2023: Week 10 Colts vs Patriots in Germany, November 12, 2023, 9:30 EST

[bluebombers87]

Just now, Solid84 said:

... right now.

Sorry not gonna anything on a hope or a dream. Maybe Minshew will get better. Maybe Franklin will.

[RollerColt]

Huge 3rd down coming up. Absolutely have to make this stop.

[AKB]

1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

If he's no where near the play odds are it's not his play to make...

here's a simple way of putting it, you've got Alvin Kamara 1on1 for a tackle, who u taking Leonard or Franklin? 

[Dingus McGirt]

Pass rush has vanished.  

[TheEdgeis1]

STOP THEM!!

[HOZER]

1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

Leonard -- Snaps: 406, Missed tackles: 4

 

Franklin -- Snaps: 565, Missed tackles: 13

 

Normalise Leornard's snaps to 565 and he'd have 5.57 missed tackles... it's not even in the same league...

“Normalize” lol That’s a 159 snap difference. If Leonard played those snaps the way we’ve been seeing him play he would have 100 missed tackles. Not to mention most of his “tackles” are after the runner/receiver has gained 7+ yards

[ADnum1]

Defense playing their hearts out but they're gassed

[richard pallo]

If Gus’s defensive play calling comes gives up a touchdown he should be shown the door.

[colts52761]

blitz this play

 

[MB-ColtsFan]

They closed the roof.

[AKB]

1 minute ago, HOZER said:

“Normalize” lol That’s a 159 snap difference. If Leonard played those snaps the way we’ve been seeing him play he would have 100 missed tackles. Not to mention most of his “tackles” are after the runner/receiver has gained 7+ yards

my point exactly, he is rarely first, and solo. he's coming in and cleaning up tackles after the runner has been slowed or made their first move already 

[coming on strong]

Just now, richard pallo said:

If Gus’s defensive play calling comes gives up a touchdown he should be shown the door.

i never understood the love fest with bradly  his defense stinks it got worse when flus left .     bradly got lucky he had so  much talent on the seahawks .  

[HOZER]

4 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said:

Maybe it’s cuz Leonard isn’t even trying to tackle.

This

[Lancer1]

Just now, richard pallo said:

If Gus’s defensive play calling comes gives up a touchdown he should be shown the door.

He won't though, and he shouldn't  - defense has kept us in the lead despite the offense totally going to sleep after the 1st drive.

[RollerColt]

Ugh… 

[Chrisaaron1023]

That 2nd down play was too good

[JColts72]

So aggravating 

[bluebombers87]

Oh big shock, defense craps the bed again.

[MB-ColtsFan]

FULL TAKEDOWN NOT CALLED1!!

[Solid84]

Just now, AKB said:

well that's not what i mean. 

 

Franklin is faster, and gets to the ball faster. 

 

so if he gets there first, or if leonard is not attempting first contact as often, those stats mean nothing

I know it's not, but you're looking for ways to assign blame to Leonard and I think people are being unreasonable about it.

 

Franklin is playing the position Leonard is best at. Week 8 against the Saints, Leonard played most of his snaps at Mike (his best position in Bradley's scheme) and he had 13 tackles...

 

You can't compare their play when they are pboth on the field, because they are playing different positions with different assignments.

 

I know Leonard is getting paid $100m and he's not worth it RIGHT NOW (and he may not be again), but 1) pay is not going to let him break the laws of reality,  2) it's his first season in the scheme and 3) he's playing out of position. How about we look at this the way it is instead of just trying to pin crap on him...

[chad72]

4 down territory 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Colts just getting bullied.

[JColts72]

Power run 

[Shive]

Pats lost the LT they called up from their PS, so they're scraping the bottom of their roster for LT. I just wish we would be able to take advantage of that.

[w87r]

1 minute ago, HOZER said:

“Normalize” lol That’s a 159 snap difference. If Leonard played those snaps the way we’ve been seeing him play he would have 100 missed tackles. Not to mention most of his “tackles” are after the runner/receiver has gained 7+ yards

Shaq has as many tackles for a loss as Franklin does this year in the snap differential.

[RollerColt]

[Chrisaaron1023]

Knew we needed a TD not a FG.. pats getting 7 here

[chad72]

That’s why they can run on 3rd down because of 4th down territory 

[NFLfan]

The Patriots are using up all the time on the clock.

[Solid84]

4 minutes ago, AKB said:

here's a simple way of putting it, you've got Alvin Kamara 1on1 for a tackle, who u taking Leonard or Franklin? 

You mean the Kamara that WORKED Franklin in the Saints game?

[richard pallo]

Touchdown coming here.  Who is confident Minschew can win us the game?

[AKB]

Just now, Solid84 said:

I know it's not, but you're looking for ways to assign blame to Leonard and I think people are being unreasonable about it.

 

Franklin is playing the position Leonard is best at. Week 8 against the Saints, Leonard played most of his snaps at Mike (his best position in Bradley's scheme) and he had 13 tackles...

 

You can't compare their play when they are pboth on the field, because they are playing different positions with different assignments.

 

I know Leonard is getting paid $100m and he's not worth it RIGHT NOW (and he may not be again), but 1) pay is not going to let him break the laws of reality,  2) it's his first season in the scheme and 3) he's playing out of position. How about we look at this the way it is instead of just trying to pin crap on him...

their jobs are slightly different, but its the closest ur gonna get when comparing positions, like FS to SS

 

here's the reality solid, Leonard looks bad. He visibly looks different. He's one of my favorite Colts but I can't lie man he looks overpaid, slow, and hesitant, and seems to be avoiding contact. 

[Old Man and the COLTS]

There was no one in the  d line in the middle

[RollerColt]

INTERCEPTION BLACKMON!!!!!

[Solid84]

Blackmon INT!!!

[Old Man and the COLTS]

Caught that one BLACKMON

[JColts72]

That was a Jones Mush 

[colts52761]

yes!

[RollerColt]

[Shive]

Just now, Old Man and the COLTS said:

There was no one in the  d line in the middle

Franklin would have been, but he was being held really badly.