"Landing spot"

[AKB]

I've been seeing a lot of NFL talking heads speaking about possible landing spots for FA and trade bait. What is beginning to frustrate me is that the colts are never mentioned. I know what Ballard said. I've seen every press conference. Please don't fill this thread with Ballard quotes. I guess I'm just tired of the media short changing the colts. 

[The Peytonator]

Ballard probably just doesn’t want to give up draft picks for expensive, aging, coming off an injury type players. We want to get younger. If we were a Richard Sherman away from making a championship run he’d probably be more likely to make that move. 

[Matabix]

LT mentioned good spot for Hyde is with Colts.

Also heard Pugh to colts, and of course Hitchens. Watkins also but Ravens was mentioned for him as well. And a OG not named Norwell, can't remember the name but it begins with T.

[NewColtsFan]

I don't know which media you think are not mentioning the Colts but I see us mentioned often enough...

 

Besides....   either way, it doesn't matter.

 

These predictions have no impact -- zero -- on the real world.    Ballard will do what he's going to do and we will all analyze that for the rest of the off-season..

 

[csmopar]

17 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

I've been seeing a lot of NFL talking heads speaking about possible landing spots for FA and trade bait. What is beginning to frustrate me is that the colts are never mentioned. I know what Ballard said. I've seen every press conference. Please don't fill this thread with Ballard quotes. I guess I'm just tired of the media short changing the colts. 

We've been mentioned a lot 

[PrincetonTiger]

Are you from Indiana?

   Because this happens to every Indiana based team

[lollygagger8]

13 hours ago, Matabix said:

LT mentioned good spot for Hyde is with Colts.

Also heard Pugh to colts, and of course Hitchens. Watkins also but Ravens was mentioned for him as well. And a OG not named Norwell, can't remember the name but it begins with T.

 

I hope not! 

 

Gore is better than Hyde, and I'd rather have Crowell from the Browns since they are probably picking Barkley. 

[DaColts85]

15 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

I hope not! 

 

Gore is better than Hyde, and I'd rather have Crowell from the Browns since they are probably picking Barkley. 

You immediately compare Gore and Hyde and then mention wanting Crowell??  That is hilarious.  I would take Hyde over Crowell all day but I would hold off the comparisons to a HoF'er in Gore.  We know Gore is better, trust me the stats tell the story.

[aaron11]

55 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

Gore is better than Hyde, and I'd rather have Crowell from the Browns since they are probably picking Barkley. 

they need to go darnold or rosen at #1, otherwise both could be gone by #4.  allen, mayfield and jackson need the right teams and schemes to be successful 

 

im not saying the colts will take one at three, i think somebody like the jets or broncos would love to trade up for rosen and they are only 2 and 3 picks behind us.  the browns cant let that happen when they have the first pick 

[lollygagger8]

1 hour ago, DaColts85 said:

You immediately compare Gore and Hyde and then mention wanting Crowell??  That is hilarious.  I would take Hyde over Crowell all day but I would hold off the comparisons to a HoF'er in Gore.  We know Gore is better, trust me the stats tell the story.

 

What's "hilarious" is you spouting off stats telling the story, and then providing none. 

 

Not that I care for PFF but here you go: "No running back gave up more than Hyde's 13 pressures in pass protection, and he also finished with the worst drop rate in the league at 13.2 percent. 

 

• Isiah Crowell RB, 62.8 overall grade
• Carlos Hyde, RB, 51.6 overall grade

This is from 2016, but still impressive

 

 

Again, I'd rather have Gore and Turbin, but Crowell is better than Hyde. 

[lollygagger8]

57 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

they need to go darnold or rosen at #1, otherwise both could be gone by #4.  allen, mayfield and jackson need the right teams and schemes to be successful 

 

im not saying the colts will take one at three, i think somebody like the jets or broncos would love to trade up for rosen and they are only 2 and 3 picks behind us.  the browns cant let that happen when they have the first pick 

 

If Browns don't take Barkley, I think Giants will. 

[jameszeigler834]

10 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

What's "hilarious" is you spouting off stats telling the story, and then providing none. 

 

Not that I care for PFF but here you go: "No running back gave up more than Hyde's 13 pressures in pass protection, and he also finished with the worst drop rate in the league at 13.2 percent. 

 

• Isiah Crowell RB, 62.8 overall grade
• Carlos Hyde, RB, 51.6 overall grade

This is from 2016, but still impressive

 

 

Again, I'd rather have Gore and Turbin, but Crowell is better than Hyde. 

Ya hyde is also injury prone but the one knock I have on Crowell is he is fumble prone.

[lollygagger8]

15 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Ya hyde is also injury prone but the one knock I have on Crowell is he is fumble prone.

 

Definitely don't need another fumble prone player if that's the case. Matt Jones has that position locked down. 

[DaColts85]

29 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

What's "hilarious" is you spouting off stats telling the story, and then providing none. 

 

Not that I care for PFF but here you go: "No running back gave up more than Hyde's 13 pressures in pass protection, and he also finished with the worst drop rate in the league at 13.2 percent. 

 

• Isiah Crowell RB, 62.8 overall grade
• Carlos Hyde, RB, 51.6 overall grade

This is from 2016, but still impressive

 

 

Again, I'd rather have Gore and Turbin, but Crowell is better than Hyde. 

What hilarious is you clearly not reading my post and spoting off stats on two players I do not care about.  I mentioned Gore and "HIS" stats.  Since you wanted to compare him and Hyde, saying Hyde is not as good.  That is like saying Mack is not as good as Gore...we get it, one is a future HoF'er.

[lollygagger8]

38 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

What hilarious is you clearly not reading my post and spoting off stats on two players I do not care about.  I mentioned Gore and "HIS" stats.  Since you wanted to compare him and Hyde, saying Hyde is not as good.  That is like saying Mack is not as good as Gore...we get it, one is a future HoF'er.

 

Calm down little buddy. 

 

[DaColts85]

1 hour ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

Calm down little buddy. 

 

Sorry terrible comments and comparisons get laughed at.  not trying to hurt your feelers.

[lollygagger8]

1 hour ago, DaColts85 said:

Sorry terrible comments and comparisons get laughed at.  not trying to hurt your feelers.

[chad72]

4 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

If Browns don't take Barkley, I think Giants will. 

 

The NFC East does not look forward to that with Barkley inside and OBJ outside plus OL additions in FA, all those make a lot of sense for the Giants making a push for a SB during Eli's home stretch.

 

Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph in round 2 might be someone they may look at.

[Deadpool]

5 hours ago, aaron11 said:

they need to go darnold or rosen at #1, otherwise both could be gone by #4.  allen, mayfield and jackson need the right teams and schemes to be successful 

 

im not saying the colts will take one at three, i think somebody like the jets or broncos would love to trade up for rosen and they are only 2 and 3 picks behind us.  the browns cant let that happen when they have the first pick 

Cleveland will more than likely go Barkley at # 1 seeing that they can still grab a QB at #4. Rosen is probably going to go to the Giants according to some "experts" predictions but I honestly think Barkley and Chubb go 1 and 2. Which would leave the Colts in a very good situation at # 3. They could trade for a kings ransom drop down to either 4,5 or 6 who ever really wants Darnold or Allen more. More than likely if Denver and the Jets are trying to move up then Cleveland will talk. Take nothing less than Clevelands 1st rounder this year, next year and a 2nd rounder in this years draft.....

 

Trade back with the Jets or Broncos, who ever wants the next available QB (darnold or Allen, given who the browns take).....Take their first rounder this year and next year, and their 2nd rounder this year and give them the 4th overall pick and a 4th rounder in this years draft. Draft Nelson, go into the second round with 3 very early picks and end draft week with 3 possible first rounders in next years draft. 

 

annnnnnnnnnd, Now I wake up. 

[IndyScribe]

There have been links. Hitchens, for example. I know Butler and a couple other guys have also been predicted to sign with us. As for trades, Ballard doesn't want to give up a pick.

[jameszeigler834]

4 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

Definitely don't need another fumble prone player if that's the case. Matt Jones has that position locked down. 

Jones has a bit of a fumble problem too and he is slow.

[dw49]

21 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

I don't know which media you think are not mentioning the Colts but I see us mentioned often enough...

 

Besides....   either way, it doesn't matter.

 

These predictions have no impact -- zero -- on the real world.    Ballard will do what he's going to do and we will all analyze that for the rest of the off-season..

 

 

If I remember correctly ,those predictions were not even on the same planet as to what transpired last year in free agency.

[TheRustonRifle#7]

6 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

Definitely don't need another fumble prone player if that's the case. Matt Jones has that position locked down. 

 

[Peterk2011]

3 hours ago, Deadpool said:

Cleveland will more than likely go Barkley at # 1 seeing that they can still grab a QB at #4. [.......]

 

Trade back with the Jets or Broncos, who ever wants the next available QB (darnold or Allen, given who the browns take).....Take their first rounder this year and next year, and their 2nd rounder this year and give them the 4th overall pick and a 4th rounder in this years draft. Draft Nelson, go into the second round with 3 very early picks and end draft week with 3 possible first rounders in next years draft. 

 

There's more than zero chance that the Browns will indeed go non QB with their #1 - they are the Browns after all - but more than likely? Naaah... They will take their QB at #1 this year. More than likely.

 

Btw, you are way off with the trade down prices my friend. When it comes to trading draft picks, teams usually quite closely follow the draft value chart, which means, trading down with the Broncos from 3 to 5 would cost the Broncos cca their 1/5 and 2/8 (a bit more, maybe add an extra 6th). No next year 1st rounder or anything near to that. Trading down with the Jets would give the Colts their 1/6, 2/5 and cca their 4th rounder. Where it becomes pricey is somewhere around the 10th overall pick. If lets say the Dolphins decide to draft Tannehill's successor, that would start with their 2018 and 2019 first rounder, and some. 

[AKB]

 Every thread becometh a draft discussion. 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

23 hours ago, aaron11 said:

they need to go darnold or rosen at #1, otherwise both could be gone by #4. 

 

I wouldn’t rule out Cleveland taking Barkley at 1 then trying to trade up from 4 to 3 to ensure they get their QB as well.

[IndyScribe]

14 hours ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

There's more than zero chance that the Browns will indeed go non QB with their #1 - they are the Browns after all - but more than likely? Naaah... They will take their QB at #1 this year. More than likely.

 

Btw, you are way off with the trade down prices my friend. When it comes to trading draft picks, teams usually quite closely follow the draft value chart, which means, trading down with the Broncos from 3 to 5 would cost the Broncos cca their 1/5 and 2/8 (a bit more, maybe add an extra 6th). No next year 1st rounder or anything near to that. Trading down with the Jets would give the Colts their 1/6, 2/5 and cca their 4th rounder. Where it becomes pricey is somewhere around the 10th overall pick. If lets say the Dolphins decide to draft Tannehill's successor, that would start with their 2018 and 2019 first rounder, and some. 

Depends on if they value all QBs equally. If they do, they'll still have someone they like at #4.

[IndyScribe]

On 3/8/2018 at 8:54 AM, aaron11 said:

they need to go darnold or rosen at #1, otherwise both could be gone by #4.  allen, mayfield and jackson need the right teams and schemes to be successful 

 

im not saying the colts will take one at three, i think somebody like the jets or broncos would love to trade up for rosen and they are only 2 and 3 picks behind us.  the browns cant let that happen when they have the first pick 

That's the best move for them but my guess is they gamble and either pick up one at #4, or pick up Mayfield/Allen.

[aaron11]

10 minutes ago, IndyScribe said:

That's the best move for them but my guess is they gamble and either pick up one at #4, or pick up Mayfield/Allen.

those two could be good, but i think they need the right team to be successful and that isnt the browns

 

darnold and rosen would be a lot safer for them imo

[chrisfarley]

On 3/8/2018 at 7:59 AM, lollygagger8 said:

 

I hope not! 

 

Gore is better than Hyde, and I'd rather have Crowell from the Browns since they are probably picking Barkley. 

they are the Browns, yes , they will take Barkley and then gamble on the QB at 4.  no one wants to go to the browns because of the organization in general, the cold - wind - and misery there.  So just like every year, the Browns will fumble the ball and choose Barkley (yes he's probably going to be great), but it's the Browns, so he will only be good there.  And again, the ball gets away and the Browns will be the Browns.

[Defjamz26]

On 3/7/2018 at 6:36 PM, AustinnKaine said:

I've been seeing a lot of NFL talking heads speaking about possible landing spots for FA and trade bait. What is beginning to frustrate me is that the colts are never mentioned. I know what Ballard said. I've seen every press conference. Please don't fill this thread with Ballard quotes. I guess I'm just tired of the media short changing the colts. 

I think you need to accept the fact that 1) Ballard is not and will not be a big spender in FA, and 2) The Colts aren’t some sort of hot bed for FAs. The Colts aren’t ever going to be the team throwing cash at all the big marquee FA names. That’s a good thing though.