Rigo.  Let’s not forget Ballard spent big on a kicker last year.  I wouldn’t even rule out a free agent punter if Ballard likes one more.  I just listed the guys I could see the Colts bringing back beyond Moore and Blackmon.

We could go get the Iowa Punt God early in the draft!

[w87r]

Simple rules this time of the year.

 

 

Chloe post, I click.

[PeterBowman]

I'm thinking they could be really in on Snead so we'll see. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, IndyEV said:

We could still draft the Iowa Punt God early in the draft!

Then there would be no reason to sign rigo.

[richard pallo]

Just now, PeterBowman said:

I'm thinking they could be really in on Snead so we'll see. 

I was thinking the same thing.  A 3rd and a 5th.

[cbear]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I think he was at ten million per year before. So a slight raise. 
 

These extensions shouldn’t affect the cap much. Because they are extensions and not new signings.

That's what I thought. Almost the same money per year. Thought he could have gotten more, but I'm not complaining! 

[Superman]

1 minute ago, w87r said:

Yeah, ready for some new blood news

 

It's not just that for me. I think the Colts had an opportunity to recalibrate the roster, to reassign cap to more valuable positions, etc. But we're giving more money to a non-pass rush DL (who is now in his 30s, btw), a limited LB, etc. It's like we're leaning into the same roster/cap configuration that has kept us below the top tier teams in the league.

 

I'd be fine with not signing top tier guys, I never expected that anyway. But would rather have kept the powder dry than continue to pay non premium guys.

[chad72]

2 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

Yep. He's a solid nickel corner. Hope to keep him so we aren't desperate to go CB in the draft.

 

He is more than solid, bro. He is top in the entire league as a slot CB, if I am not mistaken.

 

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/11/17/23965039/colts-kenny-moore-ii-ranked-as-nfl-next-gen-stats-best-graded-slot-cornerback

 

[adubb84]

😆
 

Hoping for some “fireworks” soon! Maybe?….

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That Grover deal will help the cap. He got a raise but 3 years should lower his cap hit.

 

Lower than zero? He was a free agent, he had no cap hit.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, w87r said:

Simple rules this time of the year.

 

 

Chloe post, I click.

Yeah, I may be Howard Stern (in my dreams sarcasm), but when she posts it is over. She is the best in the business this time of year 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Superman said:

 

Lower than zero? He was a free agent, he had no cap hit.

That’s true. Didn’t think of it that way

[w87r]

My estimation on how much cap we have used today and how much we have left.

 

Franklin + $3m

Pittman - $5m

Lewis + $5m

Stewart + $10m

 

$18m off the cap.

 

So sitting about $31-$35m currently in my estimate.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That’s true. Didn’t think of it that way

In reality all these guys were FA so you were right and I was wrong.

[Yoshinator]

2 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

He is more than solid, bro. He is top in the entire league as a slot CB, if I am not mistaken.

 

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/11/17/23965039/colts-kenny-moore-ii-ranked-as-nfl-next-gen-stats-best-graded-slot-cornerback

 

Ok, definitely hope we keep him now.

[chad72]

Both Steelers and Cowboys could go after Kenny Moore, there is an excellent market for top notch slot CBs.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

If it was true colts were offering Kenny too Slot money he should be back.

[chad72]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If it was true colts were offering Kenny top Slot money he should be back.

 

There are only so many coins you can put in for slot money.   j/k

[cbear]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

It's not just that for me. I think the Colts had an opportunity to recalibrate the roster, to reassign cap to more valuable positions, etc. But we're giving more money to a non-pass rush DL (who is now in his 30s, btw), a limited LB, etc. It's like we're leaning into the same roster/cap configuration that has kept us below the top tier teams in the league.

 

I'd be fine with not signing top tier guys, I never expected that anyway. But would rather have kept the powder dry than continue to pay non premium guys.

We'd still need to replace them though. Do you think we overpaid for Stewart and Franklin? 

[ArmchairQB]

19 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Autry signed with Texans. I think that’s funny he keeps going around the AFCS.

I think it’s pathetic that we let him go and didn’t even sniff bringing him back.